due Dec 08-the one were we are so brain dead we can't think of a thread title.

[Veggiemummy]

hey there will this be the last one do you think

Hi all, haven't read the thread but will do so & catch up.

kmp as your post was at the top thought I'd reply to you first! I doubt you've done anything dangerous or too rough. Hiccups are normal, just keep an eye on the movements and see your midwife if anything seems wrong. Re weight loss, I can't estimate how much I lost after birth but all the weight I put on was on my bump which meant that after birth I could just about fit into my pre-pregnancy clothes. I know I've put more on this time so don't think I'll be able to do the same.

Hello girls

Sorry if I miss anything important - I have been rushing around again today and my brain has turned to trifle -

Hey, thanks for the compliment, Turnip! I am never averse to those though I feel like a big, soggy, sack of you-know-what...

Arti - a big yes to the period-style pains. My bump seems to have dropped noticeably, after being somewhere round my clavicle for aeons, so maybe it IS just the baby's head engaging, though she is supposed to be transverse (I'm off to the FMC for a scan tomorrow afternoon so we'll see). Sometimes I torture myself and say these pains have suddenly started because she is going to arrive super early, but don't listen to me as I don't know what I am on about. Seeing the obs on Monday morning, so I'll ask her for all of us.

Verso - that sort of disappointment is SOOOO sickening and hard to take. You poor thing. I think you need to get some straight answers from them but however homicidal you feel, you also need to keep your dignity (hard I know, as I would probably lose it). I know one of the best employment lawyers in London if you want his details (that's not me bragging about how fab my mates are, he's ranked), HOWEVER, I'm not sure whether by just encouraging you and praising you to the heavens they have technically done anything wrong in the eyes of the law, as it were - the key will be if they have discriminated against you due to your pregnancy, which may be hard to prove. Let us know what transpires. In the meantime...I know it's horrible for you....but TRY not to let it eat you up.

Beans, your GP is a muppet. I have put on 3 stones with a month to go, and although I hate it, I have hardly been caning it on the food front. NICOLE KIDMAN put on 1.5 stones (according to a magazine so it must be true ) and she looked like a toothpick even a week before the baby was born.

Ooh, Effie, I hope they have made a mistake. Are you SURE you can't get there before that? Oh dear.

Trace, Emma and all those suffering today, Dr Thompson (very hypocritically I might add) prescribes LOTS.OF.REST. Hope things are ok...

My right rib cage really hurts again. WHAT IS THIS CHILD DOING? I swear she is wearing stilettoes.

Thanks LadyT, it isn't actually an issue until you go into labour but I want to know now . Good luck for the scan

effie just seen your post about the group b strep. This website is really useful and has loads of information about gbs in pregnancy & labour. Sorry if I'm telling you something you already know!

Evening,

I hope everyone is ok. I haven't really read through.

Been shopping all day for stuff for the house. I feel pretty awful now. I've done loads of walking around and baby feels quite low but very very wriggly.

My sure start grant is being paid in tomorrow so I can get my pushchair.

hi all - kpm don't worry - the baby is super cushioned in there, I have DS literally leaping on my bump all day and all seems to be well!

Beans I think your GP is talking rubbish!!! You lose loads in labour and afterwards just from fluid. BTW no-one told me about the horrific nightsweats you get after giving birth - all the fluid you retain in pregnancy literally comes out of your pores in the night. Some people don't seem to suffer it much but I know from talking to friends it wasn't just me! I think I must have lost at least a stone just through soaking the sheets. I think the only good reason to weigh you regularly in the last trimester is to keep an eye on pre-eclampsia - really sudden weight gain can be a symptom.

Ladyt - I have the sore ribs too! If it gets really painful get it checked out though - right rib pain can be a symptom of something or other - HELLP I think.

kmp impossible to predict how much weight you'll lose straight away - for example arti lost an impressive 3 stone (19 kilos) and I lost a depressing 10lb (4.5 kilos). I suppose it depends a lot on how much of your weight gain is fluid and how much is bona fide flab. Also impressed by rosmerta fitting into her pre-preg clothes after the birth - I was in maternity clothes for many many months.

On the bump-bashing front, I'd try not to worry too much - as has been said, they're pretty protected in there. I think you only need to worry if you have some kind of serious impact. My friend who is a couple of weeks further on than me had a car accident a few weeks ago (somebody went into the back of her) and was fine - they scanned her at the hospital and told her that she would be much more likely to be damaged than the baby. I know how you feel though - I remember in my first pregnancy being paranoid about every little knock and would freak out when my friends' kids tried to jump on me - like the others have said, now DS bounces all over the bump and it doesn't bother me at all.

Effie how blinkin annoying is this testing lark? It never ceases to amaze me how often the do test/send test away/get results/pass on results sequence falls apart - I mean it's not rocket science is it, and it's what doctor's, nurses and labs do all day every day. Anyway I hope it turns out okay when you eventually find out the results and you manage not to fret about it too much in the meantime.

oh dear there's an apostrophe on the loose - apologies to all fellow pedants on this thread

weight loss... I gained about 11kg last time, lost about 5 kg straight away I think, then about another 3 kg in the next few weeks with no effort at all.

The remainder took about a year to shift though!

I've put more weight on this time - 11kg already so probably on course to put on at least 13 by the time the baby arrives. You often don't gain much in the last month though for some reason - maybe because it's so bloody hard to fit any food in.

poisondwarf I am so sad I actually re-read your post to find where the apostrophe was

I don't know how much I lost with DD - but it took me ages to get back into pre-preg clothes too.

LadyT thanks for the recommendation of a lawyer - but I agree that there is little I can prove. It's more annoying and dispiriting than anything else, and there's no legislation against that! Am having a briefing with the man who was so effusive tomorrow at 2:30pm.

Had my own minor act of rebellion today and got the early train at 4:15pm. Ooh, I'm so hard!

Still very weepy and wibbly but I'll get over it - go back for six months to get my post-maternity bonuses and then will leave. Sad, because I thought I was at a company where I could build my career, but it's obviously not to be. As my DH said last night "it's just a job". Last time I was on maternity leave I faced redundancy when I got back and didn't do too badly, so I daresay I can survive this.

Thanks to all of you for your support. I hope in the next few weeks I can start seriously nesting etc and can start being a support back to you lot on the thread instead of just whingeing on about myself!

effie you can of course say that, it must be so frustrating to have to wait to find out for sure.

arti period pains on and off here too. I hope yours are not too uncomfortable.

verso I don't have anything to add to all the good advice but I'm seriously for you. jumpjockey your situation sounds really frustrating too.

kayz lots of rest this evening, I hope you feel better in the morning. Yay for your grant coming in!

LadyT at the thought of Lady Baby in stilettos!

poisondwarf thanks for your support, my GP also said something similar - that I should remind them if the due dtae comes and goes that they brought it forward 6 days at a late stage and ask to be monitored instead of induced. I hope I will be brave enough to stand up for myself when/if the time comes.

Beans I have no idea how much weight I have gained, have not been on the scales since my Booking appt and now I'm too scared!

I have a question that I'm not sure if anyone will be able to help with. On Mon, my GP said my blood pressure was going up and was now borderline high at 140/84. She said if the bottom number got to 90 it would be worrying. She said I could wait until my next appointment with the midwife in 2 weeks to get it checked again but that i should go back and see her (the GP) if I got any headaches or felt 'unwell'. Well this afternoon i fell asleep for about an hour and have woken up with the beginnings of a headache behind my eyes. It may come to nothing or may get worse this evening. It's definitely not seriously painful at the moment but it is a headache. Right, finally to my question, do you think i should go and get my blood pressure checked at the GP tomorrow? Is a mild headache anything to take note of or am I just being a hypochondriac?!

TIA if anyone manages to plow through all that!

thanks for all the input on bump bashing! He's still moving around a lot - the GP also said I should take baths (I guess unless they're really cool) I didn't know that? Oops
Very impressive Rosmerta - my Mum said the same thing I think but I think i've gained more than she did. I definately have seen my arse, thighs and bingo wings somewhat expand If BF burns as many calories as they say it does I'll be waking babykmp up on the hour to fatten him up and thin me out!

Pixsix I would go and just get it checked. Just to be on the safe side. It's probably just a headache.

I gained far to much weight with DS and never lost it. I haven't put on anywhere near as much with this one and I am determined to lose the weight.

pixsix- I'd get your bp checked, it takes then a few mins and worth for the reassurance.

sorry ds on lap demanding telly!

pixsix having been all through this with my last pg I can sympathise!!

I am not an expert at all but had bp problems, consultants etc last time asking all those questions. From what I understand, 140/84 isn't particularly high but it depends what your baseline reading was - if you were 90/60 when you booked then it's high for you. As you know, they are worrying about pre-eclampsia and with that it's not so much a case of crossing a magic threshold, more how much it's risen over the course of the pg.

A mild headache that goes away probably isn't anything to worry about - but if doesn't go away, gets worse or you get anything like visual disturbances then definitely get it checked asap. either way, I'm sure they wouldn't mind if you just popped back in to get checked if it put your mind at rest.

pixsis - I went to appointment today - and my BP was up but not too much - 136/75 it's normally pretty low and since they also found trace sugar in urine they now want more Blood tomorrow morning after fasting. I'd have yours checked to put your mind at ease - may as well, but perhaps you just had a couple of coffee's or something?
I'm hoping the sugar they found was due to my cravings for copious amounts of OJ that i've been consuming.....

pixsix - I'd get checked out!
I had Pre-eclampsia with DD1 and ended up having an emergency section at 30 weeks followed by a week in high dependency and a few more weeks post natal ward - DD1 was in ICU and then Special Care for 2 months - it's not worth ignoring things. They seem to be concerned if your diastolic (bottom number) goes 20 over what you booked in at - but they also need to look for protein in your pee, any new swelling, sudden weight gain, flashing lights, and probably blood tests too. I would get a BP check tomorrow and take a urine sample with you - if you explain you should get seen pretty soon - if you can't get in at your GP do you have an antenatal assessment unit? Am having a similar worry myself - am 32 weeks now but have had some protein, slightly raised BP and now am seeing lots of flashing lights so will be getting checked out in the morning. At the end of the day if everything's fine then you will feel reassured and no-one will mind checking you out because you're just looking out for what you've been told to look out for!!
Hope it goes well - let us know how you get on. Sorry for waffling!

Thanks all, I guess I will try to get a GP appt tomorrow just to be on the safe side. They keep some appts free and you can get them if you phone at 8am so shouldn't be a problem to see someone.

TYV I'm sure you're right and I don't need to worry, it is only a mild headache and I don't have any of the other symptoms you described. It would definitely not be out of character for me to be worried about nothing!

Traceface good luck for your appt tomorrow, you must be quite worried given your history, I hope everything is ok for you. Let us know how you get on.

Agree that best thing to do is not worry about weight. But hard not to - for me last time just BF and going for a walk most days when DS was very small meant it all wen. Was completely ravenous when BF and ate loads - remember deciding after about three months it was probably better to only have one pudding/cake a day and I don't normally have a sweet tooth. DH loved it as house always full of goodies.

I'd lost all the weight by about 6 months - and then actually ended up thinner than I had been. Think this was because amount of calories I'd previously been consuming in alcohol every night in pre-baby days.

Also my bump has taken such a battering from DS this time I'm sure you haven't done any harm kmp. Totally sympathize with less than brilliant parking too. I'm a reasonably competent driver normally - but absolutely rubbish when pregnant - I seem to lose all sense of spatial awareness. Very nearly got bloke in the street to park my car for me last week (and did have to resort to this a number of times last pg when trying to squeeze car into soho parking spaces). Shaming - especially as I normally pride myself on not being pathetic girl about such things. Much respect to LadyT for learning now - am sure it's harder.

Hope your results get sorted out Effie. Unbelievable how many times this goes wrong. My HG was made loads worse for a couple of weeks because I had an undiagnosed UTI that they forgot to phone me about.

pixsix am sure GP wouldn't mind seeing you again - and better to be safe especially if it's worrying you.

Hello, Is it too late to join? I am due on Dec 24th at St Thomas's with twin girls. Original due date based on 40 weeks was Jan 14th. But doc says full term for twins is 37 weeks...

lal07 unfortunately the parking was planned that way since i've had so many car doors opened up on my car at Tesco, I decided to go cllose to the wall but completely underestimated the size of my stomach and arse! Although my driving has also been pretty crap of late!

Hi anj !!

hello feeling a bit crap tonight, and poor DS got the raw end of it poor little man.