Due in June 10! Longer than the Lord of the Rings!

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new thread 604 posts is far too many for one little thread, time to start again!!

KVG, it wa a small tube of mini eggs, but after 4 slices of toast, it basically 'done me in'!!

I called a friend who came round to look after dd for me while i had a nap. Just had the most awful nights sleep last night, a combination of blocked nose and needing to pee. I'm so glad I did, otherwise I would have run around organising making myself exhausted!

When I woke up dd was so pleased to see me Now I know how dp feels every night when he gets home!!

evening all

had a good day, worked til lunch time then met some more mumsnetters at Meadowhall this pm for a spot of shopping, not that i managed to buy anything! the lady in m and s was very useful when measuring me for bras she measured and declared that i'd need a 40DD, since i was wearing a 40E which is too small in the cup but too big round i knew she was talking through her bottom!! then couldn't be bothered to play the trying on lots to get the right size game!!

Lua - sorry to hear you've not been given any more useful info, thinking of you!

JonahB - bump is obviosuly soo small that said useless m and s women asked if i wanted nursing bras!!! not suer where she thought the baby was since DD was in the pushchair

Thank god its the weekend

Lua - the day at the hospital didn't sound very nice

Nab - I'm glad Bubba has moved a bit to put your mind at rest.

Well I went to see the Dr today and they are going to speak to some people and see what was happening with the referral that has gone astray. I also consulted him about a strange lump I had found - it turns out it is foliculitis and not at all life threatening. The midwife phoned me back and we had a talk I don't feel as fragile now I have spoken to a few people.

Hope you all have a good weekend. I'll be catching up on sleep as on a good day I get little more than 3 hours

Hi evening all
hope you all have a lovely weekend ......all this choc talks makes me hungry lol think DH might have a bought a box for sunday ..fingers crossed.
Hope everything goes well for you Lua hugs .you are a very positive lady...chat soon

Hello Everyone

Hope you're all ok, I'm so sorry a lot of you are feeling glum and worried right now

Lua, thanks for posting about your appt. I can't believe you waited so so long just to be told your consultant wasn't there, and then to have the doc say that. Hardly puts your mind at rest does it? I so hope you don't feel too stressed until you can have your next tests x

Hi Uwila - Mothercare World is actually on the Brooklands "Paddock Retail" site, (approached from Brooklands Road or Byfleet Road I think) along with a Comet, Argos, and round the courner, a big Tesco and Marks and Spencer. SIX Oreos!! that's as bad as me, maybe worse!

Uki - I have to say now that that woman sounds like she might have some kind of psychological disorder and might have developed some kind of mild obsession with you. This has happened to me in the past with a woman I had been (very casually) friendly with at college. She eventually turned out to be suffering from paranoid schizophrenia. I ended up feeling sorry for her as over time she really disintegrated and ended up in a psychiatric hospital. I'm not saying your woman has schizophrenia, I just don't think you should take it personally and certainly shouldn't feel for one moment that you are in the wrong. It is her problem.

KVG - I have a BIG thing for plums at the moment, not had the citrus thing really though. Wish I did, it sounds far more healthy than what I normally like to stuff! At least I don't have an ice-cream maker

EYM - I have no difficulties getting to sleep, but, apart from a trip to the loo in the night, I do have difficulty getting up!!

Lippy - I still have a blocked nose every night. Occasionally it wakes me up because I can't breath and have to go and fiddle with it until it clears a bit. Had this since day one. Weird isn't it?

Pink - Where's your lump? will it go of it's own accord? Glad to hear you're feeling a bit less fragile. I'm glad you posted your own thread, you must feel a bit better knowing you're not alone, and I'm pleased you have spoken to some nice people x

When I took the dog out for his walk today, for the first time ever, I actually had to stop for a while a couple of times to catch my breath!

Hello Everyone

Hope you're all ok, I'm so sorry a lot of you are feeling glum and worried right now

Lua, thanks for posting about your appt. I can't believe you waited so so long just to be told your consultant wasn't there, and then to have the doc say that. Hardly puts your mind at rest does it? I so hope you don't feel too stressed until you can have your next tests x

Hi Uwila - Mothercare World is actually on the Brooklands "Paddock Retail" site, (approached from Brooklands Road or Byfleet Road I think) along with a Comet, Argos, and round the courner, a big Tesco and Marks and Spencer. SIX Oreos!! that's as bad as me, maybe worse!

Uki - I have to say now that that woman sounds like she might have some kind of psychological disorder and might have developed some kind of mild obsession with you. This has happened to me in the past with a woman I had been (very casually) friendly with at college. She eventually turned out to be suffering from paranoid schizophrenia. I ended up feeling sorry for her as over time she really disintegrated and ended up in a psychiatric hospital. I'm not saying your woman has schizophrenia, I just don't think you should take it personally and certainly shouldn't feel for one moment that you are in the wrong. It is her problem.

KVG - I have a BIG thing for plums at the moment, not had the citrus thing really though. Wish I did, it sounds far more healthy than what I normally like to stuff! At least I don't have an ice-cream maker

EYM - I have no difficulties getting to sleep, but, apart from a trip to the loo in the night, I do have difficulty getting up!!

Lippy - I still have a blocked nose every night. Occasionally it wakes me up because I can't breath and have to go and fiddle with it until it clears a bit. Had this since day one. Weird isn't it?

Pink - Where's your lump? will it go of it's own accord? Glad to hear you're feeling a bit less fragile. I'm glad you posted your own thread, you must feel a bit better knowing you're not alone, and I'm pleased you have spoken to some nice people x

When I took the dog out for his walk today, for the first time ever, I actually had to stop for a while a couple of times to catch my breath!

hey everyone

taken me AGES just to catch up! (even on the new thread....)

Bubbaloo: I'm with King George Hospital in Ilford . I had the choice between Whipps Cross or King George as I live inbetween - is that the same one?

Uki - can't believe that women is STILL going on about what you're wearing....seems like she's got something going on for her

By the way I got tested for diabetes in my last pregnancy - had to struggle up to the hospital at 34 weeks, wait ages for the consultant to be told I was fine. I think the midwife was being overly cautious. I guess they have to check, but was mightily pissed off at having to wait for hours....

I am absolutely knackered today, despite getting an hour's nap when Dd went down. Work is v v busy, I'm having frantic days and doing extra over the weekend. I really don't want to think about stupid work when I've got much more important things to think about !!

Oof redhead, work at the weekend, that should be illegal in pregnancy I think. (Or preferably at all times).

I got an email from a friend at about half five this evening saying did I want to go and work in her team in Reading (not overly handy given I live in Suffolk). I pointed out (in case she had forgotten) that I was pregnant and she said her boss would probably be willing to offer a three month contract if I was going to be available afterwards. By the time I replied I guess she had gone home for the weekend, but I will lay odds when I speak to her on Monday that her boss (a bloke) will probably have some great idea that I can take a fortnight off after the baby and then be raring to go back to work You experienced types, is that generally how it works?! (Just kidding).

I want at least four months off, preferably six, among other reasons to ensure breastfeeding is well enough established that I can express for during the days. (Any thoughts from you experienced types on that? I guess everyone is different so it's v hard to generalise). Anyway, we'll see.

Anyway, time for bed, I hope everyone has a nice weekend.

redheadmum,yes its the same king georges!
i live off chadwell heath lane and im having the baby at harold wood but because i actually come under redbridge the health visitor/midwife will come from king georges after ive had the baby.
where abouts do you live then?

Hello all, am back from my exciting trip to Birmingham(!)
LIPPY - Hurray - you're back - good to see you girl
Readhead - dd gets a treat is she gets mostly stars on her chart (we forgive the odd sad face which what she gets if she doesn't meet her 'targets'- sounds cruel but can't think of better word) Then at the end of week she gets a little pressie - we've had a small doll, stickers, a chocolate lollipop that kind of thing.
JonahB - I've had two fainting episodes now - really weird but quite normal apparently. GP mate suggested I mention it to midwife next visit as it might be anaemia related. Don;t know about you but it really made me feel odd for the rest of the day - vunerable and weepy etc.
Lua- sorry about about your long and fruitless wait.
It's really odd this pg lark - in some clothes I look like I'm due next week and in others people still don't clock it. I'm still in normal jeans (quite low waisted) but have a kind of large curved front bit like a wrong way up bay window.
Am up early with dd this morning giving dh a lie in as I've been away. She said to me 'Mummy your tummy is going to get bigger and bigger, when it's enormous, a baby is going to pop out - as big as me' Dear god please no! She has given it names too - Indiana if it's a girl and Sparklebear if it's a boy. I quite like sparklebear......

Hello all,
I have enjoyed catching up with you all and hope you are all well.
Crap news about your wait Lua but you sound like you are trying to be very sensible about everything, all you can do. How is dh feeling about it all now?
I dragged DH into Limassol yesterday so that I could finally buy some new bras (something I should have done two months ago). The M&S had no maternity bras at all which I found really odd but I ran to Mothercare and bought three from there as the girls were so helpful. One white, one black and one flesh coloured. Actually two of them are nursing bras as they didn't have my size in the normal ones and the style was almost the same. I am hoping to get some use out of them post baby too once my boobs settle down but we will have to wait and see if they will fit. Kat I know what you mean about the trying on game. I was in there for what seemed like hours. DH thought it was too and was not best pleased with me when I got back to the car. Had to be done though. I bought a great dress in there too for £15 which ties above the waist and gives me a bump. I love it and can see it will be worn to death over the next few months.
I hope the diabetes test will be ok Lua. Def treat yourself to a new book or magazine for the wait around. Went to a car boot today and bought some Tweenies vids, jigsaws and mega blocks for dd. (Justified as breastfeeding aids for when dear bump arrives). I am going off to look for that yoga DVD now. See all I needed was a bit of retail therapy. I also went to the library on Fri and got out Vicky Iovine's best friends guide to toddlers. I opened it at a random page and read a bit which made me cry as it was exactly how I had been feeling worrying about number two. Along the lines of 'How can this new baby ever be as good, because you achieved perfection the first time round didn't you?, etc and how 50% of people want a boy and girl and 50% actually want the same sex again for the same reasons and worrying that the new baby will upset the lovely little family you have already created etc. Thankfully I realise that when the baby arrives I will love it regardless and almost uncontrollably but this chapter in this book did make me feel normal again not like some selfish monster!! (Thanks for the kind messages by the way.)
Pink - I am glad you have been able to speak to a few people as well. If you are getting so little sleep it is no wonder you are so worn out by everything!
Take care everyone.

Welshmum - Forgot to say lol at your daughter how cute. My dd still says no and moves on to something else when we say there is a baby in mummy's tummy. She is not yet two though so it is a difficult concept to grasp I think. I like sparklebear too........

Hello everyone,

I just got yelled at for being on mumsnet when DH thinks I should be tending to the budget as per his dictated schedule (aka drop what you are doing and instead do the budget now). Did I mention that this budget mess is his fault? Oh well, just in case anyone had forgotten (or not found it worth noting), thought I'd mention it again.

I should just go take a nice bubble bath and lock the door. Only trouble is I don't have a waterproof laptop.

Oh forgit to mention, Charley, per the discussion on another thread regardinghospital's policies of letting DP/DHs stick around after hours and before active labour. I think you will get your best answer by asking this of the midwife at the next appointment. If she doen't know, ring the maternity unit at the hospital (but not the emergency number as they sometimes get a bit testy about not so urgent questions when they are trying to tend to women in active labour). I'm sure the hospital will have a standard policy on partners stay/going.

I didn't actually have this problem, so I can't complain about my experience.

Uwila, I think you should think about revising dh's schedule, time spent telling you to do the budget might be better spent on him doing some cleaning, so he can get idea of the fun to come when he'll be doing the housework every weekend

Welshie - Indiana and Sparklebear, brilliant names. You really have got to wonder what goes on in kids' minds! One of my nephews decided last year that another of my nephews should have the middle name Einstein. No idea why, he just liked the sound of it.

Uwila - Point out that you are not wasting time on a hobby but that this is important research for the wellbeing of your children and you.
Was just reading that other thread too and was really .
Trib - How are you too? Thought I was the only one around today, or that I had killed the thread by writing such innane triffle on it

Not too bad Coop, exhausting day so far of - er, watching Buffy. I feel it's important not to do too much at the moment, so as not to create expectations of myself for after the baby comes - and then be stressed when I can't achieve them. This is also my excuse for not doing housework, the laundry or in fact anything useful at all. I have eaten some Lindor choc balls though, I am not entirely convinced by them. A bit too creamy for my liking.

I've also been over for a read of the other thread and am in shock at the idea that dh might get sent home from the hospital. I tell you, if he gets sent home I am going too! It had never even occurred me to ask about this before now, I just naturally assumed that dh would be able to stay for the duration. The worrying thing is what else won't I think to ask about and then be 'surprised' about .... argh. I am getting more in favour of the idea of a doula again, if I can find one that deals with our rural backwater.

Well, he walked into the kitchen to see mumsnet on the scren, and sighed a groan of misery. So I sighed one back at him. He made some nasty comment about how I said I would do the budget, but I wasn't doing it. I said I'll do it on my schedule not his and I have a right to type on mumsnet if I want to for 20 minutes before I get to it... Then, I stopped in mid sentence and said "never mind". He said what does that mean? I said it means that what I have to say has been said before. It will just go in circles and some things are better left unsaid. So he said, "Is that a roundabout way of saying I'm right?" After failing to follow his logic, I said "no." And that was the end of the conversation.

Have I mentioned this whole mess is HIS fault. Oh right, just thought you guys might have forgotten.

And people wonder why I work... to escape from my grown-up child. Why does no one understand that?

Trib, I think I might take up working on the weekends. It should definitely remain legal.

Uwila - I think you should get some compensation from DH - at least a months worth of housework and take his credit cards off him! Well I suppose it might be a bit harsh but I'm used to living alone and only have myself to blame if I am short of cash. I couldn't stand it if my beloved ran up bills and told me to do the budgeting - My heart goes out to you, have you reminded him you'll be giving him his second child soon enough? and you went through hell getting DD into the world??? You should never ever let em forget honestly If I was with a guy he'd be harrassed as hell.

Maternity bras are a nightmare coop, I'm glad you found some good ones. I myself have to send away for them now because they don't make them big enough. The ones in mothercare that are supposed to be big enough - my boobs just fall out the edge and hurt if I go for a brisk walk I got a bra just a touch too big the other day (Anita breast feeding) they do as maternity and breast feeding I'm damned if I am going to pay for industrial fortification twice over! I must say when the Milk comes in the bra I just bought in a 'G'which is a touch too big will no doubt be too tight Its no wonder if I wear a jumper I look like I have no bump at all, all the material hangs of my boobs

I have noticed breathlessness charleypops. However I found the only time it really got to me was when I was walking up the hill in Clifton having a conversation with a friend at the same time. Needless to say the hill was the kind where you would have to leave a car in first gear or loose it. I think Bubba is still pretty low down with me still and breathing isn't too hard. I have asthama anyway which provokes a bit of wheezing but I go for an hours quick walk most days now while listening to Bjork in huge stereo headphones (with a woolly hat over the top of course) I think the old lady I went past today thought I was going to rob her!

tribpot - which thread is that? do they really send P/H home? seriously? They put so much emphasis on birthing partners I had no idea they could do that. Thats just mean. I was looking for a doula but didn't have much luck - I wanted a hardship one but didn't get any replys to the mails I wrote. The normal priced ones are between £500 - £700 quid a birth Honestly thats almost 2 months rent for me and totally out of the question. I would like to have one though cos I can't think of anything worse than taking a friend along.

Well I feel a bit better today seeing as I spent the whole morning in bed. I then recieved the washable nappies I sent away for. They seem really good and I won't have to wash a single one myself which sounds even better. I have to send away for some moltex disposables and things though before the date as I'll use those too. After lazing around in bed all morning I had a walk and now I'm going to watch short circuit 2 on 5. I haven't seen it since I was a kid. Probably not as good as I remember but a good excuse to loaf around for the rest of the day. Take care!

Pink - The trick for comfortable bras is not to do the brisk walk thing . A doula sounds as though it would be ideal for your situation Pink (actually I think everyone would benefit from the right kind of support in labour) but I can see the problem with the cost . I hope you hear something. If not a friend would be priviledged to share such a time with you. Do you have any who already have children? I don't think that is crucial but it might make sense. It is a hard decision. I can't even choose someone to look after my dd when I go into hosp let alone to share the whole thing with.
Hope everyone has enjoyed a lazy day.

P.S. What nappies did you get??

hey just a quick message before tucking into a huge plate of pasta.....

bubs: I'm in south woodford, so I had the choice bet Whipps or King George. I think KG are more home birth friendly which is why I chose it - hope that turns out to be true......

and yes, working on the weekends is hellish. I've got a report to finish (tmw night - too knacked tonight), a meeting mon morning and going in an extra day too(aren't I committed employee?) I should get this time back though, so hoping to compensate with a lazy day in front of the telly eating choc eggs....

someone asked a Q about work and going back after maternity leave. I'd say this all depends on how much in demand you are and what sort of firm it is. If they desperately want you then you can dictate terms no matter what sort of firm....and if they are the sort that give good maternity leave etc then they'll be OK.

bump demands food - will return another time!

Pink - here is the thread, sorry, shouldn't have referred to it so cryptically, esp when I had to do a search on charley's username to find it. My SIL (well, one of them, the one with three kids) has been the birthing partner for a friend of hers and I think it worked pretty well. SIL is quite clued up about the whole birth thing as you can imagine, and was able to provide some good reassurance to her friend - more than a dp would have been able to, even if there had been one handy. I think that was what made my SIL think about becoming a doula, actually. (Although she hasn't yet done that). Sorry to hear you haven't been able to find one, someone was asking on another thread about trainee doulas I think. Might be worth a bit of investigation? I know they are not cheap - I wish you could pay £700 to someone to go through the labour for you, that really would be worth it!

Uwila - I'm a bit confused. Whose fault is your financial mess again?! I like dh's complete logic failure that just because you couldn't be bothered making the comments again that must mean he was right. Hmmmmm, picture that.

Perhaps weekend working is the way forward for you after all. You could suggest it to dh, after all, he is home at weekends to take care of dd and future ds, then you can have two days off in the week when the nanny is on duty Perhaps you could pretend this was the only way of affording a cleaner, bet you he'd find the money pretty damn pronto in that case.

Incidentally, on the subject of maternity bras, I still do not own such a thing. In fact I still own not a single item of maternity wear, I really must go and buy some trousers though. I feel I am missing out on being able to complain about maternity bras in some way.

Right, off for dinner and a bit more Buffy I suspect. Have a good evening one and all.

pink-where did you get your maternity bras from?
i've looked in a few places but also need a "G" cup which isnt too easy to find

re bras, try bravissimo or I've always found John Lewis good - Pink, the ladies at JL in Cribbs were excellent for maternity and feeding bras when I had ds, so that was where I was planning to go again.