November 2008: October are popping like peas.......it'll soon be our turn to moo on our knees!!

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Better, No? less cheese-tastic

Welcome back Pookamoo Obs glad you are feeling better, hope it lasts until baby arrives!
Merry I had an emergency CS so can't help with the going in - had section at midnight and was in the bath by 9 the following morning complete with cathetar (sp?) drips etc! - midwife had to watch me but I was past caring by that point! - it was bliss! I was up and about within 8 hours or so too. The peppermint helps with the trapped wind that can occur and you get painkillers for the rest. Much the same as Ceebee and Dozy really.
Well I have my consultant appointment in the morning where I will find out if I def have to have a CS or not - Is it wrong to have changed my mind and now want an elective?? I really want to be brave and try for a VBAC but I am terrified I will end up in the same boat as last time!I have been agonising aver it for the last week and I am secretly hoping the baby is still transverse so I don't have to decide! I don't have a clue where it is at the moment TBH but my whole back and spine right into my neck is agony in certain positions.
Hi to everyone else hope you have all had a good weekend.

Pookamoo welcome back Just think how much time you will have to MN when you finish work

Ladybuzz I am in exactly the same situation as you re whether to go for an elective - but I think I have pretty much made my mind up for an elective rather than a VBAC and I feel happier knowing that my mind is made up. I too would love to be brave and try for a VBAC but I can't convince myself. I still have 3 weeks before I speak to the consultant but can't see myself changing my mind before then - good luck tomorrow

welcome back pookamoo it is very hard to keep up unless you log on lots - I actually don't read any other threads as find it difficult enough to keep up with this one!

ladybuzz and ceebee you are entitled to choose whatever you want for your birth - there is nothing wrong in electing for a CS 2nd time around, or even 1st time around. You have to do what makes you feel happy and comfortable. Having both had emergency CS's you (like me) had a pretty horrible rushed time and no wonder when it comes to subsequent PG's we go with a planned CS. I actually didn't hesitate with DS2 as was so scared that if I had a long labour again, he would get into distress.......In the end, does it really matter how baby arrives? So long and mum and baby are happy and healthy, who are other's to judge what your choice is??? I have had a fair few comments on my decisions such as "oh too posh to push" or " don't you feel your not a real woman for not giving birth " but actually, as we know it is major abdominal surgery and shouldn't be taken lightly. go with what feels right for your and your situation....

DM x

PS Hanaflower love the new name!!

hey guys

merry, that's shite about three days till you can have a shower . DD was delivered by elCS at 11:30 and I was up and about later that evening, with my catheter bag on a little mobile trolley (thankfully the loo was right outside the door of the side room I was in.

My catheter was removed at about 11pm ish the same evening as the night MW said I'd be much more comfortable (she was right) and I had a shower about midnight....it was bliss. They would have let me home the next day as well, but I was in there for the rest so politely declined

I also saw the anaesthetist the day before and then went in for 8am the next day...had final checks, premeds, got into my attractive blue stockings and was taken up to theatre at 10:30 for the epidural etc....DD was out by 11:30.

Pain relief...take anything and everything they offer . I was given a combination of voltarol, codiene and paracetomol, although there was the option of a morphine pessary if required (I declined that due to the breast feeeding as it might have made DD sleepy). they will keep you on a good regime when in hopital and give you some to take home. My advice would be to stagger it so that you only ever have a couple of hours between doses of meds. It feels much better after a few days though, and then you realise you haven't felt the need to take anything. The peppermint is for the trapped wind....the pain from that is all in your shoulders and can be pretty brutal; worse than the pain from your wound at times! And, don't suffer in silence!

welcome back pookamoo; nice to see you again .

Things have calmed down a bit here, but definately feeling "not quite right" down below. It feels like my cervix (or something????) is halfway down my vagina (sorry if TMI ), like the feeling you get when a tampon isn't inserted as far as it should be...and I feel stabby pains from this when I walk. I am trying to pluck up the courage to have a prod about , but am very worried about what I will feel . I asked DH to help, but he ran from the room screaming....strangely.

I have my 36 week appointment to discuss my VBAC tomorrow, so I will ask them to have a look at me. Meanwhile still getting the crampy nasty sore BHs on a pretty regular basis and a feeling of pressure down below as well. I feel quite scared.

on that note, if anyone else wants to join in with a text buddies for when you go into labour/have an announcement, email me on daisybump at yahoo dot co dot uk. I'm going to sort them out tomorrow, I promise

and for ladybuzz and ceebee, I was in the same position with DD re VBAC vs elCS. I had decided I would try for a VBAC, but due to a whole load of reasons, elCS seemed like the best option for us.

the only reason I'm going for a VBAC this time is I feel like I've been given another chance to do this (we weren't planning on another baby) and I'd never forgive myself if I didn't at least give it my best shot...if that makes any sense. I think though, that whatever you both feel is right for you and your situation is the right thing to do

Hello all,

lacks That sounds pretty scary - hope all is o.k. At least tomorrow you might be able to find out what's going on. Sorry - I'm not much help am I Just lots of hugs to you xx

thanks barbareeba , it's not that bad really, just odd!

Just checking some stuff and I've come across some birth plan ideas for having a CSection that Marslady sent me when I was expecting DD if anyone is interested. Bung me an email and I'll forward it; although I can't access my mail account at the minute......bloody yahoo!

Thanks all for the good cs advice and reassurance. Feel much better about it, reading what you have written. I am going to ask about whether I can sleep at home night before, as I am sleeping so badly and will definitely not get a wink of sleep in hospital. It's time I put my foot down a bit, I have been the ideal, no-trouble at all patient so far. Am regretting my hosp choice tbh, they are a bit pants, overworked, not in a nice area of London etc...but can hopefully find good midwives who will let me shower etc. Looking forward to meeting twinsters, that's for sure.

vbab, ds is sick too. He just cried all the way back from my parents' house, overtired and ill. It is usual cough, cold, but quite a bad one. Hope yours is nothing bad.

Well, hope to be around this thread tomorrow, but feel like I am gradually losing it this weekend. Sorry for all the scrabble games that didn't get completed. I am really reaching new heights of sleep deprivation (up from 12.30-5am last night, partly ds). My feet and fingers are swollen, feel like hanging on by the skin of my teeth...

Want to keep up to see how babies are going though. Lacks, let us know what they tell you tomorrow. I know that tampon feeling, but only with a tampon!

Off to bed now, early night...

Merry that you are feeling so bad - really hope you can manage a good nights sleep tonight and feel more human in the morning.

Daisy/Dozy thanks for the advice on an elcs. Apart from DH saying am I too posh to push (in a joky way ) nobody else has commented on it thankfully. Tbh, I am not one of these women who have a desperate urge to experience a natural birth and I honestly honestly don't think I will ever regret never giving birth 'properly' - I would rather do what is best for me, DH and DS and, of course, the baby and an elcs is going to be the best option and cause the least disruption for DS who, rightly or wrongly, is the most important factor in this for me.

hello

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I am due on 28th November - so guess I must be almost last on this list. :-)

hi there reluctantincubator and welcome to the thread; it gets a bit busy and mad around here.....obviously there wasn't a lot else to do in february but make babies as there are loads of us.

Is this your first?

Hey all,

Just doing a v tired last minute post, will catch up soon properly but it'll probly be Tueday as I am [ahem] working from home then. I am so knacked but gosh this weekend has been a lot of busy fun getting ready for the bairn and seeing my lovely family and other insane things that no pregnant woman should be doing.

[clears throat and adjusts mic downwards to shortarse height]

First shout out goes to Obs, welcome back, love! I do hope you're feeling better and it must be so nice to be out of the hospital. I thought of you when I was away from tinternet this weekend and was wondering how you were.

Lacks - eek - hope baby is behaving itself in there! That sounds very laboury but I haven't a clue what it actually feels like, but I'm with you on the yikes factor. I had such bad indigestion today that I scared DH, who started timing me until I told him it was just wind and to get the gaviscon, not the stopwatch. Poor man. Also, did you get your rings off? I have a lovely red mark where my rings were as my fingers started swelling up right in the middle of M&S and I had to take them off in the loos - twas a close-run thing!

Hi HM2J, glad you had a good hols, you brave lady!

Hey Reluctantincubator - welcome and how are you? Hi Pookamoo, I only came on the thread in August or something so nice to meet you!

Sorry if I missed anyone, I am now so forgetful my goldfish is keeping my diary for me - this is not a good working arrangement and tbh I do not think that she will pass the probationary period.

I have been shopping for England this weekend and now have all my hospital bag stuff, bedding and moses basket stuff and a baby bath! The pram is on order and will be delivered on 21st of this month and I even have a changing mat and that free changing bag you get from Boots when you sign up to their mailing list parenting club and buy a set of pampers. I also have new huge trousers that actually fit my enormous bottom and will be washing them in the evenings so I can wear them every day .

I also got to see my fab auntie and cousins, one of whom spent a lot of time giving me advice and telling me what I can and can't do in pregnancy (have a cup of tea, henna my hair etc) and how fat I was looking (she is 20 with no kids). So I strangled her with her own skinny jeans and nicked her pudding.

My lovely mum-type-thing is retiring! This has put chills up DH who thinks she will be over ALL the time, but is ace news for me, as she is going to be really supportive when the baby comes. I have had depression and SAD in the past and so am a little worried about PND - this feels like a real weight off my shoulders as she is going to come over at least once a week after DH gets back after paternity leave.

Sorry for mega post - I missed you guys! Off to bed and love to all.

Reluctant - see what Lacks means? Don't let me put you off, I never shut up...

ignore rutho.....she is our resident funny woman and makes us all laugh

Ring still on!!!!!! It isn't coming off without help from a sharp implement

I'm hoping I won't swell up too much and they will be fine

Good news about your mum being around to support you rutho; it'll be really good for her and your DC to have her around as well. DS and I lived with my parents for six months when he was a baby and they were very close as a result. Your DH will get used to the babysitting on tap I'm sure.

hello again - DH pinched the 'puter (MUST get wireless doodah sorted).

Sorry I realised I lacked a lot of fundamental information about my situation there.

Yes its my first - I am 36, and have been extremely lucky in having a very pain and problem free pregnancy so far (very little morning sickness, the usual tiredness and one haemorrhoid which I battled into submission with a high fibre diet)

February was our last ditch attenpt before IVF was due to commence, (having been trying for 2-3 years) so it was planned and unexpected all at once.

Its incredible....and very very scary. I've never thought of myself as being particularly maternal (more of a motorbike-riding tomboy sort) but now I have started cooking obsessively. I even made a pie today. From scratch. Pastry and everything. normally DH does all the cooking. Its very bizarre this nesting malarky. If I start cleaning too, DH really will think the bodysnatchers have been in....

Have a science-y background, so have been reading research behind the "rules" obsessively and forming my own opinions. I am particularly interested in the doctor vs midwife battleground which I did not previously know existed. Asked my auntie who was a midwife in the 1960's and she said its always been like that. Fascinating.

Am planning home birth, if no problems arise over course of next few weeks.

Yeag, the ungrateful swine! Is your finger okay, not going a funny colour or anything? I worry. Are you sure you don't need to go to A&E (or wherever one goes for these things) tomorrow to get it removed? Nag nag nag.

Sorry, cross-post. Congrats on a great pregnancy, Reluctant!

Yeah, the cleaning thing. I just sorted through our teatowels. At this time on a Sunday. Tch.

Welcome Reluctant! Wow - I'm impressed by your nesting instincts having kicked in already.
There's a few of us on this thread planning HB's - there's a really good thread for first-time home birthers which I've just discovered from one of the other November ladies.
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/childbirth/573041-the-thread-for-first-time-home-birthers-or-thinking-about
Lacks hope Virgil is going to stay put. I totally remember (and cannot abide) that tampon having come out feeling. Horrid. Poor you.
saurus glad you had such a jolly weekend with family and sorting out stuff for the nursery. I have to admit, I grin from ear to ear every time I walk past the nursery

Thanks for all of the advice nd reassurance ladies, I should hopefully have my birth date today
Good Luck with your appointment Lacks hope it goes well and you find out the cause of your strange feelings.
Welcome Reluctant - Stay away from the cleaning its not good for you
Its my last week at work - Yeay, Only in 2 mornings - roll on 1pm Wedneday.
Merry hope you managed to get some sleep and DS is ok

Morning All,

Hope everyone had a good weekend.

Just had a MW appointment and all was fine. Tarquin got hiccups just at the point when she was listening for his/her heart, it was very funny.

Morning all, anyone get any sleep last night? You could pack my labour stuff into the bags under my eyes and pandas are eyeing me up speculatively. Merry, hope you got more than a couple of hours [hugs].

Lacks dear, good luck with your appointment. I've also just emailed you about the text buddies thing as I cannot remember if I have already emailed you about this. My brain hurts.

Go Buzz - wow, it's getting really real, this whole baby thing, no?

reluctant - welcome and congrats.

Well the christening I went to yesterday was lovely and my outfit if you could call it that wasn?t too bad. DS was ok but began to become a handful in the church. Never really attended church except for the usual christenings, weddings and funerals but I am a believer in some ways. Anyway I digress ... the vicar did go on a bit, it was half an hour before he even got to the christening bit and there were 4 families. So those of you who already have children that are not robot like and sit still can imagine how my DS was getting . Not that he was screaming blue murder or anything but was building up in noise and activity. Didn?t help things that his year older cousin kept taking things off him and being naughty herself so DS being 2&3months of course would copy. The vicar also made me wonder how used to children he was because the way he held some of the babies and children when christening them was scary.

Had horrible night last night though because as I have mentioned recently I think DS has been off colour, think it may be the last teeth and was overtired which is never a good thing. So DS would not go to bed, which is not like him at all normally good as gold. Wanted "daddy cuddles" and when DH would put him down he would start screaming and holding onto DH. I decided to play bad cop which made DS scream more and I ended up leaving DH to it and went off in tears all hysterical. REALLY upsets me that DS always wants "daddy cuddles" when he is poorly and hates me. Eventually DH got DS off to sleep probably by 9 which is very late for DS.

Then DS woke up screaming in the middle of the night for daddy cuddles and we broke one of our rules ... DS does not sleep in our bed! We decided it was best as DS wanted DH so much and was screaming so bad (never experienced it so bad) and DH couldn?t sleep in DS bed.

DS woke up at normal time this morning and went to nursery no problem but I have to say he was being very naughty (normally sign of tiredness) and pushing me away.

Hope he likes me more when I pick him up at 1pm.

I'm a little worried actually as I should be exhausted but feel ok at the moment. Think I must be running of adrenalin.

morning everyone

rutho and merry you need to have a nap this afternoon!

goodluck lacks and ladybuzz let us know how you get on!

welcome reluctant this is a friendly and chatty place to be

well, i have FINALLY put up pics from my
3D scan i had at 27weeks
they are on my profile if anyone wants a peek