Dec 08: but that doesn't mean you can touch my bump!

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New thread with bisou's title suggestion

Went pram shopping with a friend the other day, she ended up getting a Britax Vigour, which looked really good to me.
She couldn't see much disadvantage to it over the Bugaboo which she also liked, so she went for it! Maybe worth a look if you haven't seen it already?
I thought the P&Ts looked too, and not exposed, particularly the most expensive (typical!) one - is it the Vibe? They did seem to be heavier and bulkier when folded down (even without the double bit) though, but I guess that is to be expected.

I think everything has it's good and bad points, doesn't it? It's just a question of research etc. It's all so overwhelming!!!

Morning All,

Hope everyone had a nice weekend!

Arti hope you are feeling a bit better now.

WG M and S do quite a few "maternity" bras. Not all of them are horrible and granny-ish.

Hennaly Welcome, gosh bet you can tell us all a thing of two being pg with baby number 7!!!

Beans: the Bugaboo is expensive and I'm not keen on them personally but they have a ghi resell value so if you don't end up using it for long you could always sell it on. I'm not sure about the Phil and Ted system where you sling the baby in what looks to me like a shopping basket on teh bottom (I like the baby to be able to see my face and be facing me) but some poeple swear by them. The other one which looks good to me, though heavy and expensive, is the Stokke where the baby is really high up. Only tried one in the shop, and found teh mechanism for getting up and down stairs tricky.

we on te other hand will be sticking with the M&P Pliko Pramette which is still serving DS as a pushchair. Will convert back to pram mode and poss get a Macalaran for DS. Oh and use the sling of course.

Beans yes, definitely!! I can't remember what's what to be honest, I can probably remember the ones I looked at and didn't like, but can't remember why!! It is definitely very confusing.
By teh way I meant the P&Ts looked good above, kind of missed out an essential word!
I don't think you can go wrong with the bugaboos, everyone seems to like them, but they are so pricey! But if you did have another baby, and had to sell it after a couple of years in good condition, it would sell for decent money 2nd hand.

re bras, I don't have maternity or nursing ones, just cheap "tshirt" non-underwired ones from M&S.

Beans that's a tricky one. It might make things very complicated to try and buy a pram for two children at this stage. It might be very quick to concieve a second child or the tiredness/body settling down after this one stage might make things take slightly longer - by which time your little one might be that much older/younger could go in a sling etc. It took us a month to concieve our twins and nearly a year to concieve this one as my cycle went haywire for ages after being 28 day clockwork pre-children. But of course everyone is different and you might fall pregnant again straight away!

My friend who did get pregnant with second much quicker than she thought ended up getting a double pram second hand off ebay for a great price - so if you don't find a double now you might get one later..

I looked at the Phil and Teds for my twins but didn't like the lower section at all. Although for some people it seems to work brilliantly.

Isn't there some pram where you can get a toddler seat which goes on the front? I've seen people with them but no idea who they are made by.

We are wrestling with whether to get a single pram or use our double again. I did have dreams of a nice narrow single which I could get in and out of all the shop doors I could never enter with our nipper double!

Very pricey! I'm keep on the jogging 3 wheel one's in an attempt to lose bubba fat fast! Plus I walk the dog....
Welcome Hennaly #7 ??????? please tell us more! Congrats!! and wow!!

welcome hennaly glad you found the thread!

Beans i know pushchair/pram shopping is exciting/exhausting and i have been through a fair few pushchairs in my time! But i would echo what hatty said about possibly not a good idea shop for one that will fit two right now. I did buy a double after ds2 was born as there was only 14 months between them there was no way around it, we paid £200 for a nice maclaren double buggy which lasted us a good year before i passed it onto a good home. However i now know that i could have got an equally good double on ebay for less then £50 if i had looked! Make the most of having a single now!

Is anyone else feeling really rotten at the moment? My nausea has made an umwelcome return and my pelvis is absolutely killing me. Just feel like lying down but not much chance with my boys leaping around

reban much sympathy with the return of the nausea. Mine has been back for a few weeks and is getting really bad some mornings. I've been sick a couple of times too.

I also have a constantly stuffy nose and a cough that won't go away, especially at night, so am feeling sorry for myself!

effie have you seen the video??

Thanks reban - great advice - I think we'll go for a good single pram (possibly the bugaboo, I'm afraid) and then sell it as you can get a good price for it! Then get a double buggy next time round - thank you! I appreciate the advice.

pixsix - I'm the same! I've been feeling so rotten for 2 weeks now and am still full of cold. It's ridiculous - my cough just won't go! I don't have the nausea, thankfully - instead I'm constantly hungry, which is just so annoying - I can't stop my tummy rumbling. Just had lunch and half an hour later, and I'm ravening. Ridiculous! I thought my tummy was meant to shrink by now.

Thanks reban - great advice - I think we'll go for a good single pram (possibly the bugaboo, I'm afraid) and then sell it as you can get a good price for it! Then get a double buggy next time round - thank you! I appreciate the advice.

pixsix - I'm the same! I've been feeling so rotten for 2 weeks now and am still full of cold. It's ridiculous - my cough just won't go! I don't have the nausea, thankfully - instead I'm constantly hungry, which is just so annoying - I can't stop my tummy rumbling. Just had lunch and half an hour later, and I'm ravening. Ridiculous! I thought my tummy was meant to shrink by now.

Beans I'm constantly hungry too! I just can't seem to decide what I want to eat and don't find anything fills me up. I was just thinking about a second lunch too.....

everyone seems to have given good advice on the pushchair thing, i am a lover of maclarens myself as they are heavy duty and easy to handle in shops on buses etc. Mine has about a zillion miles on the clock from all the walking DS and i used to do around the east end etc and has been on lots of trips on trains planes and automobiles. It is also the one with the little window in the top so easy to see DS when he was little (u want to be able to see them constantly). i washed it the other day (that nesting thing) and it washed really easily and came up looking brand new. i am going to pop it into mothercare for a little service and going over to make sure the brakes etc are all up to scratch but otherwise has done well so far. in the end beans it really depends on your lifestyle, whether you will be on public transport or driving whether you like lightweight, or want something you can hang a month worth of shopping off and it won't tip over. I have had friends who bought the Bugaboo for £500+ and been very happy but have also had one couple who bought a Graco from Kiddicare for £40 and loved it and actually were the only people i knew who didnt buy a 2nd pushchair later.

i def have the nausea and indigestion and finding a complete inconvenience at the moment as it just burns. Have just eaten a punnetof strawberries and some figs in the hope that it will satisfy my hunger but won't make me feel yukky.

we have chatted about the bra thing before and i think consensus was M&S are crap, underwires are fine if fitted properly, Bravissimo are the best fitters around but all us little ladies were jealous as we couldn't go there. For smaller ladies who don't need underwire, Bravado or elle macpherson are good.

I tried, I really did. Failed miserably to catch up though.

Have read a bit, scanned a bit and there are so many bloody posts I don't know where to begin!

There was talk of baking...baking is good. I love baking and eating the results

Was it Beans shopping with vouchers in JL? Hope it was fun! We also have some to spend from the wedding list but I have no idea what on.

Baby number 7?! Are you mad?! Welcome

re swelling up etc, my rings are fine, loose even (I know I only recently got my wedding ring but it was made the same size as my engagement one) but I cna't wear my watch anymore

Prams and bras. The hardest bits of pg I think! Bras are a nightmare. I'm lucky to have gone big enough now to go to Bravissimo and they are fab. They carry a lot of maternity and feeding bras in stock so it is ace. IMO M&S are rubbish and JL can be good if you get a good fitter.

Have given up on pushchairs. Went looking at the weekend but I think the decision is to leave it and sling the new one, then when it gets to 4 months or so I'll get a buggy board for my Maclaren and have the freedom to swap and change between walking, pushchair and sling between Ds and Dc2. If all fails then I'll look at getting something else but it is such an outlay. If I were buying my first pushchair again I would buy a mountain buggy or something.

Also been looking at cots. We are cosleepers but want a sidecar thing this time as smaller bed than with ds and also have ds to consider, don't want to find myself telling him he can't come in because the baby is there when he is poorly! Trying to decide between the mothercare bedside cot and the arms reach thing. Arms reach has the advantage of also being a travel cot so easy to transport but not sure about the lip on it. Once you add the mattress cost to the mothercare one then price difference negligable but could get a mothercare on ebay and just buy a mattress, would prob be expensive to get a mattress for second hand arms reach. Decisions decisions.

YV we have the house in my mummy book too, i like the bit were the little boy makes sure the mummy gets some rest.

Effie i think it is lovely what you are doin for those poor little sick kids at GOSH.

I'm thinking I might get a digestive (0r 7) when I get home - second lunch! I also am gagging for a coke, but am having blood pressure taken again today, so don't want to do anything to send it up!!!

Bra thing - I've got a black lacey Fantastie one from John Lewis, which I love! It's so comfy - but was £28 so quite pricey, I thought. Because I won't stay a 38DD for long - think I'll go up. It's extraordinary suddenly having norks - I'm used to being a 36B! But they don't look that much bigger, to me. Maybe that's in comparison to my tummy, which is bigger!!!

indith we are half co-sleepers half cot sleepers what ever works really currently DS comes in to us anywhere between 5-7am so we are getting a baby hammock nest thing (2nd hand very cheap from a friend).so can pop baby back in there if need be.

arti and poisondward - thanks so much for your tips/experience with allergies - its so encouraging to hear! Will definitely try washing DDs stuff - although whatever it was doesn't seem to have set her off again.

Am also struggling with what to do about buggies/prams. Have the McLaren Techno which I love and is great, but DD will only be 20 months when the new one arrives so am thinking will need some kind of double. (If it was just down to me I would just use a sling to carry the LO, but not sure our nanny will go for this). As we get around on public transport quite a lot, the most practical double seems to be the P&T in terms of size etc, but I totally agree with being a bit unsure about the LO tucked underneath. And DD now seems to have decided she wants to walk everywhere anyway... Hmm.

Oh and kimberly - I agree, Atlanta people are very friendly! Its always a very strange parallel universe experience when I go there as my parents very nearly moved there when I was young, but came to England instead. Always find myself wondering how my life would have been if I had grown up there instead of London!

Hi everyone, hope the meet up on Friday was fun?

I'm another one who's hungry ALL the time (and have been since day 1) - but in the last couple of weeks my stomach has started to shrink and I now can't finish my meals but I'm hungry again about an hour later.

On bras - I'm alternating between my usual underwired ones (and just considering investing in some back extenders for them) and a couple of non underwired t-shirt bras (haven't got enough to get them washed in time!), but I'm not well endowed. Not sure about restricting the milk ducts, but if the wires do then I'll be wearing them more often - I had another boob leakage last night, all over DH whilst I gave him a cuddle! Can't believe how much stuff came out onto his arm - I was a bit , but he was very nice whilst I cleaned him up!!

turnip you're another xmas eve aren't you? If so, we're 27 weeks on Wednesday (I only know cause it's written in my diary - everytime someone asks me I have to think about it - just like I do when I'm asked my age! )

Henally welcome, you've given me confidence in pregnancy, birth and motherhood - it must be pretty darned good if you've got to no 7!

Think that's all I wanted to say - sorry if I've missed anything, so much chat as usual

x

Feeling v sorry for self today - absolutely full of cold and dreadful night last night. I got 20 minutes if I was lucky and had a HUGE meeting at work today which I am now thinking would have gone better if I'd not been ill

Doom! Doom!

(sort of)

Am now eating Green & Black's Maya Gold chocolate.

I'm in underwired bras this time round. I've only had to change size once so far, but I'm very conscious of how they 'should' fit, having been to Rigby and Peller a few years ago and had a lesson on how to check! I hated my maternity efforts with a passion last time - so resolved to have nice bras this time. Once my milk comes in I am tempted to get a 'Hotmilk' bra or two, as they are quite nice but also not underwired (to avoid mastitis).

7 children?! 7?! WOW! . Does it get easier? Are they close together?

Buggywise I think Maclarens rock - but I also went for a Bugaboo this time because I think they're lovely. Purely personal preference though (and other alliterations of our time).

Sympathy to all those feeling rotten at the mo, btw.

Oh - and a silly thing re fundal height... I look v pregnant when I'm standing up but when I lie down my bump almost disappears. Given that you're supposed to measure it lying down, is that a problem? Of course I've now convinced myself that the baby isn't growing fast enough .

Did I say I'm feeling low/negative/sad/poorly/rubbish?!

Verso hugs to you you poor thing.

Hopefully you will have a good night's sleep tonight and feel wondrously better in the morning.

I am still at work - boo .

No idea about the lying down fundal height..sorry.

Verso, if someone were to measure you lying down, because they would press in (as it were) to find the top of your womb, they would get a decent measurement. I think everyone looks less pg when lying down. In the bath, I think I just look lardy, yet upright I am lardy and pregnant . SOrry you've had a pants day. Can you take tomorrow off?

Beans, you CAN wear underwire bras, so long as they fit properly. Whether you are pg or not, the wire is supposed to sit on your ribcage and be nowhere near your boob (well, it will be near but it should not rest on the boob tissue). It is only when the wires sit on your boob itself that the risk of mastitis etc goes up. I think the problem is that many women need a much bigger cup size than they think, the wire then sits in the wrong place and they get into problems. I'm still in old faithful Royce nursing bras (not that I am BF) so no wires to worry me.

Pushchairs - I used my Ryder (which lies nearly flat) from birth as I figured DD2 was more horizontal than in a car seat and it wasn't for hours at a time. I also had a P and T's double but it was the side by side one. I didn't like the baby in the normal P and T being underneath so went for the side by side. I don't think any P and Ts fold up particularly small though, so you might want to check your bootspace if it needs to go in the car on a regular basis.

I've had a horrid day. A man on the bus fell on me and didn't exactly rush to get up. I asked him to move as I was 6 months' pregnant and he was hurting me, to which he called me a f slag! A couple of women agreed with him and I burst into tears. I thought he was an arse though, and by the time I'd arrived at work I was in angry not tearful mode. Left at 3pm as I'd had enough. Seriously thinking about starting my ML earlier just to avoid arsey people on public transport.

CHUTNEY THAT IS TERRIBLE!!!! why did he call you that and why did those strange women agree you were just in the wrong place at the wrong time it wasn't your fault. that has really upset me are you ok? it is bad enough when people don't stand up but that is just mean and weird.

When i was pregnant with DS i got on the bus and there was one seat left it was a window seat in the seat that is behind the stairs on the downstairs part of the double decker bus, the guy in the aisle seat refused to move over so i had to climb over his outstretched legs (i was 8 months pregnant, big & not very maneuverable) unfortunately half way over the bus started up with jolt and threw me into the seat. It really hurt and i said to the guy 'you could have at least moved your legs in for me' he just grunted and ignored me. My tummy hurt for ages after. It was something so simple but with hormones on board i found his meaness really upsetting.