Due Nov 2008 - PMA - our tums & bums are growing but we get an excuse to wear big knickers - now that's a stroke of luck!!! x x x

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Hope you like the thread - minds not working so well at the moment!

Hey Roca, of course we remember you

yes to all of your questions

Good to have you back.

Welcome Tablefor3, when I saw the occupational therapist at work she said that quite often short people are big and taller people carry smaller as they have more body up top to spread out over. Try not to worry about it.
Lacks for you what an awful few days you have had. Hope you perk up soon. Enjoy your wine and chocs.
Hope everyone else with pains etc is getting some relief from it all.
I loved grobags too DS is a kicker and still is so they were a god send in the winter.

lacka - he was not just a GP but was a consultant obstretician (VERY camp too, quite a giggle, but probably not even had to put up with a wife who is pregnant). I think he was offended by my loose, flowing top and wanted me to look more like the sugababes or something with a tight t-shirt.

Sending big hugs to Daisy (((())))

Hi Tablefor3 aqnd welcome. If it makes you feel better, I am 5ft 1, look like I have swallowed a space hopper and am measuring 6 weeks BIG for dates, so for once, I think size (ie height of the mother) does matter, lol!

It seems all I do is moan these days, heartburn, anaemia and now......Fecking restless leg syndrome. Argh! It is driving me potty! I don't have the energy to keep getting up and walking around and I am keeping myself and to some extent dh awake at night with my constant fidgetting. I had it with my other pregnancies as well and know that it will get worse before it gets better. I just want to whine about it, lol!

just catching up with everything, big hugs to everyone feeling
hope your chocs and wine help lacks

im giggling at you and your sugababes MM

ive been looking at monitors too and cant see much differene between the £40-50 ones and the £100 ones to be honest.

off to bed now, night night ladies

lacks - hope you better soon.

Hi ladies,

We have dh's best pal staying at the mo so just thought I'd have a quick look in while they're at the pub!!

Sorry about the aches and pains Think I'm doing quite well in that department, occasionally get sore ribs and a bit of sciatica but nothing too horendous!

merry Your bump is brill and what a beautiful boy you have

I bet everyones in bed

Think I'm v. lucky in the inlaw department. I told mil that she must come and stay with us when the baby's here and she said she would love to but after me and dh had had lots of time with the baby to ourselves. Pils live in France so we don't see them ver oftenbut they are such lovely people!

Am also feeling a bit worried about the birth - more to do with something going wrong than the fear of pain (although not looking forward to that either!!)

Anyway best get myself off to bed before the boys get home!

Night x

Welcome Tablefor3
Daisy How are you feeling now? Hope the pain has eased and that you manage to get to the dr's this morning. It sounds horrendous
Roca Welcome back

Trying to respond to all posts. Can't.
Thanks Daisy for cot link. I have replied. I need one. My sil has not been forthcoming about giving my old cot back. Dh has forbidden me from mentioning it when we go and stay with her this Bank hol weekend. Other sil hasn't offered her cot. Well cross.

Oh Daisy. Your pains sound horrific.
And Ceebee, with stupid woman reversing into car.
And all other aches and pains.

Welcome Tablefor3.

I, like Dozy love growbags. Did I tell you that I returned my baby monitor , like MerryM, within a few weeks. Didn't need it. I could hear ever moan and groan ds made. I'm not buying one this time.

Visitors ? I never got hardly any. Like MerryM would have liked more. But totally understand smiles's feelings. Would have to forbid them. Tell DH NO !!!!!

Re bumps, Merry's is looking good. I think mine is quite small. Not that I'm complaining.

obs - Can't believe that your SIL in law hasnt even asked you if you want YOUR cot back! Sorry trying to remember (always had bad memory but got worse since pregnancy) ... is it your SIL that had a miscarriage recently? If it is I can understand DH not wanting you to mention it because she might still be suffering and giving up the cot might be like giving up on the idea (in her head). Saying that whether she intends to use it in the future or you should say something as nicely as possible just judge your timing. Maybe even drop hints that you have got to go and buy a cot because she may just not have thought about it.

"use it in the future or not" NOT "future or you" - DUH!

Vbab, my sil( the one who has recently had the mc) said to my other sil, oh oblomov doesn't need her cot anymore. Thus it was given to my nephew and his gf. Whose son is now 1.5. It is a cotbed and when I gently asked gf, last time I saw her, she said they were still using it.

So then sil(mc) said we could have hers. Then she withtrackted the offer, when she found out she was pg.

All very complicated. But I just want my old cotbed back. But dh has forbidden me form mentioning it.

obs, if the cot on here doesn't work out, gumtree.com have loads in London area and often quite cheap. Prob get one for my parents place from there, cheaper than ebay I reckon.

I feel really sick today and very tired. This is weird, haven't felt sick since first trimester (though I never threw up). Trying not to worry...I'm sure it's normal. Anyway, got appointment at diabetic clinic later, so I will be at the hospital.

Morning all - I can't keep up with the comments since I last looked - DH and I had a long weekend as next weekend he is working away and we realised that it was our last holiday days EVER with just us 2!! We had a lovely time and got lots of house things done including the finishing touches in the nursery. Now I just need the cushions my mum has made and a throw for the daybed and we are ready to welcome bump - well materially that is, not mentally!!

OK - so here's the catch up I can do...

Welcome tablefor3 (like the name BTW!) I have nothing helpful to add on baby sizes, being very inexperienced in all this but I know lots of ladies on here have great advice so I hope you find it useful. Do you want me to add you to our Nov stats list?

Daisy sorry you've had a tough few days - lets hope that as D:Rream said "Things can only get better"!

I saw someone mention baby monitors - a friend recommended to me getting a TV version, I know they are more expensive but apparently its good if baby is upstairs and you are downstairs (or vice versa) so you can see whats happening rather than going up/down for every sound. Anyone else tried one of these?

Re: visitors I want to be on my own with DH and LO for the first few days so we can get a bit comfortable with what we are doing rather than feel consious that other people are about so we have agreed with my mum that she will come down as soon as it is born for 1/2 hours and then go away again - then she will probs come to stay after 3/4 days. I can talk to my mum so she was completely fine with me asking her this but we haven't broached the subject with the in laws yet - I'm leaving that to DH! My SIL wasn't having any of it when I told her but now she has booked her wedding in Barbados flying out on 2 Nov (my EDD is 1st) so that one should be covered now! I am charging DH with being the one to tell people that they have to leave - but I can just imagine me being like Merry in wanting people to come visit!

Sorry for long post and sorry if I missed anything/one important! Have a good day all! x

Oblomov that must be really annoying - to have a cot but to have to consider buying another.

Hope all the aches and pains are feeling better.

I think who ever said 'height matters' is correct. I am 5'2 and look like my bump is huge. My 2 friends who had babies recently are a lot taller and always looked very neat.

As regards visitors I am inclined to tell everyone to stay away for a few days this time. I had dd at 7.30am on a Saturday morning and I suppose because it was the weekend loads of people visited me that day, unannounced. I was breastfeeding dd at it was really difficult to get going with all the interruptions. I ended up totally exhausted. To top it all the day I came home from hospital my sister, bil and their 3 kids came to visit and stayed for hours.

morning all

things are a bit easier this morning, but am still trying to see the doc to demand a physio referral. I have called this morning and the only thing they could offer me was a cancellation at 9:45 (this was less than five minutes ago). We are still in PJs and DD has just gone down for a nap so no way I could make it there in 20 minutes. She said they have no appointments left for this week, just on the day appointments so wanted me to call back tomorrow. I had a right go at her as that's exactly what I was told yesterday. She conceded, after I had burst into tears , that the "best she could do" was to get the doctor to call me for a telephone consultation. Why the fuck didn't she offer that up as a possibility earlier? I hate the way you have to beg Drs receptionists for appointments. They are usually pretty good at my surgery but things have been getting worse recently.

Oblomov, that's a bummer re your cot. Your nephew and his gf should go and buy a junior bed for their DC and graciously give you your cot back.
Saying that though, I have done similar with a walker thing we were given for DD. It came to us with a bunch of stuff from MILs next door neighbour. I have lent it to my friend now DD is walking, with a view to getting it back when virgil needs it. Then MIL asked for it back the other week for my nephews to use. Apparently she had bought it for BILs DD when she was little, and it was only on loan to us (no-one told me that though and I assumed it had come from the next door neighbour and was mine to do what I wanted with). Anyhoo I told MIL that it would be a bit awkward to ask for it back and get the feeling she is less than impressed. But, she should have made it clear that it was only on loan.

We will be banning visitors for a few days too. It was fine seeing people when I was in the hospital as they only stay for a bit, but I got home on the Friday and PILs and BIL, SIL and DN all came over on the Sunday and stayed for hours and I ended up making tea for them (DH and his dad had disappeared to the garage ), even though I could hardly walk after my section. MIL wouldn't relinquish hold either, even though DD was screaming and my boobs were starting to leak. I just wanted to tell them all the F right off and leave me alone. I would like a full week without visitors this time around, or if people do come they do it on the understanding that they make their own cups of tea and only stay for an hour, or that they entertain the other DCs while they are here.

Gawd, I'm in a grumpy mood today

obs - difficult one. I would ask for it back personally as no point you potentially buying one then getting YOURS back eventually for no use and just in the way. Tell them this if they dont understand tough it is YOURS not theirs and you are not doing it to be nasty it is necessity. It was only a loan.

BUT they might see it as its a COT BED which really means you were lending it them as long as needed (2yrs +).

I would warn them that you would require it back when baby outgrown the moses basket or whatever baby is going in so in approx 6 months (?) when their DS is 2. You can do the math.

I will be on my own. Bored TITLESS. In Kings hospital for 5 days. Dh will come when he can. I don't think my mum will be well enought to come, becasue she will be having thyroid treatment.
What I wouldn't give to have hoards of visitors.
Funny, how different we all are.

Two of my friends say there is an 'unsaid rule'. If you lend someone something ,babywise'. If they fall pregnant, it should be offered to be returned.
That is the rule. Apprarently.
Hasn't happened to me !!!!!

I want my Cotbed NOW
I want ds to go in it, as soon as he gets home from hospital. With ds1, we swaddled him and put him in cotbed, from day 2.
We also had 2 moses baskets, but he liked being in cot, straight fromt he start.

I agree with that unsaid rule obs.......but my MIL made me think that the walker had been given to us by her next door neighbour, so doesn't count

Yay, I have got my physio referral. I can take co-codamol since paracetomol wasn't doing any good. She seemed quite, "oh, well you;re pregnent what can we do?" about it, but surely legs collapsing under you isn't that common in pregnancy. And I'm not convinced that the burning pain at my hip is anything to do with the ligaments, having been bothered with ligament pain before.

I feel like a bloody wreck.

Obs, if I was anywhere near Kings, I would come and visit you

FANKS Daisy

We are having our carpet fitted in spare room, this pm. Hoorah.
Just need a cotbed to go in it now.

lacks - what a nasty lot of inconsiderate in laws! I would NOT have made their tea and took baby off MIL and gone to another part of the house for a long time! Hoping they take the hint but knowing my in laws they probably wouldnt.

My parents, in laws and friends were quite good from what I remember . However my in laws are lovely people but at the same time they quite often just dont think about anyone else's feelings even sometimes after being told. THEY ARE THE CENTRE OF THE UNIVERSE. Only them and what they want to do matters. Still trying to beat that streak out of DH which he has been taught through his life.

The worst time is when it comes to buying presents as it doesnt matter what others ,including me and DH, are buying they will buy the same and tell us to get something else OR buy something very over the top and unnecessary.

Also on the very, very rare occasions they have DS (in the day but have other grand children all the time day and night) and they expect you to get him ready with 5 mins notice but you might have plans.

My parents are fantastic in every possible way. The complete opposite and often have to change their plans or purchases because the in laws who have very little in comparison to do with DS take over.

ARGGGGHHHHHHHH! In laws. Trust me for how lovely they are there is a lot of s**t me and DH put up with too. Causes a lot of arguements with DH.

Sorry for the rant!