Due in Jan 2009 - Grumps, bumps and heffalumps (the 3rd thread)

[LenniEd]

He he Loved that idea FLF!

Happy to hear good scan news.

Ginni, yep I'm shattered too, and there's no chance to rest right now because ds is a bit poorly and being a grump. Argh it would be lovely to have some energy huh? Please tell me you are putting your feet up if you get the chance, it would be criminal not to!

I'm feeling a bit teary tonight, dh reckons we can't afford to have the homebirth I've been hoping for - ideally wanted a birth pool, and a doula (mainly, if I'm honest, to help with ds, and we'd need her postnatally too because no family nearby or friends that we're close enough too).
We're really sturggling with money; dh is sef employed and works freelance, and hasn't been able to get a job since March. My salary covers the mortgage, household bills and running the car, and leaves us with only £200 every month for food and other stuff. It is a bit of a shock, this skintness, as last year dh earned more than me and we were comfy, money wise. Why do these things always happen at the WORST times??
Sorry. enough moaning.
I'm off to make cauli cheese and baked potatoes for dinner! Hope you're all eating tasty comfort food in this horrid weather too

Hi

Hasn't it been quiet on here this weekend.

Spink, I am with you, we are in a similar financial situation having lost 3 large freelance contracts and then the bonus from DH's 'employed' job as well. We are literally thousands of pounds down on what we were expecting to have and all our plans have gone down the toilet as a result. I've been in tears about it as well so you have my sympathy.

We are currently living in a half renovated property with bare plaster walls in the living room, bathroom and downstairs loo. We are committed to replacing the boiler (has to be done as has been slowly giving up the ghost and costing a fortune to run) and replacing the windows at the back of the house (front ones already done). All the building work will cause even more chaos and affect just about every room in the house and all this is going to be done before Christmas!

What used to be our study is going to be the baby's room but is currently being used to store anything that doesn't have a home as we don't have a garage and the loft is still full of my Dad's belongings which can't be moved until his will is completed (they are currently saying that could take another three years - been two already).

To cap it all my spd has decided to kick in in the last couple of days and I have found it impossible to do anything this weekend because my left hip is absolute agony.

I honestly don't know how we are going to get everything done before the baby arrives, let alone pay for it all.

I was hoping for a home birth with a pool as well, but am now thinking I will still go ahead just without the pool.

Its so frustrating not being able to just buy things that I know I will need for the baby when I notice they are on special offer, but our belts have been tightened so many notches it just isn't possible at the moment.

DH is trying so hard and being really helpful around the house and with looking after the boys. He has cooked a lovely roast dinner followed by sponge pudding and custard and taken the dogs and boys for a nice long muddy walk.

I'm just trying to keep in mind that we have weathered storms before and survived and we will come out of the other side of this as well - and with another beautiful baby into the bargain!

Sorry to moan, just thought it might help if you knew you aren't alone.

hiya moosemama, oh, I'm sorry you're having a tough time too, but thanks for posting about it, it has helped me - so, thank you.

I know what you mean about seeing baby things; I keep surfing the net and looking at lovely things, really good deals too, but we can't right now and unless dh gets some great work, won't be able to.

We've got some things we're going to sell on ebay that we ended up not using with ds; a nomad travel cot and things - and have agreed that any money we get from that can go towards things for the new baby. In the meantime I'm daydreaming about purchases!

This is probably the first storm dh and I are trying to weather.. we're trying to look at it as something we'll learn from and get something out of, but sometimes the stress of it makes it feel very far from that! It is terrifying to really have no money left over after we've paid for the absolute basics.

glad to hear your dh is looking after you as best he can. the way you're thinking about it seems really compassionate and positive. well done lady!

Thanks Spink.

We have spent the weekend sorting and photographing a load of stuff to ebay too!

We've had plenty of storms of varying kinds and degrees. (Been together for 21 years and married for nearly 17 years now!) I guess that helps me to keep things a 'bit' in perspective - hormones aren't helping at the moment though.

Hope you are being looked after as well. Keep your chin up.

morning

get on quickly before dropping dd @ nursery
we managed to sell lots of stuff on ebay so we now have money to get a quinny buzz for new baby
is a great idea.
know what you mean about seeing things for the baby and wanting to get them.
i have £20 to spend on outfits after scan in oct when i will hopefully know gender this time
and then £60 to use in dec on bits

dh has just reminded me that FIL, for my birthday last April, said he'd pay for me to have a session with a stylist (I had just had a mc, and didn't yet know I was pg, and was feeling frumpy so it was a very thoughtful gift!)
Anyway, I've not looked into it and was planning to leave it til after my body has settled into its post baby shape.. but dh suggested that we ask FIL for the cash instead so I can buy some mat trousers for work. I am now feeling unreasonably excited.
Morning, everyone!

oh god I can't stop eating! keep telling myself I'm not hungry but have now got to the phase where its like being on a diet and want to eat because I've told myself I shouldn't. grrr. grump. my bottom has double overnight like pizza dough. how did that bloody well happen?

anyone else getting annoyed with bump touchers? friends who I studiously avoided bump touching when they were pregnant 'cos I know how annoying it is, now come up and rub away, even while chatting to me they don't stop it. GET OFFFF MY BUMP!!! grrr

really, really grumpy today

and fat

grrr again

Morning all, thought I'd say hi to keep the thread showing in "threads I'm on".

Sorry to hear so many of you are worrying about money. I'm not going to do that much shopping for baby at this stage, we have to get winter clothes for ds1, both because of the weather getting cooler and also particularly in tops he needs the next size up (18-24 months). It takes some restraint though when the shops seem to have lovely baby clothes that stop at 12 to 18 months or smaller.

20 weeks today, scan next Monday!

Morning ladies.

Sorry some of you are having worries about finances and such.... must be a scary time with Ohs that work Freelance! My thoughts & huggs are with you!

Fourlittlefeet my bum is Growing more than my bump, i don't havea "proper" bump yet, just look a little round.... as for my bum... i keep catching sight of it in shop windows or mirrors and cringing!

ginni ...let me guess, the Xfactor bit where the guy with the little girl suddenly announces his wife died after giving birth to the youngest one??????? If so... your not alone, i was BLUBBING....and even OH looked moved!!! Emmoitional Trashy TV

oh...and i'm taking myself off to the Doctors, finally, today... a day or two ago a lump popped up in my neck. it was really sore, then it stopped hurting, but is still there, i sort of hoped it would go. But its still here, i think perhaps a swollen Gland or something Blurgh.

Also got a kicking Cold for the second time in a month, and no idea what i can/can't take (have been staying on the cautious side for everything) but it took 2 weeks to shake the other one, Feel miserable!

Going to also tell Doctor about the spots raging all over my back, its new teritory for me- i've always had dry skin and hardly a spot!!!

Sorry to join the rant..... I think we have the PREGNANT monday blues! xxx

ray, hope thats all ok! lemon and honey quite comforting for colds, as is all the lovely autumn fruit about; perfectly ripe pears and discovery apples. though I suppose if you can't taste they may be yuk . could try some crumbles and custard to give you your extra vitamins. I was really spotty on my face last month and have changed all the products I used during pregnancy to be hyperallergic ones. a real pain.

grump

Ok chaps, time to put the colours on:

HeathersMummy - 31st Dec (DC2, DD born May 05)
MsSparkle - 2nd Jan (DC2, DD born Oct 06)
scare85 - tbc
Ginni - 2nd Jan
charmed24 - 2nd Jan
Teuch - 2nd Jan
kidsfromfame - 2nd Jan
okaythen - 2nd Jan
looweeza - 2nd Jan
Ginni - 2nd Jan
blot4 - 3 Jan (DS1 is 1)
NatalieJane - 3rd Jan (will be DC3, DS1 born Mar 02, DS2 born Dec 06)
moosemama - 3rd Jan
Periwink - 3rd Jan
MrsMagpie - 4th Jan
1973magpie - 6th Jan (will be DC3 - Gulp!)
Chefswife ? 6th Jan
MissHairspray - 8th Jan
Hopenotsickthistime - 8th Jan (DC2, DD born May 07)
witchandchips 9th Jan
Nellybell 10th Jan (will be DC2, DS born Sept 06)
scared1976 - 10th Jan
mermaid31 - 10th Jan
Shanster - 10th Jan
Spink - 10 Jan (will be dc2, ds born Feb 2007)
Mel2005 - 10th Jan TWINS(ds born sept 04, dd born jan 06)
nooschmoo - 12th Jan (will be DC2, DD born sept 07)
OutofthisWorld - 12 Jan (1 boy, born April 2005)
LenniEd - 13th Jan (will be DC2, DD born Dec 2006) Also having blue feelings! DH desperate to find out - no doubt I'll give in and let him.
Largeginandtonic- 13th January (dc7 am not listing them all!)
icklepeanut 13 Jan (Son 16, daughter 12)
Stripeywoollenhat - 13 Jan
RambleOn - 13 Jan (DC2, DD born Oct 06)
Poorbuthappy - 14th Jan (1 dd born Sept 04)
llareggub 15 Jan (will be DC2. DS born Oct 06)
tink-15th of jan (dc2, have dd1 3 aug 29th)
Tokentotty - 16th Jan (DC2, DS born Aug 07)
buickmackane - 16 Jan (DC3, DS1 11/01, DS2 08/04)
iwouldgoouttonight - 16th January (DS born August 06)
Chocsolot - 16th Jan
LittleSquirt - 16th Jan
FourLittleFeet - 16th Jan (DC2, DD May 07) having blue feelings this time, not finding out
MissJackson - 18th Jan
MrsT77 - 18th Jan
Happyathome - 18th Jan (DC2. DD born June 02)
ColumbosWife - 19th January (DC3)
MrsAay - 20th Jane
FioLondon - 20th Jan
mrsmontano - 20th Jan (DC2, DD born May 03)
Rrrayray- 20th Jan
EachPeachPearMum- 21st Jan (DC2, DD born Feb 06)
Buckles- 21st Jan
Booksgalore - 21st Jan (DS born Mar 07)
Feedmenow (c-section or induction about now although not officially due til 4th Feb)
LooseyC - 22nd Jan (DC2. DS born Dec 07)
Upwind - 25th Jan
Lizzih1974 - 26th Jan
Oops - 26th Jan (DS1 - 6, DS2 - stillborn 19 Dec 07)
elkiedee 26 Jan (DC2, DS born May 2007)
FYM - 28th Jan (DC2, DS Dec 05)
NoNickname - 29th Jan
Tobemory - 29th Jan (DC2, DS 14 months, Charlie)

HeathersMummy - 31st Dec (DC2, DD born May 05)
MsSparkle - 2nd Jan (DC2, DD born Oct 06)
scare85 - tbc
Ginni - 2nd Jan
charmed24 - 2nd Jan
Teuch - 2nd Jan
kidsfromfame - 2nd Jan
okaythen - 2nd Jan
looweeza - 2nd Jan
Ginni - 2nd Jan
blot4 - 3 Jan (DS1 is 1)
NatalieJane - 3rd Jan (will be DC3, DS1 born Mar 02, DS2 born Dec 06)
moosemama - 3rd Jan
Periwink - 3rd Jan
MrsMagpie - 4th Jan
1973magpie - 6th Jan (will be DC3 - Gulp!)
Chefswife ? 6th Jan
MissHairspray - 8th Jan
Hopenotsickthistime - 8th Jan (DC2, DD born May 07)
witchandchips 9th Jan
Nellybell 10th Jan (will be DC2, DS born Sept 06)
scared1976 - 10th Jan
mermaid31 - 10th Jan
Shanster - 10th Jan
Spink - 10 Jan (will be dc2, ds born Feb 2007)
Mel2005 - 10th Jan TWINS(ds born sept 04, dd born jan 06)
nooschmoo - 12th Jan (will be DC2, DD born sept 07)
OutofthisWorld - 12 Jan (1 boy, born April 2005)
LenniEd - 13th Jan (will be DC2, DD born Dec 2006) Also having blue feelings! DH desperate to find out - no doubt I'll give in and let him.
Largeginandtonic- 13th January (dc7 am not listing them all!)
icklepeanut 13 Jan (Son 16, daughter 12)
Stripeywoollenhat - 13 Jan
RambleOn - 13 Jan (DC2, DD born Oct 06)
Poorbuthappy - 14th Jan (1 dd born Sept 04)
llareggub 15 Jan (will be DC2. DS born Oct 06)
tink-15th of jan (dc2, have dd1 3 aug 29th) would like a boy will find out gender sat 4th of oct hopefully
Tokentotty - 16th Jan (DC2, DS born Aug 07)
buickmackane - 16 Jan (DC3, DS1 11/01, DS2 08/04)
iwouldgoouttonight - 16th January (DS born August 06)
Chocsolot - 16th Jan
LittleSquirt - 16th Jan
FourLittleFeet - 16th Jan (DC2, DD May 07) having blue feelings this time, not finding out
MissJackson - 18th Jan
MrsT77 - 18th Jan
Happyathome - 18th Jan (DC2. DD born June 02)
ColumbosWife - 19th January (DC3)
MrsAay - 20th Jane
FioLondon - 20th Jan
mrsmontano - 20th Jan (DC2, DD born May 03)
Rrrayray- 20th Jan
EachPeachPearMum- 21st Jan (DC2, DD born Feb 06)
Buckles- 21st Jan
Booksgalore - 21st Jan (DS born Mar 07)
Feedmenow (c-section or induction about now although not officially due til 4th Feb)
LooseyC - 22nd Jan (DC2. DS born Dec 07)
Upwind - 25th Jan
Lizzih1974 - 26th Jan
Oops - 26th Jan (DS1 - 6, DS2 - stillborn 19 Dec 07)
elkiedee 26 Jan (DC2, DS born May 2007)
FYM - 28th Jan (DC2, DS Dec 05)
NoNickname - 29th Jan
Tobemory - 29th Jan (DC2, DS 14 months, Charlie)

rray sorry for feeling blue hope that you get sorted out @ drs.
only thing i am feeling blue about is not knowing gender of this one seem to be the only one out of everyone who has had scans on threads i am on boo hoo.
scan is just over 3 wks away so not long just so impatient.
had a dream that we had our 3-d scan and forgot too ask about gender.
this one is so active 2 moves all the time.
relating to old wives i have-

low bump
big bump
basketball shaped
beans hb is 140

boo to mondays.
sorry to hear some of you are having a hard time with money etc. know its a gay thing to say but the best thing you can give your little ones is a comfy ride until they are born and then lol. they know no difference between armarni and primarni!
had obstetrian appointment today and been told to go for c section due to big baby and small pelvis and ds1 getting very stuck. not sure how i feel about it as labour was easy for me and short and do not relish thought of being cut open. still baby comes first so no brainer really. more scans at 28 weeks to assess soft markers and paediatrician at birth.
is anyone having an easy enjoyable pregnancy???!!!
i think we all deserve a huge bar of chocolate.

boo to mondays.
sorry to hear some of you are having a hard time with money etc. know its a gay thing to say but the best thing you can give your little ones is a comfy ride until they are born and then lol. they know no difference between armarni and primarni!
had obstetrian appointment today and been told to go for c section due to big baby and small pelvis and ds1 getting very stuck. not sure how i feel about it as labour was easy for me and short and do not relish thought of being cut open. still baby comes first so no brainer really. more scans at 28 weeks to assess soft markers and paediatrician at birth.
is anyone having an easy enjoyable pregnancy???!!!
i think we all deserve a huge bar of chocolate.

gini and rrrayray agree about x factor. dh came home just after and thought something awful had happened i was so hysterical. should come with a warning - not suitable for hormonal women!

oh yum chocolate sounds like a great idea

qumps, having had a section I would deffo go and get a second opinion and try and avoid it if you can! Loads of stories of people being told this then going on to have normal births!

do NOT mention the chocolate. already had more than I should this morning. the bum is spreading....

tink i have 2 weeks tomorrow until my 20 week scan (despite the fact i'll be 23 weeks by then!!) so i'm getting impatient too. The worst thing is The NHS trust we're under's policy is NOT to sex babies. So i don't think we're even going to find out at that scan! But once we've had the anomoly Scan i'll book a private gender scan as we're desperate to find out.

We are Struggling with boys names, so that is the only thing which is making me want a girl! Apart from that we're not fussed!

Got poss the last Dr. Appartment of the day- 5.20pm. Feeling extremeley sorry for myself. Especially as tomorrow is my university graduation. i got a First class degree from Oxford University, so as you can imagine my parents (much more so than me) are extremely excited to see their "baby" (weird that i'm still their baby, but i am!!) graduate. But as things are now..... there is no way i can go. Unless the Dr Performs a miracle. I can hardly move i'm so stiff and tired and achy and Full of Cold.... let alone drive the 5 hour round trip (and thats assuming i don't catch the M25 at Rush hour, then you can add hours) My parents live nearly 2 hours away, so we're coming from a totally different direction, so not even like they can pick me up and drive me- Then i'd just pull myself together for the ceremony.

congrats on your degree ray, what a lot of hard work you must have put in. would be a shame to miss the ceremony. have you got some nice bath smellys so you can treat yourself tonight and get a good sleep?

Spink and Moosemama, we're also in the same boat so feel free to vent whenever on the finances. DH runs his own business and we have been very quiet in the last few months. Things are starting to look a bit bleak. It's not the first time, the first 2 years he started up were hard graft and touch and go on the finances for a while, but at least then we didn't have DD and I was earning so we knew the basics were covered. This time round things are a little different. We've said we'll ride it out until Christmas and if trade hasn't picked up then he might have to get a regular job for a while to see us through the first half of next year until the new baby is old enough to go to nursery and I can go back to work. Not ideal as I had hoped to keep them both at home until they started pre-school but unless the economy improves looks like thats the way things are headed. Mind you, by this time next year the worst might be over so trying to stay positive and hope we can get by. Makes me yearn for the days when we were both working and money was no issue.

Qumps - I would also get a second opinion. I wish I could say I was small framed (am definately not!) but I had a broken coccyx prior to having DD and there was a lot of debate over whether I should have a cs. I spoke to a very knowledgable consultant in the end who said that there really is little difference in pelvis size between people and if the baby was well positioned then a vb was usually possible. I didn't go into much more detail on the pelvis part but I think it might be worth talking to someone else. There might be other factors involved other than just size, but worth double checking maybe.

Spink and Moosemama, we're also in the same boat so feel free to vent whenever on the finances. DH runs his own business and we have been very quiet in the last few months. Things are starting to look a bit bleak. It's not the first time, the first 2 years he started up were hard graft and touch and go on the finances for a while, but at least then we didn't have DD and I was earning so we knew the basics were covered. This time round things are a little different. We've said we'll ride it out until Christmas and if trade hasn't picked up then he might have to get a regular job for a while to see us through the first half of next year until the new baby is old enough to go to nursery and I can go back to work. Not ideal as I had hoped to keep them both at home until they started pre-school but unless the economy improves looks like thats the way things are headed. Mind you, by this time next year the worst might be over so trying to stay positive and hope we can get by. Makes me yearn for the days when we were both working and money was no issue.

Qumps - I would also get a second opinion. I wish I could say I was small framed (am definately not!) but I had a broken coccyx prior to having DD and there was a lot of debate over whether I should have a cs. I spoke to a very knowledgable consultant in the end who said that there really is little difference in pelvis size between people and if the baby was well positioned then a vb was usually possible. I didn't go into much more detail on the pelvis part but I think it might be worth talking to someone else. There might be other factors involved other than just size, but worth double checking maybe.

Me too on the money front. am trying not to think about it as as soon as I feel restricted I end up wanting to spend it. A bit like the diet/food issue. Really bad as I'm feeling really broody this time round and want to do the babies bedroom (last time we did nothing at all and dd was in with us until we swapped rooms). She now has a huge room with loads of toys from my sister's boys but no decs or anthing babyish or girly.