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Azure · 15/02/2005 13:17

Back from scan. It all went really well. I can't begin to tell you what a massive relief it is - I literally do feel as it a weight has been dropped from my mind, shoulders and everywhere else. My mum, sister and her 2 year-old came, so I had plenty of support. The baby was bouncing around, waving arms and legs. My mum was amazed at what you could see. The sonographer was great - really nice. When I saw a "between the legs" shot I asked her whether it was possible to tell the sex at this age, and she asked whether I wanted to know. She emphasised that it was early stages yet, but that it looks like another boy (as I suspected from the scan). I won't be painting any walls blue yet, though. The results of the nuchal test were as good as I could have hoped for. The standard risk for my age of 1:106 was reduced to 1:894. All in all, I feel happy about this pregnancy for the first time.

leahbump · 15/02/2005 13:19

that's great new azure!

Can I ask- did this pg feel different to last time??

Just trying to guess if I am having another boy or a girl?

Twiga · 15/02/2005 13:21

{{{hugs}}} Azure, so glad that todays scan was so positive and that yo're now able to relax and really enjoy things!

Azure · 15/02/2005 13:30

I can't tell yet if this pregnancy feels different. Last time my bump was all out front, which is a typical sign of a boy (complete strangers used to stop me to tell be I was having one), so it'll be interesting to compare my bump this time. My next scan date is 19th April - seems like an age away.

Twiga · 15/02/2005 13:31

Azure, my next scan is the 19th April too! I'll be just 21 weeks.

Miaou · 15/02/2005 13:34

Glad all is well, Azure! My mum had never seen a scan before either - she was very moved.

beachyhead · 15/02/2005 14:50

Azure, I'm so pleased for you - I hope I get in at least the 200's next Monday. I'm off for half term now so back on Tuesday - I have so many doctors appointments now that I have resorted to taking a days leave on Monday instead.

wilbur · 15/02/2005 15:31

Haven't been on in a while (actualy doing some work ), but thought I should check in. Beachyhead - I had very similar nuchal results to you - 1:130 against an age-related risk of 1:180 (I'm 36). I had the same score with ds 4 yrs ago and opted for a CVS at that time. All came back normal. This time, as we have decided that we wouldn't terminate, I asked for the blood test but have been talked out of it as the fetal people at Thomas' feel that the two tests are so unrelated that it just confuses people more. I think this is bollocks really, just cost saving, but I don't really care as what they have offered me instead is a super-dooper 20 week scan done by a consultant (rather than a regular ultrasound person) which will look for soft markers and other Downs' indicators. Apparently about 50% of Down's babies can be identified atthe 20 week. As I said, for us this is just a case of mental preparation, rather than something we need to make a decision about and so I am happy to wait. In your circumstances, I totally understand your need to find out earlier - I know CVS is more risky than amnio, but perhaps that's just because it's done earlier, I don't know. The results are quick and tho it's a bit unpleasant, I found it bearable. ON the other hand, if you turn the stats on their head, a 1:126 means that there's a 99.something chance that everythig is normal. I doubt this has helped much, sorry, but hope you feel better soon.

Eulalia · 15/02/2005 15:32

jellybrain - how old is your ds1? We've usually had a good fall of snow by now but apart from the one day at Chrsitmas day there's been no snow. Still time yet though.

beachyhead - I am also 39 and haven't had any testing yet but am having the blood tests done tomorrow. I am not having the amnio because I'd not terminate. For me it is just too late on, not that I'd probably terminate at any stage and dh is definately against it. Just getting the blood test done to prepare me if it was a possibility. Hope the next test proves better for you.

Azure - great news! glad you can relax now.

Our half term break has turned out OK. We all had a nice lunch today with my friend and her kids in a soft play area. ds, dd and I have just had a bowl of yummy ice cream. Got the midwife tomorrow.

beachyhead · 15/02/2005 15:37

Thanks - that does help Wilbur and thanks for putting your stats up there - I too was offered the super dooper 20 wk scan, which if I don't have CVS or amnio, I will take them up on. At the moment, I'm tempted by Monday's combined test and if it puts the odds up ie. worse, I'll go straight for the CVS. The amnio is just too late for me to cope with - I need to get on with my life.....

Are you having it at Tommy's, Wilbur? The rate I'm going, I'll be moving in there soon. Still, off tomorrow for a nice break with dh and kids and just forget all about it until I can enjoy it...... Just look a bit lardy, though

Dazie · 15/02/2005 15:52

Hi everyone so much has happened with all of you!! Great news about the scan Azure, Im glad someone went with you!! Beachyhead my thoughts will be with you this week!!

I had a midwife appointment today and heard the babys heart beat for the first time which was great, its all becoming real now. Was asked if we wanted the blood test for downs but I have declined and husband is in agreement I couldnt go through with an abortion as I dont think I would cope.

I have a dating scan tomorrow at 9am quite how I'm supposed to drink a pint of water before then and hold it in is going to be very interesting!!!!

champs · 15/02/2005 16:20

hi all!!
Beachyhead, sorry everything is all up in the air at mo with you. I just want to add my support and fwiw, I was way under the age for worry when I had ds1 and had a scan where the person scanning rushed out the room without even telling me why, and called someone else, they disscussed amongst themselves whispering ( dont you hate that?!!) the told me the water behind the neck pointed to downs, and asked if I wanted amnio/cvs I asked the odds for m/c and they were much higher than baby actualy having downs also with everything else, my age, blood etc being good I was suprised that they were even worried as it is the combined stuff that counts. to cut a long story short I denied the test even tho they were badgering me and called the genetic councillor without my asking for one, I told them that even if I had a downs baby I would be keeping it. they kept badgering me " you're young how would you cope with a downs baby"!!!! when ds1 was born he was healthy so it just angered me that they frightenend me so much. my whole experience there wasn't nice actually, m/w were v. rude, they called out my name pointedly saying miss, and aasking all the time, where's the father and even when i said he was at work they just smurked. even saying these young ones and all that. even in labour they were so patronising one m/w telling me mothers should feel the pain etc. She even wrote in my notes that my brother called her.... It was dh!!(then boy friend) even tho I had told her he was baby's dad! I did look even younger than I was but still!!- sorry got on abit of a rant----

what I'm trying to say, not very well I may add is that although we dont know for sure, the odds are actually still quite good, 1in 126 is 0.8 % so that is that is a more than 99% chance that baby is healthy, i know you will still worry but put like that it's easier to understand than 1in 126.

champs · 15/02/2005 16:21

ooops took too long waffling!!

Miaou · 15/02/2005 16:45

champs, at your previous experience - that's bloody awful! I hope that you never have to go through that again.

champs · 15/02/2005 17:22

ty miaou, I went to same hosp with ds2 (lesser of two evils) and what a diff a ring on your finger makes!! In this day and age it really cheesed me off, so what if you're married or not!!
I was in and out of hosp and had to stay a few times. There was some horid stuff on ceiling on one time I was admited, when I was admitted again over a month after, it was still there!!

another thing that put me off is they mixed up my urine sample with someone else it showed plus 4 of sugar. Luckily i knew straight away it weren't mine as I had been to clinic eve before and had protein in urine, and no sugar at all!! I was under watch cos of protein, headaches, flashing lights, swollen ankle and face and high blood pressure and was told I needed to go back to hosp but I really didn't want to spend night so said i'd go next day which is when the urine was mixed up. The doc said she was going to call diabetes coucillor I said no there must have been mix up as there wasn't even a trace the night before, she wouldn't listen and kept going on and on, I got cross and said i'd do another sample and if it showed sugar then so be it... she said go on then really dismisively so I did and she checked it asnd what do you know... no sugar at all but protein as I had said.
She was all appologetic, student mixed it up. but ofcourse the poor woman who had plus 4 sugar was prob gone home!!

The thing is the actual delivery rooms are spotless although the m/w were odd. I came in ambulance paramedic told them all the blurb and they said they'll get a room ready. I was waiting and one m/w passed me and said whats the matter!! I said i'm in labour what do you think??!!
was put into room, went to toilet where second waters broke which had meconium(sp) went to tell them and they said ok and waited for me to continue, like it was no big deal, went back to the room where husband was and a couple where at the door ready to go in one m/w said this is their room pointing to couple I said no it's not cas my stuffs in there and so is my husband she then looked in and dh was frowning at her!! I said excuse me and went in. I had such a horrid time.

Both pg I said baby was comming and was told no until m/w decided to check. The first time I said baby was coming, fair enough it was first time so I could have been wrong, it wasn't untill I said I need the toilet that one passing lovely m/w said she'd check and then she said she could see the head!!
Second time round they should have known I would now what a head coming down felt like!! I was told no it cant be, and another m/w said she had put scalp moniter thingy on and I wasn't but she checked again and whay do you know? a head!!

Oh I've gone off on one again haven't I
needless to say I have asked to go somewhere else this time, am waiting to see if they will accept me. so I haven't had 12 month scan.

josey · 15/02/2005 18:53

beachyhead sorry to hear your news, i really dont know anything about these kind of things so will only say that my thoughts are with you.

Glad you got good news today Azure and you had lots of support.

Wow champs what a time of it you could right a good book about your times at the hospital!!
I cant believe how rude some midwives can be, when i was pg with DS i was in and out of hosptial with different things, one being that i was lost quite a bit of water when i got up one morning so was sent to hospital blablah only to be told i wet myself to this i shouted back you obviously havent been 8months pg and bursting for a p first thing in the morning cause you would know the instant relief so believe me when i say i did not wet myself!!!

Im starting to feel very left behind as still to have 12 weeks scan and have no midwives or doc appointments in the running, havent seen midwife since 2nd January

josey · 15/02/2005 18:54

whoops meant write not right

hub2dee · 15/02/2005 19:00

Well, I suppose it's time I reared my ugly head and said a big hello to everyone on the August thread... I've only posted so far on the July thread as that was our original dates, but these got shifted to early August by our 12 week scans.

My dw is 16+0 today with our first. We are planning on giving birth at the Royal Free in London. Pretty quiet first trimester, quite nauseous though thankfully not too much vomitting. First midwife appointment (following booking in) this Friday. Hope anyone who is having / has had a rough few months start to their pregnancy will begin to feel a bit less tired and a bit more human very soon

beachyhead - I share the interest in stats, and we went for the combined, privately (£135 I think) with a consultant at the Royal Free. The Fetal Medicine Centre is headed by one of the world pioneers in Nuchal testing and in the interpretation of bloods to assess risk. You will be in experienced hands. Visualisation of the nasal bone does adjust risk IF the software crunching the numbers integrates this into its factoring. (Specifically, I understand it improves the detection rate of chromosomal abnormalities from approximately 85 to 95 % upon satisfactory visualisation).

If you want super detailed info on all this (as I did ) then this page has a link to a rather large pdf which is the training manual for FMF-accreditation

Miaou · 15/02/2005 19:29

Hi there hub2dee - I'm due on 31st July (as of my scan last week) so I should be on the July thread now! But I've made friends here and I daresay I will be late giving birth so I'm staying put! Welcome to the August thread.

bluestar · 15/02/2005 20:51

beachyhead, when I had my nuchal scan, the sonographer said the stats are your own perceived risk. Some people do not worry about 1:250 and others are still really worried about 1:500 and will have an amnio/cvs. Try not to worry too much and I hope your next scan gives you some relief. I guess having a baby is like a lottery at the end of the day.

Azure, glad your scan went well.

champs · 15/02/2005 22:44

lol josey, is that your kind way of saying i talk alot only kidding. I could really write a long book about experiences, cant have put me off tho as her I am again

hi again h2d!!

josey · 16/02/2005 15:49

haha champs no didnt meant that just you have had an awful lot happen - glad it hasnt put you off.
hi hub2dee
well i got sent home today with these headaches and dizzy spells so just waiting to go to the doc's as they want to check me over hope everything ok, i hate going to the docs usually by the time i get round to going they through me into hospital!!!

champs · 16/02/2005 16:10

ahhh how are you feeling now josey? have you been to docs yet? what did he say? I know how you mean about docs tho everytime I went to maternity clinic which was every week at times cos of way everything was going I had to go hosp and then when I went to day unit they admited!! sometimes I just said I felt fine cos I didn't want to stay, silly I know and I got a right telling off from one of the m/w cos I hid symptoms

Twiga · 16/02/2005 16:40

Welcome to Hub2dee!

Josey hope you're feeling better soon [hugs]

I've reached 12 weeks today - Such a relief to have got to another milestone!

colinsmommy · 16/02/2005 16:45

Hmm, that must mean that I'm 12 weeks today (keep forgetting for some reason). Welcome hub2dee. Hope everyone's feeling better that needs to feel better, and to those whose scans went well.

Erinleigh, I've lived in Southern Oregon for almost 2 years, but spent the first 30 in and around Portland and its suburbs. You must be pretty familiar with the area then.

Am cranky today, because DH and DS are sick, and we are supposed to leave Fri. am to go back home for a few days, and I think DS is going to be very out of sorts and uncooperative, and I will probably be sick by that time.

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