Due November 2008: "Now, where is my uterus?...Just above the hair!! "

[Heartmum2Jamie]

Our shiny new thread!!

Like Heartmum, this is my last baby. My desperatly wanted 2nd, and DEF last baby.
I don't remember it being like this, with ds. maybe it was really easier, or maybe that is my tinted specs.
I must, I must enjoy.
Because I will not be doing this again, BELIEVE ME

Blimey Bubbaz, heres hoping it has not been written off. I would have to speak to DH about all that, but from my limited knowledge, that's a keeper!
Tourers are alright but the 3 series have very little leg room in the back. My DH is a 6 footer and likes to lounge when driving, so his seat is practically touching the rear seat.
We are waiting until little legs actually dangle down and then we will have to think about getting a slightly bigger one. I think DH mentioned the E36, pos just a 5 series. Mind you it will always have to be a tourer cos of the dog. But it would have to be a second car cos the 3 series ain't going no-where. DD will prob turn it down when DH grandly offers it as her first car.

Talking of dogs and cars. When we were away on our wee holiday I saw a lady let her dog out of her boot, but it was a fully enclosed boot IYSWIM. A beautiful golden retriever. Then she filled up one of those cans with petrol and put it, and the dog, back in the boot
That poor dog!

LOL Heart2mum, I was really going to enjoy this pregnancy too, as I don't plan to have any more. Not quite working out. It has been a long time since I felt so bad. Prob 26-27 months ago (DD now being 20)
There again I really enjoyed the 2nd and 3rd trimesters so I too am waiting to 'bloom'

poor retriever , but maybe she had part of the back seat folded down

Apart from the chronic fatigue, I don't feel too bad. My hair is starting to look fuller and thicker and my skin is quite good. With DD I was like a spotty teenager until well after 25 weeks, which is making me think that maybe this bub is a boy rather than a girl as first thought. I'm not having any strong feelings either way at the moment, but because I'm not as sick as I was with DD, but more sick than I was with DS, I'm all confuzzled.

I've just eaten a bar of galaxy....and it has just made me want more!!

hope the car is OK bubbaz and not a write off. I'm getting a new one soon as we don't have room in either of our cars for two car seats and a booster. We are looking at a Citreon Xsara Picasso or C4 Picasso, but I really don't want to get rid of my beloved Civic

Unfortunately not. I could see into the boot from my position and there were defo no seats down.

I saw a similar incidence once before, when I was 10 or so, that time the dog was even bigger

As a 10 year old you can do nothing but what should you do as an adult?
I was so tempted to follow her into the shop and say something, but of course chickened out of the confrontation.
But even if you were to report it, very little could be done without the rspca witnesing it, and there would prob have to be 2 of them.

I only hope she, and the couple I saw as a child, weren't travelling far.
But how can people think it is ok? God, you get a dog, you gotta expect dog hairs/muck etc in your car. Or you get a suitable car.

It's quiet here today, isn't it?

Twinkling that is shocking but you are right the RSPCA prob wouldn't do alot about it which is sad.
I'm not really blloming either my nails like Heartmum are fab but I am very spotty and very tired still.

Ugh! I have had a bad afternoon. I am fed up with the NHS, if I EVER do pregnancy again, I will wait until I have scraped together enough money for fully private antenatal care. I am honestly shocked and appauled at my treatment from the hospital so far. Most of you know the saga re the referal for the fetal echocardiogram so far, so I won't repeat myself (any newbies wanting to know, please ask!) I have spent the last 2 weeks chasing and chasing the referal. Last week the OB's secretary told me that my notes had been filed away, no mention of needing a referal. She said that she would get the OB to dictate the letter ASAP and fax it to Birmingham Women's. I called Birmingham on Friday to be told that no fax had been recieved. So I call the OB's secretary again today and actually got......the OB, who was as rude as they come. She knew nothing about anything according to her, had no way of looking up my file (even though I gave her my hospital number) and told me they fetal echo wouldn't be done until 28 weeks anyway, even though I was told in March when I took ds2 in for his check up I would need to be seen between 18 & 22 weeks. As I am 18 weeks today and think that up until this point I have been more than patient, I literally let rip to the OB. I told her the care that I have recieved so far this pregnancy has been diabolically shocking and that she can expect a complaint coming in about my treatment in due course. She did try and say something after that, but I am afraid I was so angry, I put the phone down

I tried all sorts of people at my hospital today, but it is a bad week for getting hold of people, they are off on hols or at home with the kids, can't blame them! The OB's secretary is away until monday, as is the antenatal screening coordinator. In desperation I called the head of midwifery told her the whole sorry story, gave her all my details as well as DS2's details and low and behold, she called me back not 10 minutes later to say that she had spoke with the OB who was dictating my letter as she was speaking with me. It will be typed and faxed tomorrow.

Sounds like a result, but I was told this last week too, so I will call Brum again on Friday and see if anything actually arrives. Unfortunately, according to my conversation with the fetal medical centre at Birmingham women's today, there is a waiting list for cardiac related checks for baby, so it is unlikely I will get in at around 20 weeks, I am away for a week at 21 weeks, so the earliest I could get in is nearly 23 weeks. I realy hoped to have had my my put at ease before we went away so I can finally, truely relax for a while. I am desperately trying to keep my stress levels under control, but it is sooo hard. Like I said to the head of midwifery, it isn't that I couldn't cope with another child like ds2, but knowing in advance would be a huge bonus. Thankfully, I am sure baby is fine, although has been reacting to my emotions this afternoon and had a wriggle about, which it doesn't normally do in the afternoon. Fingers crossed for Friday or heads really will roll.

Heartmum I am that you are STILL fighting for this after the promises of last week. You should def make some sort of complaint. Glad you have got sorted out today (Fingers crossed) but they should not have let it go on this long. Am on your behalf. Hope you calm down soon and relax and enjoy your pg.

on your behalf heartmum.

I hope things are sorted for you now though and that you can get an appointment before your holiday.

Now, try and relax, and take your anger out on the keyboard as you type your letter of complaint

LOL! Thanks ladies! If you hear furious ounding of a keyboard later, it's just me . I had a choccy bar and a cornetto to cheer myself up, lol!

lol at the chocolate cheering measures

My boobs have exploded today . they have been OK so far and had actually reduced in size due to me stopping BFing, but OMG....I'm bulging out of my bra this evening and they are soooo sore and tender.

yup definately 17 weeks, not 7.

Yes, my DH commented on my larger boobs the other day. I thought it was just wishful thinking but my bra is definitely beginning to strain!
Shame I won't get to keep them

mine are also getting to the gravity defying stage again that reminds me of being 21 again

Oh Yes, that's a fun part too.

mine are huge.

does anyone actually have a noticable bump yet? i dont. i havent had anyone come up and say 'oooo are you pregnan' i hope i get one before 8months, as havent ever really had abig bump before.

misdee I was asked at 14 weeks how long I had to go

I look about six months already. I'm citing only 8mo between pregnancies as my excuse

I have a friend and a neighbour who are both convinced I have a bump. I keep telling them it is just relax fat but they are having none of it.

lol hana, people develop a serious case of foot in mouth disease when confronted by a pregnant woman...wait till we all start getting the "OMG you're huuuuuge" comments......oops, I've almost had one of those already

I have a big bump. People say I look 6 months already (not really, they are exagerating & have forgotten what a 6 month bump actually looks like).
The man on my course commented, and the ladies at work said it was a boy becasue my bump is so high.
I am very big. My tummy muscles have given up the ghost, saying " give up now guys, we have been here before", and I am defintely alot bigger than I was before.

Hana, I never had a flat tummy before. Never bothered me.

morning everyone, I definately have a bump but I will be 18 weeks on saturday so pleased that I now have a definate bump rather than just looking like I have gained too much weight!!!

Feeling quite stressed at the minute as we are in process of moving house and are trying to agree a date with the chain of monday 9th June but that is only a week on monday and we haven't packed anything yet as the removal company are providing the boxes but cant do this until we book them, which we cant do until we have a definate date, all very frustrating

Hope to get a date confirmed today and then I can at least feel like I can start to organise things! Although the thought of packing boxes with a toddler under my feet, probably unpacking what I pack is making me wonder why we suggested moving house

Oh please tell me it will be worth it once we have moved as we will have a much bigger house and a lovely big garden for dd to play in this summer!!!!!!

Hope everyone is feeling well today

Oh yes, I have the boobs that don't belong to me (and the itching, grrr!). I also have a noticable bump. I take my piccies first thing in the morning normally so I am not carying around the days bloat. Yesterday I took a morning, evening and letting it all hang out pic. The difference is shocking! Then it starts all over again when I wake up the next day. Piccies in the bottom of my profile (morning, evening, letting it all hang out, lol!)

morning everyone, i too have a bump i'll be 16 weeks on sat. i could tell but wasnt until my mum vsited and went oooohhhhhhh at me and then my friend yesterday said god look at youuuu and touched it that i realised its now obviously out there for the world to see.

Heartmum i cant believe the shite experience your having. i know i am the luckiest in the world to have private antenatal care and the more i hear the more i dread ever having another baby and using the nhs. i truly hope this all gets sorted out for you soon.

Bubbaz,merry and twinkling- my in laws. i dont understand either to be honest. im not used to this in my own family. his sister seems to resent me. she's 5 yrs older than DH and its like she's the other woman. she runied my wedding day in December and she just competes in everything. she is a major attention seeker and so our mutual friends advised that she will be having another baby so it will be her and her newest newborn being fussed over rather than us. currently her DD is only grandchild and evidently min will come along and "steal her thunder". i find it quite sickening to be honest but as recommended by you guys, im steering clear. i told the mutual friends not to visit if it makes it too hard for them and i wont be offended. so they havent!!!

all i want to do is enjoy my pregnancy, not feel like im doing it to piss people off! they have got annoyed as they havent seen much of us. hmmm cos ive been sick for three months and not one of them offered DH a dinner etc, knowing i couldnt make him a decent meal. they are as mumsnet would say "twunts"

morning all...

I feel like shit.

DD2 took an hour and a half of screaming last night before she went to sleep and then was up at 3am, so by 5am i gave in to the shouting and her walking around and got up.

Thankfully my mum rang and asked if the kids wanted to go over and do some gardening, so they are gone until about 2ish.

oh and my nan is staying with m mum indefinatey as they found out tuesday she has colon cancer.

life can only get better, can't it???