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Good morning all you creme egg lovers ( and those weird ones amongst us who don't appreciate them)

Good luck for all the scans coming up this week, and next.

Oooh Bronwyn's nice. I like traditional, older names too. DH doesn't though. In fact he's very good at name's he doesn't like - I dont think he's come up with any names he does like!

we have such different taste it names, i swear we argued more about that than anything since we've been together! dh came up with dylan in the delivery room and miraculously we both agreed. i realised after it was after bob dylan tho, not dylan thomas!!

have to wake up ds now to go to midwife, to discuss the home birth! wish me luck.

Hi everyone!

'makecakes' - I used to get a regular brazilian wax when I lived in Oz, moved back to Uk when I was 9 weeks and it took me ages to pluck up the courage to get a wax, I shaved for a bit but was about 7 months when I decided enough was enough and got a wax. It was really uncomfortable lying on the table, one of those really unstable folding jobs and getting into position (legs don't really go up as they usually do!).
I think it was a bit more inflammed than usual, but I'm not sure if that was pregnancy, a bad wax or because I'd not had it done for ages.

Having said all that, I have been shaving so far but findin it difficult, so I may get another wax, but I'll wait until 7/8 months so I only need to do it once! Sorry if TMI!!

I'm 24 weeks today as well 'goingfor3', it somehow makes me feel better knowing baby is viable even though it is a very clinical word! Congratulations!

Just to add to the waxing debate - I am also really hairy and am finding it hard now the bump is getting so big. Have you tried hair removal cream? You have to be really careful not to get it in inside your lady bits but you can use a mirror to apply it and then wash it off in the shower. That is what I do (when I can be bothered which is not as often as it used to be!).

Sex is getting a bit hard going now anyway, I don't seem to be able to get the right angle cos my bump is in the way! Luckily my DH is quite skilled in other areas !!!!

Rolf, I knew your DH would know mine! Please don't tell him what I just said about the sex thing ! . My DH always laughs at me coming on MN all the time so get your DH to say to him 'so I hear our wives have met on Mumsnet'!!

G43, I am also 24 weeks today and with the twins being at risk of prem birth it is quite a relief, but I think it is still only 50% chance of survival at this stage. Another few weeks and we really can relax! Hope they stay in there a lot longer!

I'm joining the 24 weeks club.....24 weeks today and just back from the scan which was great, despite baby being as stubborn as her mother....see what I did there? Her mother? Chalk up another girl!!!!!! (MCNW now admits that she was so sure she was having a girl she secretly bought a girly outfit for BF wedding- in August- last week.)I think DH is a little disappointed as he had hoped for a boy- his BF and his brother (they found out today too) have/are having boys and I guess he hoped thy'd all play rugby together...But everything looks good, measurements all good, and now I cn think about packing a 'just in case' bag!!!

Then went to my phsio appointment, annoyingly at a different local hospital....was fitted for a surgical brace (very glam) and then sent back to the hospital where I had the scan to collect it. I've literally done nothing all day but drive from hosptal to hospital and pay extortionate parking. Grrr.

Good advice NH- creams might be a mid-ground, although have decided that the pain will be more bearable than the hair of it comes to it!

Know what you mean about sex too- have been ridiculously keen for the last few weeks and though I'm not your size, the SPD has somewhat complicated things. Had a very frank discussion with physio about it today . Obviously on a roll after waxing question!

Thanks for welcome - sorry i went quiet, it's been a crazy week. China Surprise - you have to sign up for a Ravelry invitation while they're still in beta, but they usually send one out after a few days. I'm just now feeling brave enough to knit stuff that's officially for this baby!

MakeCakes, sounds like we're pretty similar - we live in West London but my partner is a Kentish lad originally

Great news G43 what a huge relief for you. And ernest about your move to Munich (bit behind sorry).

Haven't been on for a few days as ended up in A&E on tuesday - Lifted DD up in a music class and my upper back totally 'went' and I couldn't move. DH had to come and get me and get me to hospital. Never known pain like it -even labour!

I had to take Diazepam to unseize the muscle which I was assured was okay as a one off(baby can get addicted to it otherwise) and have been given a course of Co-codamol which I thought you couldn't take, so have only taken one to get me through the morning and am hoping I can manage without.

Can't lift anything though including DD, whcih of course is practically impossible.

Re Godparents/Catholic - our church insists that at least one godparent is Catholic. Which is a real problem as the only catholic friend I have lives miles away and is not that reliable. Think it varies church to church. All way to prescriptive if you ask me.

I have eaten a packet of crisps, two creme eggs and a bakewell slice today....

Congratulations, makecakes! That's lovely, your dh will be delighted when she's born, daughters definately seem to be daddy's girls my ds is a really mummy's boy, nice for me but I think sometimes dh feels a bit left out.

I am godparent for my nephew who is catholic, but we had my bil dad stand in to answer all the religious questions, so unsure as to how important I was in proceedings but as far as nephew is concerned me and dh are his godparents.

Congrats Makecakes - just checked out your profile.... can't believe you are flosspot!!!! Actually it kind of rings a bell and I remember now when you changed your name on TTC after MC. Loving your pics - you are looking very nicely pregnant. So is yours a Clomid baby? Mine too (hence the twins). I bet you were starting to get well stressed after so many rounds. It makes this baby all the more special. How lovely, a girl. I really hoped that one of mine is a girl but after finding out about Theo we are so chuffed at the thought of him that I woiuld be more than happy if the other twin turns out to be a boy too.

Sounds a nightmare Gardenangel - hope the back eases soon. Love the diet plan!

Welcome back Puddock

MCNW - glad you got your physio referral at last. I'm still waiting for mine, but not long now I hope.
On the question of, ahem, "downstairs depilation", I never really bothered before so I'm thinking my pain threshold has enough to cope with at the mo. Have had a sex ban from midwife since a couple of episodes of bleeding (at 11 and 14 wks), though am very much hoping the ban will be lifted next week - so if it's not TMI I'd love to know what the physio told you about sex with the added magic of SPD. Do we have to keep our knees together?

In my church (CofE) you have to be christened to be a godparent. I suppose it depends on whether you are religious yourself but I wouldn't want anyone who is is not a Christian to be my children's godparents.

Cos to me the godparents should be spiritual and religious guides, but I understand why some people just ask their best friends to do it and that's kind of nice if you are not religious.

But I won't be asking any of my close friends or my three sisters to be godparents cos they are not Christians. My DH's brother and sister are and one of my cousins is so I think I will have to ration them!!!

Going way back to the discussion on bravado bras - I love love love mine (the cross-over regular type) and would really recommend them to anyone else with smallish breasts. I am planning to order a couple more to see me through this bit of breastfeeding too.

Strange to hear all the stories about being more hairy - I find pregnancy has the complete opposite effect. I used to wax but then gave up and started shaving last time I was pregnant as I didn't fancy the pain. Even at 9 months pregnant I still managed to shave - I shaved in the shower when I was in early labour before going to the hospital. Figured if more people were going to look there than ever before I might as well ...

I love the name Bronwyn...

GardenAngel - ouch! Hope you're feeling better. That sounds horrible!

puddock - i'm staying away from all family members when it comes to Godparents; it only causes arguments and upset .

Re; sex (religion and sex in one post, tut tut) - am I the only one a bit wierded out by having sex while pregnant. Every time I have tried recently I felt the baby move and it totally freaked me out. My poor deprived DH being very understanding though.

gosh dont we turn quickly from upstanding ladies with organic boxes and talk of god parents to smutty mums to be

On the god parents I havent given mine any as mine havent spoken to me since i was about 9

Waxing if you get it regular think its ok but gets more sensitive as you have extra blood in that area - Im with China I have a trimmer and crank it down to Number1 though you can take the safety catch off for a 0. I used hair removal cream on legs last time I was pregnant and i was allergic to it (but wasnt before hand) some say not to use. I wouldnt trust my DH not to draw a funny shape down there

makecakes congrats on the girl.

Rolf pmsl at your sil

dramaqueen go on what was the name

G43 congrats on the 24 weeks it does make a bit difference in piece of mind.

I had MW today after not feeling well have taken some blood as think my Iron level is running out quite quick as it was fine at Xmas but im showing all signs, plus BP is up not really high but as I suffer low bp normal is high for me- anyway I have been recomended to take Floradix a tonic that is good for pregnant ladies and keeps your iron up. If i dont have a normal iron count i have to say goodbye to homebirth I was however really pissed off with mw as she said as I wasnt scheduled for an appointment she wasnt doing a full check, so I have yet to hear the heart beat and she didnt bother with my pee either

Josey - how mean of your midwife. Spatone is very good for boosting your iron levels. Take it with some orange juice for maximum effect. You've got plenty of time to try to sort it out though.

Makescakes, great news about you having a girl. My girls adore thier daddy, I barely exsist when he is around, execpt when they hurt themselves then they rush to me!

Josey that was pretty mean of your midwife, I have been taking floradix and after about a week noticed that I had more energy.

Bit quiet on here tonight ladies! Or has all the sex, religion and shaving chat chased everyone away .

Just wanted to share that I can really feel lots of movement today. Last night, for the first time, I had my hand low on my tummy and felt a movement from the outside as well as inside. Hoping it wont be too long before DH gets the chance to feel something (although I keep telling him it wont be for ages because I dont want to get his hopes up).

Good news Drama queen about the movements. Last night I was lying in the bath so long the water went cold, because baby was moving so much that you could see it moving from the outside. I didn't want to get out and not watch it move.

How's everyone today, not 100% here.

last day of our holiday, ds3 puked in the lift on the way to breakfast, had a row with dh last night and still feeling grumpy with him this am, tho he claims to be feeling poorly too, so wasn't allowed to be tooo arsey with him, and so looks like our trip to Munich tomorrow is off. and cos ds3 is poorly he's banished from any of the kids activities, so looks like we've got a rather long and boring day ahead.

Josey, do you actually know what your iron levels are? I've been feeling unbelievable tired etc and have typical signs of anaemia, tho on testing, I'm just at the very low end of what's considered normal. Was it the mw that threatened you with no hb? Seems odd to be talking that way, you've literally got months to get your iron up. just make sure you take loads of magnesium with it or you'll be horribly constipated...

Spent all night feeling baby move and feeling jealous/stressed out I'm still 3 weeks off the magic 24 weeks..... God pregnancy is so bloody stressful, isn't it?

Oh ernest - what a miserable end to your holiday.Hope ds3 gets better soon and hope DH gets better too so you can be more "arsey" with him!!Is it just me or do you think pregnancy gets more stressful each time?

Difficult to say. I find half emigrating to one country then in fact emigrating to another in the latter stages really helps keep your mind off it.

Told the boys last night. ds3 was burning up and oblivious, ds2 seemed really chuffed and ds1 was disappointed cos he was looking forward to learning Italian but stoic and brave in the face of his disappointment. He did though sceptically ask daddy if he was going to change his mind and move us to - eg Africa - in a couple of months

Ernest hope your DS starts to feel better and you don't have too bad an end to your holiday.

I think I am starting to feel the baby move, just little feelings at the moment, at the scan last week they said I had an anterior placenta (anyone else had any experience of those?) which apparently isn't a problem as it isn't too low but will act like a big cushion stopping me feeling the baby kicking until later than normal. Think it will be a while till DH can feel it!

I'm tired this morning, woke up at four then couldn't get comfy again, kept wanting to sleep on my back but if I lie on my back I worry that I shouldn't be! (am I right thinking that? I'm sure I read it somewhere!)

Ladies, can I have a rant about my 'D'P? I left the house this morning, as normal, and his highness was still in bed (although awake). When I got to the bus stop I felt my phone vibrating and I realised it had been going off but I couldn't hear it. This is because I was in meetings yesterday and forgot to switch the volume back on. I had 8 (yes 8!) missed calls including a voicemail from him. I called him immediately and found out that he couldn't find a piece of clothing he was looking for - which was in the wash and I hadn't washed it. He was quite annoyed that I hadn't answered my phone, but there was nothing I could do.

Once I got to work, I listened to the voice message he left which said 'Answer your f*ing phone!'. Needless to say I called him to tell him not to leave messages like that for me when I call him very frequently and he doesn't answer his phone (becuase I assume he is busy!) and I don't swear at him. He said he had just witnessed an accident and had to give his details so would call me back. 30 minutes later I am still waiting for a call back.

I am fuming! How dare he speak to me like that - especially over such a trivial matter? All he had to do was check the dirty wash basket and he could see that his clothes would be there - not difficult. I know now that when I get home his clothes will have all been pulled out of the cupboard and strewn about the room. If he thinks I am going to have any sympathy for him because he couldn't find something (without opening his eyes) he is sadly mistaken.

And breathe.....

Morning all. Drama queen - great news re the movement.
Ernest - you poor thing. I don't know how you do it. Hope DS3 is better soon, and DH - so you can give him a poke!

Have been pondering a couple of questions and wondering what all your thoughts are on this...
(1) How soon will it be ok to start expressing so that DH can help with feeding? I know he'd really like to do it and it would be fab to share the burden (he works part time freelance from home so will be the main carer when I go back to work). The BF advice I've read is unclear. Obviously I want to BF as much as possible, but one or two bottles a day would be fab for DH (to give, not to drink haha!) DLM can you help?

(2) For those of you who've already had LOs and gone back to work part time - I'm planning to go back four days a week after six months. Would it be better for LO if I took a Wednesday off - so that am not away during the day for more than two days at a time, or a Friday off, so that she gets into more of a separate routine for the week? I know work will want me to take Fridays because people tend not to do much those days anyway, but I am pretty sure I'll get my way if I argue my case.
Of course, I know some of you will say to wait and see how I feel about going back to work - and I'd love to have that option, but I'm the main breadwinner and DH will be a fab stay at home dad so I need to prepare my case to work now while I can still think straight!

Any views gratefully received.

Nettie hay. What can I say? DH can also never find anything, but then his idea of looking is to half heartedly lift up a couple of things and then go "I can't fiiiiiind it." I used to find stuff for him - now I just say "how hard have you looked?" to which he says "not very" and I leave him to it. Haha.
But I agree - the phone message was out of order and your DP should apologise - and answer his phone if he expects you to!