Due April 2008 - for our third and final trimester, give us our extra 200 kcals!

[EllieG]

Here we are!

Peachy, yes, I tried it ... but it is really a ridiculous price! Phil and Ted is the second favourite at half the price (which is still expensive).

I liked the Loola, but after humming and aaahing for ages, relaised that with ds3 on reins, I'd be better off buying a good quality sling and a cheap buggy so got a Chico in the sale. We doa ,lot of camping and we slaughter something decent quickly.

Suzem Have you seen the New Phil & Ted due out in Feb I am lusting over one of those even though I already have a M&P Pramette (Why did i buy the pushchair spo early ) Ummm Having had the old Phil & Ted and the Bugaboo I would say the Bugaboo is lovely when the baby is small as the carrycot part is really useful but if your like me and drive everywhere it becomes a right pain in the bum having to take the whole thing apart to fold it! I have a Ford Galaxy which we have take the back row of seats out of so massive boot and it takes up half also you need a whole room to store it at home which drove my DH around the bend always walking into it in our hall! with the Phil & ted they have made a lot of changes to it (I had the first version) the problems I had like the none adjustable handle bar the heavy metal frame and the footwell breaking have all been changed in the new sports model and the vibe is ultra light! (I managed to break my finger folding the older model as it shut closed on it and I couldnt open it ) Hope you dont mind me giving you my view only you dont know until you have one!

Peachy cant you tell him it will make a lovely table cloth after that the kids cant mess up lol!

Scorpio so glad your feeling better have a lovely day

scamp maybe its your bodies way of saying SLOW DOWN i know its easy for the rest of us to say but really try and take it easy on Sunday I did 3 hours of irons and started getting sharp pains at the bottom of my bump I really think it is your body saying STOP!

YES TLSM I can see that working- and such a lovely anecdote for dinner aprties.... 'Oh yes, did i tell you I gave birth on this table cloth... indeed, if you look closely I think there may be a small bloodstain yet... aah yes, there it is..... gosh! going home so early!'

PMSL

(no of course I dont speak like that, I use Somerset slang and say me instead of my, and gert an' all thoze fings dunni? I just type posh LOL)

i did think and read somewhere about temper and dyspraxia. he is just so unreasonable!

i think bugs are nice to look at but a pita to use iyswim. mamas abd papas have a lovely range of buggies. i have a new loola for this one.

are any of you using grobags? i wnt to buy millie some (2?) but will they be too big for first night/weeks use? and what tog?

Lol Peachy but what a way to start a conversation get DHs boss round for dinner!

Scorpio I have 4 two from Max and then 2 new ones they do them 0-6 months some come up a lot smaller than others the M&P ones I have to match the other bits are quite small so would be ok for a newborn and Grobag make them for newborns but I would only get one in that size as their not in them long the two new m&p ones I have I got from ebay and they were only £5 each

I like grobags but haven't got any yet, used them in the past and not all the ds's took to them- will wit and see how they like being swaddled first, if they don't will assume a grobag too restrictive.

Thanks

just looked on bump to 3 website and sys size 0-6 months....is that ok for staright away? also tog 2.5 ok?

and got myself P&B mag today - a thing in there says at 30 weeks our placentas alone weigh a pound!!

We used a swaddling blanket (she was swaddled in thick sheet before we got that) until 3/4 months (bit late, woops) then moved into a thin grobag (one we got free with a Vertbaudet order that was mat clothes and was SO late I had no need for them, so got full refund but kept bag - result!). It was same time of year but pretty warm summer if I recall (2006).

DD was up for 3.5 hours last night from 11 until 2.30 (silly me not going to bed until 11). It's so unusual that I just don't know what to do - find it so hard to leave her when she's calling for me and sounding so upset. Just kept going in (keeping pitch black i.e. falling over stuff!) and talking to her, eventually said 'Mummy's going downstairs to get the nice smelly stuff to help you breathe (karvol)' as she is really snotty, as ever, and she said 'yeah', then pointed with a little wan finger and said 'downstairs', then decided only downstairs would do, sat up, and begged for a cuddle. Being a soft touch, I gave in. Cue more cycles of nearly off to sleep, into bed, stroking, then hands off, just talking, creep to door, out of door, and... WAAAAH. MUMMY GONG! At about 2 was cuddling her, so desperately tired that I thought my yawns might rip my face in half, and she was just screaming. Said 'What's up, darling?'. She sucked her fingers, contemplated for a moment, and then turned to me with a hopeful grin and said/sang 'heads, shoulders, knees and toes, knees and toes?'. I had to laugh. She is just so goddamn adorable!

You new mums have so much to look forward to. It's like the sun comes out from behind a cloud you never even knew was there. (And I'm saying that from work on 3.5 hours' sleep!)

Peachy, it would great way to get rid of unwanted guests.

TLSM, thanks, I appreciate any advice. I will mostly be walking but sounds like the Bugaboo would be a pain to store at home. I was thinking of the Phil and Ted Sport with the cocoon ... but is it worth buying that pushchair for just one baby? I don't think I'll have a second child (well, that's not my intention at the moment anyhow).

How much do the babies weigh now?

(Tenuous link but thinking how much extra water we have on board...) I was speaking to my friend who had her little girl three weeks ago, and she was reminding me of the night sweats - don't think everyone gets them but I was literally soaking the bed through every night last time. Can anyone (who had the same) remember how long it went on for?

Scampmum, she sounds sweet!

babies at 30 weeks are roughly 3lb.

Suzem thats what i said look at me now! We had one with just the one you dont need to buy the double part it was my DH fav pushchair is very easy to push we go to carboots in the summer so brilliant for treaking through a field! also folds quite small. I got mine when DS was about 1 1/2 so never had a cacoon but they do look very comfy

I think the babies weigh about 3lbs now.

I have my 3d scan tomorrow really excited

Your babies might weigh three pounds but with my history mines gotta be at least 4.5 by now

nah VS its just wind

As for buggies arghhhhhhhh I've been set on the Loola for ages but am still looking at websites at least once a day to see if I can find one I prefer.

For me the most important thing is being able to put baby facing me in the pushchair so think Loola is def the best option, dunno if I'll bother getting the carrycot though, I dont think I'd use it.

i got the carrycot, am thinking i will walk quite alot though.

you may be able to get one from ebay?

heart this

but i didnt know about it until i got loola

Link didnt work but I see it said the Ziko, bloody expensive though.

With the carrycot I think it'll be a waste of time, I won't use it in the house and I'll have baby in the sling more often than not, the buggy will be used most in summer holidays when I dont have to lug it about to the school and back so it just seems pointless, by the time baby is using the buiggy a lot it will be eitehr the car seat when I'm out with DP or the rear facing buggy when its me and the DC's.

the loola does lie really really flat VS, and you can attach the car seat so it sounds like you dont need one.

i cant drive so i walk everywhere, takes about 20 mins to walk in to town and a few mins to school everyday, so i need one/want one and will use it everyday so its worth the £££. when she is too big (5/6 mths) im going to ebay it as a seperate item.

I love that wind excuse - surely wind can't weigh anything??

Eek just had email from friend I am spending all day with at a spa (! - lucky me) tomorrow saying that she needs the break because she's been in the house all day with a screaming baby (10 weeks!) that she is trying to 'teach' to go to sleep by herself . Do I have to bite my tongue and not say that I think, respectfully, the poor thing is far too young for that?