Due April 2008 - the food porn thread for expanding waistlines!

[SantasGotABigFatEllieG]

Hello

Well, I just got back from the hospital. Was right aout my cons, she said shewanted to do a CS, so I rolled out my well-prepared, calm factual reasons as to why I don't want to have one, she was still against it, so.............I cried

After explaining to her exactly why I don't want one and thatI know the risks etc she was happier for me to have a VBA2C but still not completely happy.

She did however apologise for uspetting me and say that as I had a previous el cs with DS she assumed I would be happy for this one to be CS too.

She is willing to keep monitoring me throughout the pg and just see how we go, so as long as nothing gets any worse and I go into labour at a decent amount of weeks then I can try for my VBA2C.

She would prefer to give me a cs at 38 weeks (25th March!!!scary!!!)though and if anything (my placental stuff) goes up any higher as it is already high now she has asked me to consider booking in for it.

Scorpio, You can do it!! How do you think babies were fed before formula was invented??? The best thing to do is talk to someone about the reality of the situation, read about it, and watch some videos that show you what happens.

hunkers blog has great links, especially for the breastcrawl video. All you can do is try, and if it doesn't work for you the be very proud you gave it a go. Like scampmum says, good on you for even thinking about it!

33% of women in the UK never try to breastfeed, so don't know if would suit them, I do wonder how many of them would have loved it if they'd done it.

Go on, start a thread, we'll be there to tell anyone who says 'you must do it cos you owe it to your baby', or the opposing view, 'you don't have to try, just give it a bottle, no-one can make you breastfeed' to STFU

don't worry about crying, vs. however i am glad that they listened to you, partially anyway. fingers crossed for you then!
and 25th march is very scary!!

I am NOT posting a thread on it. i do not wish to commit MN sucicde thanks, i like it here! However have skim read the blog and will delve in further later, thankyou for that

and FYI i would have hired a wet nurse because i would have been a rich lady what lived in a big house with stables nd men in jodphurs.

Hello all, a lot of you must be back at work as there seems to be loads on here for the last few days.

Hope everyone had a great new year, weve been away doing the visiting rounds - just friends no family so lovely time had. Until news years day then DS gone down with D+v bug, 24 hours of vomiting and the most horrendous nappies since then and one clingy child. Unforuntately started at a friends house where he vomited all over their bed, cue our time to leave!!

Have spent the last couple of days trying to remove xmas and tidy up, seems to be a much slower process than getting it all out the boxes. That may have a little to do with DH looking after the kids for the 2 days prior to going away and hence no washing/tidying etc got done. Mum popped round last night and her jaw dropped at the washing pile.

Went to the next sale on the Thur after xmas - the joys of going back to work I just left a little earlier - was there just after 6am and got loads - even braved buying some pink outfits - figured if they got it wrong ill ebay them.

Gosh this is turning into a long one, putting my phsio cap on for a while - somone said about their MW telling them to try and stop midflow whilst having a wee ladies please please dont do it causes backflow and increases risk of infection. For those of you with back pain, SPB, SI joint pain or pelvic floor weakness - look for pelvic floor (kegal exs) transversus abdominus or multifidus exercises - all of these will help with core stablity and try to reduce the effects of everything stretching. (Nb pilates exercises tend towards increasing core stability) Right hat off again.

Last thing on the weight gain - think Im heads up at the moment with 2 and a half stone!!!!

I'm in a real state about breastfeeding too, I really want to but with dd it just didn't happen - not a case of bad latch, just no latch - dd would just scream herself blue in the face or fall asleep every time we tried it and point blank refused to even try sucking. I did express for about 3 weeks. I don't know what I can do differently this time, part of me hopes that things will just be different with a diffeent baby.

It could well be different Picallilli, is there a support group near you or could you ask MW for a referral?

VS well done for sticking your ground- glad you got an agreement to give it a go. Dont worry about the crying, I did the same thing about my HB LOL

Hey denny and scamp! Nice to see you both again x

Re bf scorpio - I did start a thread on it actually, and people were super-lovely and helpful and not at all judgmental - got loads of good tips.

At moment I am trying to reconcile my naturally lazy hippy urges re slings and not much routine with my liking of sleep and working out how gina fordish I will be. I bought her book (am I allowed to say that on MN?) and it does look like hard work. But some of it seems to make a lot of sense and I DO like sleep. But I really want to wear baby in a sling and she says not to much. So confused. She does however give some useful pointers about bf and routines scopio, encase you're interested.

Oh, I forgot, I got weighed today, I ahve put on..........8lbs!!!

Be careful with the SWCBN breastfeeding stuff- no idea about teh altest editions which may be fantastic but there was some debate about teh earlier books, specifically routines and BF etc IIRC. far better to contact poeple who specialise in that- ABM, La Leche, NCT I think.

I'm not anti routine- I think they are important post a settling in period. What I prefer though is to adapt your troutines to the natural baby routines your LO will ahve about sleeps wtc, and then work with that. Think its less stressful for all, and I am pro-baby wearing very much, think its lovely- sister is doing it atm and thinks its great. Best to make sure you put LO down for the final nap so they can learn to go sleep I think, but bar that its a lovely way to go and very helpful for bonding.

I think I might hate you a little bit

Oh that was meant for VS by the way

Thats tiny VS- but then yu had all that sickness

No idea what my weight was before PG or now and don't care , will only look at weight 6 weeks post birth and then think about it.

Ellie I too fall into the 'relaxed' catagory but the whole contium concept sling thing sounds great untill 7pm , at the point I love my peace and quiet and all kids to be in bed - poor DD nearly 6 and still has to go to bed by this time (may have to increase it at some stage ). So for me Gina Ford actually works really well although some aspects seem a bit harsh it kind of works for us. Think you just have to suck it and see when the LO arrives which way you go.

Scorpio - I had a disaster bf DD, only managed 3 weeks prior to changing to bottles - I have a bit a a flat nipple problem TMI, with DS the MWs were much more helpful and DH a bit more clued up so managed till 5 months when 'sharp pointy things' started apearing in his mouth and that put me off. Hope it will work again this time as was so much easier than having to sterilise etc

This is what I like to hear. Trouble is, you read these things and they seem to be saying 'Unless you follow this to the letter none of it will work and you will spend the next year knackered and frumpy with a dirty house.' (words to that effect anyway). But I was really really looking forward to wearing the baby most of the time, and have ordered a lovely sling, so was a bit sad at the thought of not doing it. Good tip about the last sleep though, can defo see the sense in it.

Is it possible to cherry pick the bits you like out of someone like gina ford but also introduce the things like slings that don't necessarily match it immediately? I'm so indeciscive - likeyou say denny - love the thought of being hippy Mum, but then want own time come 7pm. Not sure it works both ways. Hmmm. [confused emoticon]

And what does SWCBN stand for?

I'm a bit of a hippy lentil weaver when it comes to bfing, BLW, baby wearing etc, but again, I like baby to have a routine.

I agree with Peachy to see what baby's own routine is and work round that. So although I'm co-sleeping, I'm doing it sidecar with the bedside cot, and baby will have a bedtime (basically after bath, and last feed-which baby will establish itself) all times after bedtime everything will be done in night-time mode, ten from morning it will be day-tme mode. Babies are great at establishing routines and if you guide them that little bit with the night/day mode, you'll find by a few months you'll be able to set your clock by them (Well, almost).

Ha, about my little weight gain, and Ha again, like Peachy said though, I was really sick at the beginning, and am still sick at least twice a day now so I've probably put on about three stone and lost two!

'She who can not be named'

Friend of mine with her first didnt get any books, she is just incredibly organised and found her own routine, making baby wait for feeds etc and bed for sleep times etc, when we sat talking one day realised she had naturally fallen into the GF routine without having to pay for the book.

VS - 8lb theres something to be said for morning sickness

I will have baby next to me for first bit though not co-sleeping. I think I might just try to play it by ear and see what works for me. I do have a tendency to get a bit obsessive about things though - am rather all-or-nothing and then is total failure when can't do soemthing. Poor baby.

Maybe I will just give baby to my Mum and let her sort it out. I'm not qualified for this! Is all very scary.

Just been upstairs and think DS pooed in his sleep it smells like a toxic waste site.

Should I be worried - DH went to DIY store sale nearly 3 hours ago - boys and toys, think he may be spending a small fortune or just browsing?

She wasn't doing GF unless she was eating prescribed meals at prescribed times etc- thats the bit many of us gape at!

Deman feeding very important for establishing breastfeeding in first few weeks, fedding often goes to 3-4 hours after that but really wouldn't advise anyone trying to impose a routine on their newborn with feeding- a few may thrive but many will not. little and often is the secret for building and establishing a good supply of milk.

VS, I suspect our babyrearing methods are extremely similar LOL- I love the cot next to bed thing as well.

I'm sure we will do all this to death in three months' time! I was a big baby wearer (primarily because P HATED the pram and screamed if she so much as saw it), she was in the sling for all of her daytime sleeps but still managed to go down in cot from 9/10ish. She pretty much got into her own routine (I was an on-demand-er but found it hard as prior to adopting wearing strategy she didn't sleep in day so I wouldn't know whether she was crying from fatigue or hunger) once she was sleeping on me, and it was pretty much the baby whisperer eat/activity/sleep thing - I had the book as it seemed most in line with what I thought I wanted but couldn't read past about p.10 as a) it annoyed me a bit anyway and b) she kept saying that the Americans thought she sounded like Daphne from Frasier so I was reading the whole f-ing thing in her voice (grating enough when you're not a sleep-deprived bordering-insane new mum).

I was wondering about being told when I had to eat breakfast. Plus I'm not sure about how I am going to do the school run as nap time is slap bang in middle of it at first.

How did your babies sleep at night on-demand, lentil-weaving Mums?