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SantasGotABigFatEllieG · 10/12/2007 16:28

Hello

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PeachyHasAFiggyPudInTheOven · 19/12/2007 14:48

Eva, whena re you moving here?

Misdee knows a lot about heart problems as a result of her dh's transplant earlier this year, if you have the name of the problem there are also a few mums with DS children who could give you the lowdown on SN kids in the unlikely event that your LO is. FWIW from my experience it's tiring and sometimes depressing but I couldn't imagine even for a day not having them and they enrich my life immensely.

ScamparumpapumpMum · 19/12/2007 14:54

Oh, Eva and VS, massive hugs. Such a downer when the scans don't go well. Just remember they're all about detection so for their success rates they'd much rather err on the side of caution - which means fewer things get missed, but also a hell of a lot more worry for the mums.

Fingers crossed all will be fine. And like others say, if there is anything wrong it's great that it's picked up so early, gives LO the best possible chances.

TinyTimLivesinVictorianSqualor · 19/12/2007 15:56

[sa]d I just started crying at the school, what a muppet, dd's childminder asked how everything went at the hospital and I said fine then ran off crying!
Peachy did they actually tell you anything about it because all I know is I've been refferred. I'm dreading the same happening as what did with DD now (placental abruption at 32 wks) she was in SCBU for quite a while, and was touch and go for the first few weeks, I really don't want to have to go through all that again.

PeachyHasAFiggyPudInTheOven · 19/12/2007 16:08

They didn't pick it up until too late with Sam- although I ahd repeated scans for it with Stirling that were clear. Because nobody picked it up, that was why it managed to develop into eclampsia which could conceivably have killed us bopth so although it probably doesn't seem like it, its much better to know now. Have they said how long the referral will take or advised extra rest or anything? Presumably if you are at increased risk or Pre-eclampsia then you should be having extra yrine / BP checks (both- one can react without the other in some cases) and with us that was every 2 days until delivery.

PeachyHasAFiggyPudInTheOven · 19/12/2007 16:11

APEC are good for information btw

TBH even without the new consultant- chances are VBAC wouldn't have happened, good cahnce they would induce early now I think- 39 weeks ish?

PortAndLemonaid · 19/12/2007 16:50

(DH isn't actually climbing Everest, he's just doing a charity trek to the base camp, going "my, what a big mountain" and trekking back again)

Our leave year annoyingly runs April-March so I'll have very little leave left to take before my ML, which is one reason I'm just thinking "ah, sod it" and starting ML early. I only get statutory minimum pay anyway (6 weeks 90%, then 33 weeks at SMP). If I worked for DH's company I would get nine months on full pay (although would then have to go back, I suppose. But still...)

That sounds scary, VS. Is the baby measuring OK so far? At least (ha!) you've got this far, and you don't have eclampsia or IUGR yet, so there's every chance that if they do need to deliver early it will be late enough that the baby will be fine. It does imply that the VBA2C may be out of the window, though -- presumably you wouldn't want chemical induction after previous c/s (if they even offered it) and there's a good chance they'll want to take the baby early.

eva -- are you still in Austria? When do you move to the UK? Did they give you any more idea of what "not quite right" entails?

MMF -- The W London thread is now lurking under Mumsnet Local -> Richmond. It used to be under Meet-ups where everyone could find it and join in, but MN started encouraging all the local threads to move to Mumsnet Local. Which probably works fine outside London, but within London makes the dratted things almost impossible to find.

MassiveMollyfloss · 19/12/2007 16:56

Victorian Squalor & Eva, I've just been looking at stuff on the internet to try and understand better what they told you at the scans. To be honest I am not much the wiser as I am a bit useless at that sort of thing. From what I can tell though, it is good that they have identified the problems early as they can monitor you and hopefully do something. Or the problems may just fix themselves - fingers crossed! In any case if in doubt of any medical opinion it's always good to get a second opinion. Thinking of you both and sending you virtual hugs.

TinyTimLivesinVictorianSqualor · 19/12/2007 17:05

I've already had my bloods taken and my first date with my new cons/mw/obs team (I have to see them all!) is on Jan 3rd, so not too long, plus they'll have my blood results back by then so should know more themselves. (they took 8 vials of blood!!!!)

The good thing is that so far the baby is measuring well growth wise and even if this is what caused the placental abruption DD was 5lb 1.5oz at 32 weeks, so there has definitely been no IUGR with her or ds. Thing is I've always had low blood rpessure with both my pregnancies as well so I'd be surprised if that suddenly rocketed! But we'll see.

My last consultant said they would be willing to induce me but only with oxytocin so I don't know what they would say with this extra risk, I'll have to speak to them when I go along in Jan.

PortAndLemonaid · 19/12/2007 17:11

No one is going near me with oxytocin -- I think the increased risks of uterine rupture are just too high. I'd rather have another c/s if it comes to that point.

TinyTimLivesinVictorianSqualor · 19/12/2007 17:16

Unfortunately (if that's my only way to get a VBAC) I think I'm with you there Lemonaid. I'd prefer to try every little thing possible to stimulate labour for a week or so before the CS was booked then if it doesn't happen its coming out the sunroof again. Doubt they'd let me have a VBA3C if I decide to have another though so this is my last chance.

PeachyHasAFiggyPudInTheOven · 19/12/2007 18:03

VBA3C can be risky anyway can't they? (only know of one person who's had one though- that had severe consequences for her daughter )

But 1 is hardly a sample is it?

Sam's weight apaprently actually dropped- they reckon he lost a pound in utero. My sister was picked up much earlier though (they kept telling me I was depressed not ill) and they kept her 'going' until 36 weeks, with meds etc before they delivered nephew

TinyTimLivesinVictorianSqualor · 19/12/2007 18:06

yEAH, THE RISK GETS HIGHER WHEN IT'S THREE PREVIOUS SECTIONS RATHER THAN TWO. (oops) So I doubt very much it would even be considered if there was to be a 'next time'.

I'm still quite shocked that they did all these tests and scans etc because they thought it might have been why I had placental abruption with DD but they didn't test anything for DS.

MassiveMollyfloss · 19/12/2007 21:21

Peachy- what were the severe consequences for the daughter after VBA3C?

Bainmarie · 19/12/2007 21:43

Thinking of you eva and VS, sorry to hear not all went well at your scans.

PeachyHasAFiggyPudInTheOven · 20/12/2007 07:47

Sorry Molly, didn't think beofre I mentioned it, but she has severe quadrilateral Cerebral palsy and may not live beyond 10. She is also incredibly gorgeous, I fell in love with her the moment I met her and think she's amazing.

But as I said- that's one case. You need to look at much more than one case to learn anything.

SantasNotSoLittleHelper · 20/12/2007 10:25

Morning all. Hope everything works out OK Eva & VS My family are here now & mum is at school with me today School was shut yesterday & today is last day - yippee

PeachyHasAFiggyPudInTheOven · 20/12/2007 10:29

(BTW Moly she is a MN user and might discuss with you if you did want to talk through?)

SuzeM · 20/12/2007 10:55

Hi, have moved and have not set up the PC at home yet. I must check the SW London thread.

Sorry, VS and Eva, that your scans did not go as well as hoped.

Peachy, new shoes always cheer me up too! Glad your son has his diagnosis.

I have to go back for a 28 week scan as the baby's kidneys are slightly dilated, they said it is nothing to worry about but something they'll monitor. They are sure she is a girl.

I'm going to finish work end of March because my contract ends then. I left a permanent job to take this contract, I would have got 3 months full salary in my old company but I suppose they could have taken that back, as I wouldn't have returned to work anyway. I can get Maternity Allowance, luckily. Selfishly, I am already thinking that I'll miss my shopping funds!

I realised when looking at my maternity notes that I should have seen a midwife a couple of weeks ago, oops. I haven't seen a midwife since 12 weeks, at the hospital! My fault, I'm sure I was supposed to arrange it but just did not know. I have to register with the GP in the new area and was told that he will find me a midwife and we can decide then whether I should go to Chelsea & Westminister.

I am glad to read that some of you have not put on much weight because my dh keeps worrying ... I've put on 12lb but am quite tall and slim so the bump just doesn't show much yet. Someone offered me a seat on the tube this morning for the first time so I must be showing a bit now.

In case I don't get to check in tomorrow, have a very happy Christmas all!

MassiveMollyfloss · 20/12/2007 11:30

Peachy, that is so sad. Was the severe quadrilateral Cerebral palsy caused only by the VBA3C? This is my first and I'm hoping for as natural a birth as possible so I won't bother the MN user in question with my questions which are not relevant at all to me. I was just curious. Isn't it amazing how some of the most medically troubled children are often the most adorable and brave...

PeachyHasAFiggyPudInTheOven · 20/12/2007 12:43

I imagineif its your first you'll be OK- know loads of epople who have had great vbac experiences earlier in their famillies.

JHers was a homebirth VAB3C but I think the vba3c was the main complication.

Anyway-

my new shoes are still next to me LOL! And Dh actually approved . Am trying to eprsuade him to buy the pink ones with silver stitching on now LOL.....

VictorianSqualor · 20/12/2007 12:50

Peachy, I think I know who you mean, IIRC, she says she doesn't blame the vba3c or the homebirth seperately, but thinks that the factshe did both together meant they couldnt help baby quick enough.

PeachyHasAFiggyPudInTheOven · 20/12/2007 12:55

probably then

Now,

jelly frog anyone? DH got three kilo's for 50p from favctory shop at work

eva07 · 20/12/2007 12:55

thanks for all the nice comments, I really appreciate it
I was a bit freaked out yesterday, especially after sitting alone in the waiting area with lots of happy dads-to-be (dp's living in cardiff) and then the doctor telling me to be glad that there were no signs for ds, just maybe a heart defect. don't know how this sounds in english, but in german, and how she said it, it was rather nasty.
well, today, after talking everything through with dp and my best friend I'm feeling better. I'm going to enjoy my two weeks in cardiff and on jan 07 I will ask for another doctor to do my scan. and than we will take it from there.

vs, I do have problems understanding all these medical terms but I keep thinking of you
peachy, I tried to CAT you but I got a not-possible notice I'm in cardiff from 22.12.-04.01. than work for 4 more weeks, and on feb.06 I will be back for good

PeachyHasAFiggyPudInTheOven · 20/12/2007 12:58

That's strange Eva, says OK on my set up

My email is peaches and cream 04 at bt internet dot com

So you'll be here soon then? How exciting!

VictorianSqualor · 20/12/2007 13:05

You too eva, like I said to DP last night though, when he said eh thought some people just got dealt rough hands, at least our babies are alive and kicking (literally!) hopefully anything that does happen we can deal with and we will still have them.
There are threads all over the board that make me think how lucky I am.