Due in June 08 - the rollercoaster continues...

[debinaustria]

Morning everyone

Hope you're all OK today

Deb

Thanks all, esp for your detailed response, rolf. I know deep down that that is exactly how I feel, and why I refused all tests last time, it's just being 'over 35' is really causing me concern. I'm desperate for reassurance, but I know deep down that testing will not bring me that, becasue even if my results came back low risk, they'll still be higher than when I did have the nuchal test with ds1, so that in itself will worry me, plus even a low result isn't a guarantee. I know I'd efinately not abort. Like you say, there's a whole host of things a baby could turn out having that ian't be tested fo, so I gues I'll jsut have to sitck with the courage of my convictions.

Debs, don't know how lang dh will be back over Christmas. Fil will be coming over for the New Year. And it's ds2's birthday on 2nd Jan, so hopefully he'll be around for that.

On Friday I'm flying to UK, just me, the boys and the bump, then a week on Friday we're off to Milan for the weekend, to visit the new school and hopefully see the house dh has rented for us. Fingers crossed he made a good choice. Just gotta wait for dh to come back from the barbers, and I'm off to bed for a well-earnedand much-needed nap

Difficult decision Ernest but I agree with Rolf's advice, it depends on what you personally would do next if the result wasn't good. I know that I wouldn't have a termination so I'm not prepared to run the (small) miscarriage risks associated with an amnio, which means I decided straight away not to have nuchal fold scan either - for me there's no point, it would only mean unnecessary worry if it was high risk with no further action that I could take on it. On the other side, a good friend of mine, older mum, had an amnio and would have been willing to terminate if there was a problem, it was very reassuring for her to find out everything was fine, for her the risk of not knowing was higher than the risk of miscarriage from the amnio. It's all about the balance of risks for you.

sorry x post!

Paromapu, so sorry to hear about your parents in law. That must have been so tough for all of you. How is your dh doing?

Ernest, I agree with Rolf. It's so hard. It hadn't even occurred to me that this bub could be in the wrong position and therefore one couldn't see anything. Do you have the blood tests in Switzerland?

I bey you're excited to go to Milan and see your new house! Wow. That will help you prepare for your move.

Thank you all for your kind words about my MIL. It's made me realise how common it all is. But just a shock for us. Strange how the fragility is brought home to us every day though.

sorry to come in and change the subject but for all those 2nd or 3rd time mums... did you start showing a lot earlier with no. 2? my belly in the past couple days just kind of went pop! and suddenly i look about 4+mos pregnant. i'm kind of freaking out because of my wedding dress... it's not so much the bottom bit which i expected to stick out a bit but the top part is sticking out too! not as one unit of course so it looks like 2 fat rolls but it's pretty substantial. i still haven't gained any weight but this belly seems to have come out of nowhere... think there's any chance i'm just bloated...

When are you getting married, how exciting, and no don't think so is my answer.

getting married 3 jan in canada. unfortunately i bought my dress before i knew that i was pregnant and it's not exactly expandable!

josey - Aberdeen hospital has crazy rules for visiting but they don't enforce them. My DH spend all day with me when my son was born and they never kicked him out. (And other friends had DH's stay into the night - as long as they were not bothering other mums). They also bent the rules for siblings visiting too - I think they just want to make sure the wards are relatively calm.

As for the scan, I would bring your kids if you need to - no one should get upset about it. My son is in nursery so it's easy for us.

Upsidedowncake and Paromapu - good luck to your families! I hope you're all coping okay - it's a lot to take in with pregnancy hormones!

And sophiewd - I definitely by my maternity clothes in one size bigger - but then I gain a ton more weight than average. Other women I know who didn't gain as much weight didn't need to buy a larger size.

Weird, Dylanslukcymum, I'd just been peering in the mirror and going, 'oh my god,' and then I came down and saw your post. I have two Michelin rolls too. I'm normally a size 14 (generous on top), and I think I'm going to have to buy some maternity ear now, as I'm even bursting out of my fat jeans ...

upsidedowncake, i'm about the same, sometimes a 16 on the bottom as i have an ample butt! all my stuff still fits but not comfortably and today i tried on my mat stuff from ds and was quite thankful that most of it is still too big. i do fit in a few things though which i have on now and it's funny how maternity clothes make you look even more pregnant. off to dinner tonight with a few close friends for my supposed 'hen do'... in reality it's just doing something to avoid dwelling on what dp might be up to on his stag!

I'm huge too, and can't fit into any of my normal clothes. And my boobs...I thought they had already done their big pregnancy expansion but when I woke up this morning they had definitely grown again! In a perverse way I'm relieved as it's so reassuring to have a pregnancy symptom. But otherwise they are so huge and ungainly.

Have a great evening, dylandsluckymum. I am thinking of your friend and her family.

Paromapu - sorry to hear your bad news. My step-FiL was terminally ill when we were expecting DS1 and he died a few weeks after DS1 was born. He loved hearing about the pregnancy and I hope your pregnancy brings your in-laws much joy.

Thanks Aberdeenhiker - Im not that bothered about DD not coming to the scan DS is in school anyway and as for visiting it just angers me the tone of the infomation, its supposed to be a happy time not a prison sentence, when I had DD it was early hours of the morning so when I was showered I was put straight to the ward and DH was kicked out so he only got to spend an hour with her which was a shame. I hate hospitals anyway so building my case to DH not to go lol!

Dylansluckymum. DD my 2nd DC my waist ballooned and I needed maternity by 10/12 weeks, I have a bit of a bump forming now but all my clothes still fit me think im carrying to the back like I did with DS. You might need to suffer pull in pants for your big day!
Hope you have a wonderful night tonight Im sure your friends will make it special.

Dylansmum - my bumps goes up to my ribcage!!already!!

have a great time tonight

Have a fab night out, Dylan's mummy. You have probably said, forgive me, but when is your wedding?

Blimey, I'm huge, tho a neighbour saw me tho other day and guessed 4 months, which I was quite pleased about ( I am only 11 weeks). If she's said 6 I would've worried, lol.

I've got to wear my black suit that I got for mil funeral (sorry for mentioning it, upsidedown cake - breatscancer has got a really good recovery rate and is treatable. My mil's cancer wasn't operable, they were only able to buy a bit of time with the chemo, which, as I said, luckily didn't make her feel ill and she coped brilliantly with it) anyway, it was her cremation a month ago, but at the weekend they're having a church service and burying the ashes. I can still get my black suit trousers up at least, and the zip, bit the buttons - it's got a deep, 3 inch waistband) no chance can I fasten them up, so just going to have to hope I can find a top to cover the open buttons as I don't have anything else suitable to wear. I only just bought the suit for her fiuneral a month ago, sigh.

Wow, not been on for over a week and there is soooo much to catch up on, I need to open another window to save scrolling when writing messages to individuals lol . I'm going to try and get on more but it's been a VERY busy week or so with telling parents of mindees that I'm pregnant (all went down fine thank god although my favourite parents whose so lovely and kissed me when I told her has been in a state of panic about how I'll lift her baby when pregnant, how I'll manage nearer the end, what if I have complications at birth etc etc.). Anyway, in proper maternity clothes all the time now, can't believe I currently look like I did when I was 5ish months pregnant with ds!!! Also been VERY busy on building family tree for dh after a cousin he didn't know about got in touch!! What else has happened.....oh yeah.....blimey.....my sister was sterlized with clips on tubes in Sept and ended up with ectopic pregnancy and emergency surgery last week thread here

Anyway...........off to read messages now......

systemsaddict - sorry about your ear, how are you now?

ernest - interesting you're in Switzerland, the family tree I am doing for dh is at a stand still as his grandmother was from Switzerland and I don't know how to find info out for her birth or emigrating etc What a shame about moving, tough one, does this mean you're on your own atm? As for nuchal fold - I decided against and this was why....I asked myself would I have an amnio if looked at risk, answer was no because I couldn't stand the risk of MC after MC'ing in the past. Therefore decided what was the point as if I wasn't going to do the next stage if needed, I'd just end up worrying instead. HTH. This is just MY own reasons, you have to decide what's right for you!

josey - sorry you didn't get the scan date you wanted but now it's only 4 sleeps to go I hope dh can make it!

debinaustria - Wow, your website is fab and it looks such a lovely place to live!!! I was actually thinking about you last night when struggling with dh's Austrian side of his family tree!!! We've also been looking for a village called Hoerdt on the internet but can't find that either??!!! Don't suppose you have any idea how I can find out a date of birth of someone over there? I have the year but not actual date or where they lived etc. I presume you won't know this as you've not been there very long, worth asking though

TwilightSurfer - so pleased you are dealing with the MC so well, just posted on that thread, good luck with ttc

Makecakes - that's one of my main symptoms (plus tiredness), I'm LOVING my food!!!!

GardenAngel4 - same as ernest! I've had a horrible cold but terrible chest and bunged up nose but didn't even take paracetamol (because I knew that wouldn't shift it and I couldn't take anything else)

Upsidedowncake - so pleased you do have a place at the hospital!!! Oh, just read about dh's mum

Rolf - sorry you are having such a hard time but just wanted to reassure you that I only felt pregnant for about a week and haven't since but scan showed baby was fine so now I'm thinking myself lucky!

Josie57 - I know what you mean, I love ds SOOOOO much, I don't know how it will be possible to feel the same but I'm sure I will

China - hope you enjoyed your spa

makecakesnotwar - sorry you felt rubbish for your birthday, hope you got lots of lovely presents!!!

littlewifey - I'm so sorry for your loss

josey - I've had 3 scans now and 2 of the times I've taken a baby mindee with me in the pram. Nothing was said although some looks but then got leaflet at dating scan and says no children

Paromapu - so sorry about MIL and FIL, how awful and both of them

nh101 - lovely scan pics

dylansluckymum - wow, how exciting about the wedding!!! Sure you'll sort the dress out somehow, I've been shocked at my tummy so early this time round.

Right, I had to skim through the last so many messages as ds was nagging and I've been on here for AGES!!!! Sorry for those I've missed, so hard to keep up!

Off Christmas shopping later as my db is coming to play with ds Weather is crap though!!

Have a good day everyone

Just noticed the last copy of this was of an older list so not got my updated EDD on, just updated:

estt - EDD 27th May (1 ds 19 months)
katyjo - EDD 29th May ( 1 ds 20 months)
goingfor3 - EDD 29th May (2 dds, 3 and 6, mc july)
systemsaddict - EDD 31st May (1 ds 1YO)
lazylou - EDD 31st May (1 DD 3.9/ MC September 04)
flosspot/makecakesnotwar - EDD 31st May (1st baby, mc June 07)
laughinglil - EDD 1st June (3YO twins)
nh101 - EDD 1st June (it's twins!, no other DCs, MC Mar 07)
Trix11 - EDD 1st June (DS and DD)
Tizzwizz - EDD 5th June (MC June)
emotionalwreck - EDD 5th June
Kif - EDD early June (DC3)
supperwoman - EDD 6th June (DC2)
Lucy0608 - EDD 6th June (1st Baby)
Debinaustria - EDD 7th June (2 ds's 7 and 5)
ChinaSurprise - EDD 8th June (1st baby)
Josey - EDD 9th June (DC3)
dylansluckymum - EDD 9th June (1DS 18 mos)
paromapu - EDD 11th June (first baby)
sybilvimes - EDD 16th June (2 dc)
Calebsmum - EDD 16th June (DC2)
Josie57 - EDD 18th June (ds1 13 months, mc sep 07)
LittleMy34 - EDD 18th June (DS1 18mos)
babyalfie - EDD 20th June (got 3 DC - 16, 14 & 7)
ernest - EDD 20th June (got 3 dc - 8, 6 & 3)
HeyBaby07 - EDD 21st June (First Baby)
Hoggle - EDD 21st June (First Baby)
needahand - EDD 21st June (DC2)
3rdontheway - EDD 21st June (DC3)
Upsidedowncake - EDD 22nd June (1DS 23m, ep Aug 07)
august26bride - 22nd June (First Baby)
Looneytune - EDD 23rd June (DS 4.7yrs)
GardenAngel4 EDD 25th June (DD 6months)
QueenofBleach - EDD 26th June
Gemzooks - EDD???
Libralady - EDD 30th June (tbc) (DS 3.6yrs)
capricornqueen - EDD 30th June (DD 2yrs)

I'm sorry Ernest. So hard for all of you. Thank you for telling me.

Re suits, were you like this in your last two pregnancies?

On another note, what does everyone think about starting a new thread for us June ladies? It's taking an age to load this one.

Hello ladies. Checking in to say hello and show off my Christmas name.

I'm still sick [sigh] , but at least stopped throwing up. It really wears you down, doesn;t it.

Hello ladies. Checking in to say hello and show off my Christmas name.

I'm still sick [sigh] , but at least stopped throwing up. It really wears you down, doesn;t it.

Hello all
Went shopping yesterday as even though this is my first baby i have already begun to grow am normally a 14 or 16 but none of my trousers do up!! tried on alot of maternity wear but my problem is i have good old big thighs but no waist(apart from now of course!!!) but still all the maternity wear i had to buy big so it went over my thighs and then the waist was huge.
Think i will have to live in skirts til i fill out a bit!! Anyone else have same problem?
Also found out that i am now a size 36G!!!! in the upper department dh is quite smug hehe

Upsidedowncake- hope your mil is ok, dh is coping better than i expected i actually think that the baby has helped loads it wasnt planned but he is over the moon and think it gives him something to look forward too. even if we planned it it couldnt have come at a better time. MIL is also running round when she can finding things for it so it really helps her too.
Funny how the world goes round isnt it?

Well must start writing xmas cards i suppose i send about 60 every year Thinking about sending e cards next year to save paper and time!!!!
Keep well all and good luck anyone who has scans this week.

Paromapu I have the thigh problem, it makes buying clothes really hard as they always have to be big on the waist to fit on the thighs. I've gone form jogging bottoms as the stretch they have makes it much more comfortable.

Looney I hope your sister is ok. I was reading the thread there of what happened to her. That is awful especially after getting sterilised. Thats the last thing you would be expecting after that. She must be very upset, I hope everything works out ok.

Just wondering if I'm the only one having trouble with this thread now it's so enormous.

DH and I both had an hour and a half nap when ds was sleep at lunchtime today. God I feel so much better!

Looney your poor sister, hope she is doing ok.

I have had a bomb dropped on me today my MIL is coming to visit tomorrow expect my face to be like fizz till her departure thankfully its just for a day visit but with my MIL thats plenty!

Upsidedown Im not having a problem but we can start a new threat so its easy for everyone.

Any Ideas for a name? Im usless.

Scream if you wanna go faster lol!