Due Jan 2008 - watch those pumpkin bumps grow!

[Amani]

hello!!!

Pinkelephant... wanted to say something about your dad, but dont really know what other than I hope everything works out how you and your family hope.

Oh Pinkelephant sending huge hugs, the power of the spirit is an incredible thing. I really hope he meets your Beanie xxx

Happy birthday Madmouse sorry to hear about your MIL I hope she can hang on to meet her grandchild x

MM ? I?ll join your slimming thread post Beanie too I?ve been carrying more than I?ve wanted for a while and I?d just gone back to Scottish Slimmers and had lost a few pounds when I got pregnant again

MixedMama thanks please put me on your list. xx

Afternoon ladies. I feel sooooo tired again today. I had a pretty good night sleep last night too. I just hope this isnt a sign of GD .
Hope you all have fun on your meet up.
If you do have one on the 3rd November after all Ill join you on that one if I may.
Did anyone watch Right Stuff on ch5 this morning? They were discussing pros and cons of home births. Wow its amazing how many women are so against the idea.
I clean my flat once a week too. It doesn't take long though. Usualy I do the polishing and scrub the bathroom and DH hoovers and mops the floors. We only have carpet in our room so hes got the easy job. I do sweep through every evening though because of our lo. Hes like a little hoover
Pink elephant real sorry about your Dad.
Your ds is lovely housemum
Many Happy Returns of the day madmouse.
Sabiner could I fit in your suitcase do you reckon? Good idea about the letter from your mw saying your ok to fly.
How are you today Awen?
My thrush is clearing up now thank goodness. Got two more days left of the pessary then back to normal

is sleeping well a sign of GD then gingeme??? I would give anything for a really good nights sleep.

No mixedmamma having good sleep but still feeling extremely tired is. Well its a sign of diabetes in general. That and feeling very thirsty which I have been lately too

sorry was just having a really dumb moment.

Gingme - i meant to sky+ that...doh! What were they saying..the people against? Was it the usual.."what if anything goes wrong"?
Glad the thrush is clearing up xx

Happy birthday madmouse!! Sorry you have to work so late xx

Pinkelephant - Sorry to hear about your dad, thinking of you xx

Madmouse - dito your mil xx

Happy birthday magmouse! r u going to tell us how old, whoops young you are?

Pinkelephant - sorry to hear about your dad, just be strong hun.

Can I join the slimming group aswell please - feel a bit depressed after seeing I am 1/2 stone over what I should be for this stage in my pregnancy.

Right tucking into my houmous again...so addicitve....

No worries mixedmamma
Yes more or less beller.What annoyed me was the ladies that were aginst it either had no experience of a home birth or didnt seem to have done any research into it. I didnt realise how much money it saves the NHS too. Like not needing the bed,lights,labour room,things like that. A lady was talking about an independant mw she had too rather than an NHS one. Wow it sounded expensive when she first said about it but then she broke it down to costing about £250 a month which is less than a NHS mw costs iyswim.
Makes me re consider my hospital birth now. Mmm see how I feel nearer the time.

Well Im off for now ds4 is awake from his nap and will want his lunch. Have a good afternoon all xx

Hope I don't upset anyone, but can I just share something with you all?

Just had lunch with a friend whose baby passed away 7 hours after being born and when she saw my bump it made made her a little teary. Feeling a bit sad now, even though we had a lovely lunch and had a wonderful chat....

That is so sad Amani...

That annoys me too Gingme - YOu are constantly monitored at home for any distress etc..and have a midwife with you from the time you go into labour..then towards the end you have 2. I know you cant forsee everything, but I have discussed this with the Midwife, and she said that most complications you can see well in advance,and they wouldnt let you begin or stay at home unless they were completely happy. YOu have a 50 pct less chance of a c-section or any intervention..and less chance of infection. Does only take one horror story to make you worry, but then again, you hear many horror stories from hospital too....
sorry that has turned into a bit of a rant!! hahaha

Amani - that is so sad x

I think the problem is that homme birth is a little like the BF issue. A lot of people who advocate home birth (that I have come across in RL) are a little like the BF gestapo IYKWIM they are staunch supporters and poo pooers of hospital.

Of course in relaity I know that the above is not true since I have met Gingme and Beller and neither oof you are anything like this. but, I think that is where people get their perception from and they believe that "these women" will do anything to get a home birth including putting their babies life at risk which of course nobody is going to do.

I am planning a home birth and I am on the homebirth UK email group, and there are people there who will have a home birth in circumstances where I would never. They can be a bit militant about it. Personally I think a home birth makes sense, but if you feel scared being at home you are much better off in hospital if that helps you relax. I would also not hesitate to go into hospital if there were any complications.

Reliable research has shown that in a straightforward pregnancy home birth is as safe as a hospital birth. In the end what is important imho is that every woman can give birth in the place that is right for her, home, birth centre, or hospital. Sorry, another rant

quite right mixedmamma and madmouse!
If i dont have a straight forward pregnancy or first sign of any complication, ill be happy to go into hospital..my reasons for wanting my baby at home, is I would like as natural birth as possible. This again is open to change, if at any point i feel i need more medication, I will transfer in..not going to be a martyr! I just think I will be the most relaxed at home, which in turn should hopefully mean a more straight forward birth.
I definately have nothing against the hospital im registered with (apart from that horrific story of the lady in the toilet and her baby),but hope i dont have to go there, as that will mean i cant deal with the pain as well as i thought i could, or there is a complication!
Did mean to tape the programe though, would have been interesting to listen to the comments.

Hey Gingeme ? I?m exhausted too ? really can?t be bothered to do anything else than sit on Mumsnet and I know I should as I have work to do and I am just making my Friday so much worse

Amani ? more humous!!!! I wouldn?t like to sit down wind from you sorry about your friend, so awful . My thoughts are on one of my friends today, she is being induced tomorrow at 38 weeks because her baby died last year at 40+9 because the placenta gave up ? horrific

My Dad was set against my sister?s home birth last year but she persevered and said it was an incredible experience. As this is my first and I have some issues, I want to be in hospital but strongly suspect I wouldn?t be allowed to stay at home even if I wanted to.

Thanks Mrs McSpooky

Sorry to get you all thinking about your weight....so cruel of me!!! If haven't weighed yourself so far....don't do it.

Just had a phonecall from my mum, dad has deteriorated again and he doesn't think he is going to make it till christmas . Can't stop crying....must take deep breaths for poor baby...oh god this is awful as can't even cry properly coz of the guilt...

to pink elephant

sweetie PinkElephant cry as much as you need to, and post as many sad messages as you want. neither you nor your baby will benefit from you bottling it up. Make sure you get support from others and if you are worried about the effect on the baby I am sure your midwife will reassure you. Babies are tough critters. Yes, your baby will feel your distress, but if you talk to bump and send it loving feelings it will cope just fine!!

just wanted a quick symptom check with others on here.

Does anyone feel like there is something pressing on your bladder (presumably uterus) making you need the loo all the time but then when you have a wee it is a really unsatisfying trickle.

I drink loads (I mean water, milk, juice!) so I don't know where it goes !

Dear Pink Elephant

I've had a period over the last couple of weeks of being really, really tearful - a couple of times I got so worked up I had hysterical sobbing for aaaages. I went to my GP and he said not to worry: upset, anxiety, etc. - it doesn't harm the baby at all.

So, let it all out. Better than bottling things up. xx