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Hello
am over here...!!!

Hey MrsMc, just to let you know, we love our bugaboo - so glad in retrospect that we spent the money on it, cos 2 years later it still rocks! Yup, you almost always have the little wheels at the front, and the thing we love about it is that it is so maneouvreable (spelling?!) compared to most other buggies, so I never had a hard time getting it around the shops. Its also a joy to push on long walks.
But we did buy a mclaren for holidays, just cos they're easier to take on a plane...

Absolutely love my Mclaren.

of you moving to spain MrsMCjnr.... i am still trying to think of feasible ways to move to Istanbul.... altho I will still have to deal with snow etc so no beach mode.

They look fabulous as well!

Very of the spanish move MrsMcJnr. HOw's the house move going? You've probably updated us previously but I'm never going to catch up on this thread!

Hello everyone! Long time no see, so much so that you had to move on to a new thread, and I had to hunt you all down!
Heartfelt apologies for being such a crap correspondent on this antenatal thread. I guess real life has really taken over since finding out I was pregnant, and I kind of drifted away from mn without really realising. Just thought I would pop on to see how everyone is doing (impossible to catch up if you arent a regular, but I do hope everyone is ok all the same), and to just let you know I am still around, in spirit if not in body.
I am now 22 weeks, and have a dumpling bump which I am sure will have turned into a space hopper by Christmas!!
20 week scan went really well, I cried (of course! again!) and it was very reassuring to have all the boxes ticked off and to be told everything seems to be in working order.
Like everyone else Im sure, I now feel my bambino moving and grooving away, and I find this to be the most special feeling ever. Me being the emotional type, I love the little kicks and jolts, its lovely when hubby catches one, but its the ones when Im awake on my own at night, or sat at my desk at work, which make me smile - knowing its just me and the bump......I wont go on too much, Im sure you all feel the same too.
I have made two baby purchases - a rocking crib and a pram/pushchair (Silver Cross Linear Freeway in Pischacio - cause we all need to know these things!!! purely for research purposes of course ). Have been busy clearing out our spare room and we are hoping to get starting on painting it next month, before I get too huge.
Healthwise, Id say im a lucky girl, nothing major but the backache started a couple of weeks ago and just wont ease, no matter how I sit or what cushions I have stuffed behind me! Only a couple of bouts of heartburn but do get tired (and also a bit out of puff when over exherting!!).
I have been having a bit of a difficult time emotionally as my sister who has been ttc for a number of years, is having another round of IVF, and she hasnt been coping with the fact that I am prg very well. It has caused much heartache on both sides, and whilst she is civil with me now, there is a huge amount of upset and she is finding it incredibly difficult. She hasnt seen me since I found out I was preg, and avoids all mention of baby/pregnancy/etc and is blanking out the fact i am prg at all. My mum says she never mentions me anymore full stop, and has never asked how I am. Meanwhile, Im rooting for her that this treatment will be her last, and her most successful. Its been very hard for everyone, and not something that is either going to go away or get any easier.
Apart from all that, I am ok.
I love being preg and am already scaring dh by hinting at the next preg!!!!!!
Right, I am going to go and read through all the threads and stuff I have missed out on now.
And Im aiming to be coming on to mn a bit more, if only to chill and try and wind down a bit!
love, love, love to all pusscat+bump xxxxx

That?s good to hear Fluffymummy thanks We do plan to take the buggy on hols in April but am hoping that the baby can sleep in the carry cot so will want the Bugaboo (if we get it) JLewis advised us to put the chassis in a carrier to avoid damage as it is expensive bit of kit to get lobed about by baggage handlers. Can see why a McLaren later on would be better for hols.

Mixedmama ? thanks it can only happen though if we sell this damn house!

Bettymamma ? thanks for asking, the house progress has slowed a little so that?s a shame but we still have firm interest so I guess we just have to be patient.

Ah PCM ? where have you been?! lovely to see you! I am so delighted to hear all is well including the 20 week scan most people who have reported back have told us it went well at theirs too so that is fab, we have quite a few who know the flavour but lots of surprises too! I know exactly what you mean about those private kick moments where everything else ceases to exist around you I?m impressed by your purchases! we are still trying to choose a buggy! What made you decide on the Silver Cross? I am so sorry about your sis it must be so hard and I am sure she doesn?t want to feel that way either and would prefer to be excited for you but the whole TTC battle can become all consuming can?t it, sending hugs xx

Hello All,
Just been soooo busy the last couple of days, so haven't had a chance to catch up on this thread properly, so I'll be really naughty and just agree with MrsMcJnr!

Awen, glad to hear you managed to keep down your croissants, and it sounds like you're feeling much better - Yay!

Naetha - I can completely sympathise, and have my panic moments too when I think 'life will never be the same again after a baby', but then I remember that my life has changed dramatically since being pregnant - minimal drinking, no smoking, consciously trying to eat more healthily and staying away from the seemingly endless list of pregnancy no-no foods - and realise that these adjustments haven't been THAT hard, and I'll just adapt to the future ones. Plus then, there'll be a real live baby involved that I can see and touch, which will be a huge reward!

pussycatmomma - sorry to hear about your sister, and I have my fingers crossed for this IVF round! But don't allow her feelings (which she is perfectly entitled to) spoil this exciting and magical time for you.

Did I tell you guys about my midwife visit a couple of weeks ago? When she was trying to wind up the appointment, I had lots of questions, and she said 'oh, this must be your first time, isn't it?', in this really patronising tone, implying I was either ignorant,or paranoid! I've had two separate midwives so far, and I'm really not impressed - you'd think they would be nice and sympathetic, and LISTEN, but its more like getting treatment on some kind of conveyor belt system. Ok, rant over thanks for listening!

Naetha - did you have a look at that hynobabies birth video link that I posted? What did you think?

Cheers for the reassuring replies here - I suppose I'm worried about losing my identity (no matter how shabby it is!) but I guess that's just part and parcel of becoming a mum. Comments like "other than a trip to the cinema or going out for a nice meal there isn't that much I want to do anymore" kinda scare me though! I enjoy doing lots of things at the moment and want to carry on wanting to do them!! I guess your priorities change after having kids that's all. I should make the most of being a slob while I still can!

Lulubump - not sure if the hypnobabies reference was meant to be for me! I've looked into hypnobirthing and it seems like an interesting concept. I had some hypnotherapy for weight loss last year and although it wasn't all it cracked up to be, I think it did work in a way, and most importantly I was able to self-hypnotise which was really useful when I was in agony with my gallstones. I'm guessing I can use the same technique in childbirth

I see lots of people are starting to get their pushchairs / travel systems sorted out. I think we're going to go for a car-seat that can be used from birth to approx 3-4 years old, and pushchair wise, as yet undecided. The Maclaren Techno XT seems like a really good allrounder for a pushchair that in all honesty probably isn't going to get used that much. We're probably going to be getting a baby bjorn / sling contraption for the first few months, and otherwise most of our journeys are going to be in the car, so a lightweight buggy seems ideal. Also we're not particularly flush at the moment (and I can't see that changing for the better any time soon!) so although I'd love something like a bugaboo or a quinny, I can't justify the extra cost when it seems to do the same job as a pushchair costing half the price. I need to find that article that housemum wrote all those threads ago

Lulu, I don't think I'm any less paranoid this time than either of the last two times. And I can't remember half the stuff. You just can't ask that many questions when you are aware that your toddler has gone behind the midwife and opened her handbag and is sorting it into the bin.

I'm seeing the consultant again tomorrow and I'm about to write a big long list of q's so I don't forget anything. (ds will be with dh tomorrow!)

Naetha, the trouble is, that when you are pg you can think of all the downsides to being responsible for a small baby. They are very tangible, like lack of sleep etc. The upsides are really difficult to describe or imagine. The huge joy and love and pride that you will feel will totally outweigh anything else thats all a bit indefinable.

Ds got up at 5:15 this morning and had 2 tantrums before breakfast but this is completely overshadowed by the fact that today he said his sister's name for the first time.

I'm still wondering how on earth I'm going to love no.3 as much - I should have learnt by now!

Lulubump ? I think my MW dreads me and my questions ? I have an appointment on Weds so we?ll see how much eye rolling and patronizing we get, last time she told DH (not even me!) to not let me read anything that she hadn?t given me ? yeah right! I still don?t know when the parent-craft classes are

Naetha ? my parents were quite young when they had me, I was fitted in around their life and not vice versa ? not saying that they did it right but DH and I both plan to make this baby a part of the life we have, not totally change the life we like ? we want it enhanced by a baby re buggies, we are feeling strapped for cash too but we really want something that will last and that we can use for at least another baby and that works for us ? it does seem that it is easy to make expensive mistakes with buggies!

Hope all goes well at the consultant Fruitful

Hello everyone,

Sorry not to be a more regular correspondent. Have just managed to catch up on the thread - moves really quickly!

Anyway, thought I'd join in on the buggy conversation - I think we have just about settled on the Quinny Buzz. I was tossing up between that and the Silver Cross but I found the Quinny easier to fold and pick up so am leaning that way. Whichever one we choose, it's such a huge expense I'm terrified we're going to make a mistake and regret it in time to come...!

Naetha - I've also been feeling a bit like you, had a bit of a down moment on the weekend feeling that our happy life is about to be turned upside down. And ridiculously feeling that now we're getting old and we're not going to be the "young ones" any more, but the Parents and not able to do all the adventurous things we do now. I'm sure it will wear off, but must just be part of adapting to the whole idea. I really hope we can be like your parents Mrs McJnr and carry on doing some things from our "normal" life with bean.

Have also been trying to plan what we need to buy for bean. We are going out to South Africa for my SIL's wedding in the middle of March - when bean will be 10 weeks at the most. And, thanks to builders who have let us down awfully on our loft conversion, I'm staying there for 7 weeks while they do the building (3 weeks with PIL and 4 weeks with my parents). This means we have to look at travel cots as well as "permanent" ones, think about carrying travel system on plane, taking out car seat for parent's cars etc etc etc. Seems we're going to need a massive amount of luggage! It's probably far too soon to be planning it all, but I just want to get stuck in to everything!

Anyway, glad to hear everyone is (mostly) well. Can't believe some of us will be into the third trimester soon, time is really flying !

Love to all,
BWMum

Just taken delivery of our buggy travel system thingumy. It's a second hand Mamas & Papas Ultimo which is a bit like an Inspector Gadget device - so many different permutations . I had fancied a brand new one (Quinny buzz looked great), but we live in the country and whatever I get is going to be mudspattered and battered pretty quickly, so I figured I might as well save my cash for nice nursery stuff.

Naetha - you're so not alone in feeling the way you do. I think it's hard when you have your first baby in your thirties, as you're so used to doing what you want to - I found it strange enough going from being single to married and having to consider someone else all the time .

Did I miss something MrsMcJ? When are you off? And whereabouts in Spain? I spent a lot of time in the north, and love it to bits so I'm very at you. We'd love to move abroad but have to wait till dh finishes his stint in the army - only another 4 years or so to go!

Lulubump - my MW is absolutely rubbish and has no time for anything I say and always questions why I am asking when i already have DS. Drives me mad. But only seen her twice and I reckon i might see her 3 more times so am just going to grin and bear it.

Naetha - I hope you are feeling better about things soon. Most of the things I used to do pre children was clubbing (alot) and out for drinks and for me they are just things that i dont particularly miss and felt like I was a little over anyway so cinema, theatre and nice meals are probably alot more of what i want now and prob would have slowly become like this anyway. TBH most things are still acheivable they just tend to take a little more planning and it is good to encourage your interests in LO and if it is like that from the outset then they will always be used to it.

BWmum - I think it is good you are thinking of SA now. Once you get there you are there for a while so it may be a little stressful with all the equipment travelling but once you are there at least you dont have to think about coming back for a while.

Fruitful - I really worry about loving number 2 as much DS or vice versa as i feel much more like i will be in control this time and therefore be closer to this one and that thought really scares me.

Any words of wisdom for this ladies.

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Morning all

Naetha you mentioned you were looking into a car seat that could be used from birth until 3-4 years old - I haven't come across this before, could you provide more details? Sounds ideal ! The ones I've seen are Group 0+ which seem to last from birth until about 18 months, but haven't seen anything that's suitable for longer.

Onto nursery things, I've seen the Gulliver cot at IKEA, which is only £49, but seems to have all the features that some of the more expensive ones (e.g. Mamas and Papas £200) - anyone with any experience of using one of these (look at this page), and will it fall apart after a few months?? Seems like one of those too good to be true deals

Morning All!

Awen - Glad to hear your feeling better, must have been a nightmare!x

Fruitful - Congratulations on your blue bean, sorry to hear about PV xx

Louisab - welcome to the mad house! x

mum2sons - Congrats on finishing your dissertation! Big sigh of relief xxx

NAetha - I have been thinking about how life will change too, and how I will cope on my own. Not going to be easy im sure, but well worth it. Im hoping my firends and family will muck in with babysitting, so I can continue some life outside babybel x

Pussycatomomma - Good to hear from you, glad your scan went wel , and sorry to hear about your sister. things have been a bit difficult with one of my firends recently to. She suffered a miscariage at 8.5, but only found out at her 12 weeks scan, Must be hard for her with me pregnant, but i think we are back ontrack now x

Lulubump - I have my midwife apt tomorrow (first time and im nearly 26 weeks!), So hopefully she is better than yours, I have loads of questions about homebirth! How long was your apt? x

Bwmum - 7 weeks in SA sounds fab! Packing will be fun

I have put a pic of the "nemo" nursery on my profile....BIL finished it, I have ordeed new carpets and then he willc ome back and put up the firniture. Very excited!!!!!!!!!
Hope everyone is well, I have a sore back most of the time now..and sleeping is a nightmare..literaly! Hoping its just a phase and i dont start sleep walking again
Looking forward to meeting sme of you tomorrow!!! xxxx

ahh Beller it looks just as cool as I thought it would.

beller that looks just fantastic! Your BIL did a great job, can I borrow him? My mw appointment lasted about 20 minutes, which sounds quite long, but really goes very quickly. I wish I had taken a list of questions - will definitely do that next time to stop getting side tracked.

hello all, am so behind on this thread now
Beller i got midwife apt this aft, any advice on h/birth ques would be good
mm replied on your thread, hope you ok.
Glad you better Awen.
Hope everyone else ok.
I been a little down tbh, went to a funeral of my dp aunt yesterday , think it the pg hormones and the first since my mums. Both were similair age and died of cancer so was really hard to hear her kids. Also dp really upset, and has stopped smoking so he really ratty with me, understandably. So just feel really tearful today.
Anyway enough moaning at least the sun shining but it really cold!

Ahhh Lilyloo... I hope you are feeling better. I know what you mean about feeling hormonal, I can be quite emotional anyway but it really does just get to you sometimes doesnt it.

Good luck to DP with giving up smoking, wish my DH would try some of that.

Hi Lulu

We have bought the Gulliver cot but not put it together yet! However we got it before IKEA changed their cot sizes and it is quite narrow. I think this will suit as it is a little room - I did not want a bulky cot bed as I hope to fit a chair for BF in there too.

The matching mattress was £20 and does not have waterproof cover as far as i can see. But now they have changed the cot sizes I think the standard ones from Mothercare will fit.

pretty much everything in our house comes from IKEA and I'm sure it would last 2 babies worth.

Thanks mm

Goodness you lot can chat!!! only just caught up and its ten fifteen and no work done!!

Nice to read the thread as I too have been feeling uncharacteristically angry and tearful, normally so even tempered i dont even recognise myself - poor dh taken brunt of it and actually had to sit him down and tell him not to worry it was me being psychotic not anything he had done - (apart from continue to be difficult about nursery plans)

I fear the sickness may be with me for the long haul although now more nausea than actual sick and if I slow down a touch and make sure I eat regularly i can just about keep it at bay now - still pretty grim though.

I have also been feeling miserbale about this being the end of my life not assisted by me having to hand over convertible on friday

However i think because i feel that i may not be able to do much soon i am trying to cram as much in now. This weekend included harry potter at the imx then dinner on friday night up and meeting friends on saturday, out with my sis sat night, a long walk sunday, and a practice on my guitar ( I have just started having lesons) and then going out to the Thames festival to see the fireworks on sunday. I am not sure i would have done all of that normally!!!!

As for pain in ribs - yes yes yes me too - really painful my midwife has booked me into the osteopath on tuesday so will keep you posted as to whether that helps.

The good/bad thing about being one of the last ones in our group is that its like having a constant glimpse into the future - you all get the good bad and the ugly before me.

AT least we are all past the half way mark and some of you are heading towards 2/3

enjoy tomorrow night

Thanks Angechica, that's really useful to know - I think I'll go for it! V handy tip about the mattress too.

Lilyloo - sorry to hear that you've been feeling down, doesn't sound like its the easiest of times for you, and I hope that something happens to make you smile today

About home birth - beller, I'd be v interested to hear what your midwife says. Mine doesn't seem to be v keen on it for first timers.

Cot/Crib question - is a crib or moses basket really necessary? What happens if you use a regular cot for a newborn, and just swaddle them up, or use one of those bodycocoon type things? (this is what I mean)

I think a cot is perfectly fine if you dont want to get a crib or moses basket. I found my moses basket really useful for moving around the house and also for the short time that DS was in our room (wouldnt have fitted his cot).

Personally, I find the crib thing a little pointless, for mostly the same reason that people find Moses basket pointless. I was happy for DS to go into cot as soon as he had outgrown basket, which to be honest wasnt that long. the crib obviously will last longer before they need to be moved but depends how long you are planning on keeping baby in your room. Biggest plus point for moses basket i could eventake it to my mums or wherever in the early days.