Due Oct ~sow's a'roasting!

[j20baby]

Hellllllllllllllllllooooooooooooooo..............here i am, sorry but waited for ages for somone else to do it and i can't find it if they have!

Hi all,
Have read all through, what a weekend with weddings, hospital trips and exhibitions!

Have to say MIL wasn't that bad she gave dh cufflinks for his birthday (thur) and they didn't hug kiss or anything -I find it all really weird...(and sad)Sat we took ds swimming, well, dh did. I sat with PIL watching them through the window which was good.

I still can't believe how F*ing lazy FIL is. He made MIL walk to the top of the house to get his slippers, watches her dish his dinner out and when we had a pot of tea at the tble, leans over and pours himself one but not anyone else. Dh and I were cooking dinner and she was really 'worrying' about making FIL a cup of tea so much that dh actually had to say 'well, he'll have to wait.' I know this is all really insignificant but it has been 5 years of this. (are we all like this with our dh/p's? tee hee )

Alice, I was reading a bit of your thread and we have the same problem. That's one of the reasons why Ollie doesn't stay with them for a week anymore as he came back acting like a wild banshee. I then spend the following week re-training him into 'home' ways it got to the point where it just wasn't worth it. We went out on Sat (dh and me) for a couple of hours on our own and she asked what to feed Ollie, I said ham roll, carrot sticks and yoghurt. She then said shall I give him beans on toast if he doesn't eat that? To which I said, if he doesn't eat that he doesn't get anything till dinner. -She looked a little at me. I just don't run a restaurant service, especially with another on the way.
I did let a lot of things go -bouncing on the sofa ( I hate!!), bedtimes (twenty to 9 on sat night OMG!!!!!) and don't get me started on the way he -Ollie- spoke to me whilst smiling sweetly when I gave him THE STARE.
She does 'worry' about him constantly when she's around him, telling him everything is dangerous, which I then have to step in and say, well it's not dangerous really, but you just have to be careful etc and she comment on how much he eats at each meal which gets very frustrating as she doesn't 'exercise' him enough. EG today we did a 3 mile bike ride in the morning + stopping off at the park (No, I am never doing that again whilst prgt as each time I lifted my leg I boffed Henery who kicked me back. It got majorly uncomfortable!!!) when we got back he ate a small tin of beans on toast + pear and 2 biscuits. No appetite problems here. Sitting around the house (as she does with him) means he doesn;t eat as much as she thinks he should.

Anyway, no major arguments, storming out and driving home (yes, they've done that before) So this time it was a success!

SIL from Canada visited last night for a couple of hours which was lovely as I hadn't seen her since last year (she was visiting friends for 4 days in London) She looks amazing for having 2 children though she was a gymnast and a natural size 6 (Cow, but she's actually really nice!!)
Apparently my brother isn't paying her enough attention which doesn't surprise me, he doesn't do mothers day, take her out on her birthday etc. He's still an arse then

Sorry it's been a me me me post
speak later x

Floria sorry to hear your results. Hope it goes ok. You should be used to needles by now . Just think nearly there now
Hugs
lisa

Hi everyone - sorry to hear about your GT news FT. I hope the fact that there isn't long to go is some consolation - doubt it Muppet glad the inlaws were a success.

hope everyone else is ok - I'm pretty tired but have for some mad reason started potty training DS today - decided it was now or never with the next one on its way. talk about adding to the stress! oh well.

Congratulations on a relatively sucessful weekend Muppet! Glad it wasn't the horror story you dreaded and that you haven't gained any unwanted mirrors!
DCs bouncing on sofas is one of my pet hates too;...mil has had her leather recliner sofas for just 2 yrs but the nephews soon discovered that once reclined the leg rests make great spring boards and she allowed them to use them that way! They tried to do the same at our house......ONCE!......She now wonders why our 5 yr old recliners look better and work better than hers and why we dont find the odd nut and bolt laying on the floor!

We had a hectic weekend; most of Saturday with one of my oldest dearest school friends who was up visiting from Dorset with her DP and their baby boy (due to be born 3 days after my Robyns' edd but actually born 13 days before), DH was dreading it because their son has Downs Syndrome and he is frightened because ours may suffer the same condition, I was dreading it because for 17 weeks we were so excited to be expecting together (at our age!)and we both had amnios at the same time, mine came back negative but I lost my daughter a week later, hers came back positive and she had to make a difficult decision, but it turned out to be an utterly lovely day, they are wonderful parents, he is a gorgeous child, Dh got teased mercilessly and became much more relaxed about everything, I just wish we had had more time together!..and I'm so sad that we don't live closer...I forget what a fabulous person she is to be with.
Then we had to go and celebrate Dhs' friends' mothers' 60th which was much more fun than it sounds! The birthday girl had a wonderful time and was still in her dressing gown nursing her head a 6pm next day!
Sunday we spent mostly at another old school friends BBQ (though with such changable weather her dh ended up bbq'ing under an awning and we all packed the house out!)and then spent the evening at yet another (older)friends' daughters' wedding reception which was beautiful; black and ivory, stunning flowers and dresses, beautiful bride, drop dead gorgeous (French doctor) groom...the only black mark on the weekend was seeing one of the male guests pinch the brides veil, put it on and proceed to drink his beer through it...fine if the veil had belonged to her and she didn't mind, but it was her "borrowed" item of clothing and guess who she borrowed it from???? To add insult to injury when she got it back she gave it to her gran to look after, who rolled it round her hand and scrunched it into her bag ...I texted her this morning to say not to bother cleaning it that I would do it...(I don't want the schwarzkovski crystals it is,.. or perhaps, WAS!,..sprinkled with, doused in boiling water or something similar while she tries to get the stain out!)..My fault...I shouldn't have loaned it if I wasn't prepared for it to be mistreated...guess I won't be doing that again

Ds this morning after getting hold of my bronzer brush

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MrsFish he looks really cute!! Wish I had taken pic of ds covered in red food colouring - just wanted to make sure it didn't spread all over the house though!!!!! But amazingly enough its come out of his clothes including a white vest!!!!

Floria - your weekend sounds fab especially your time with your friend. Hope its gone a little way to reassuring your dh that all won't be doom and gloom if you are unlucky enough to have a lo with downs. Sorry about the GTT but at least its not long now.... Not being able to eat sweet things wouldn't be a nightmare for me as I have a much more savory tooth most of the time! I'll just go on about that shall I? Of course my stubborn personality means that as soon as I was told not to have something I would immediately want it but we'll ignore that for now!

Muppet - glad your weekend wasn't too bad. Frustrating isn't it when pil's behave like that. Shocked at your fil - you must find it hard not to say somnething! To be fair to my mil she is a lot better than yours - I think she's just struggling at the mo with whats happening with sil and hasn't got it in her to discipline ds. But as we're only ever with them for a day or 2 I think I will let it ride...

Forgot to mention earlier saw sil at the weekend - she was on a weekend out of the mother and baby unit. Sounds like she's actually doing really well and talked about everything with me. Not in a lot of detail but very positive that she feels able to talk about whats happened I feel. She will be in for a few more weeks as she still has bad days but all in all its much much better than we might have thought 8 weeks ago... MIL is very very negative about it all though seeing all the bad sides and not the fact that she is actually loads better and they are all coping well. Just goes on and on about how tired bil is. To which I tried to point out that thats normal with a new baby even without all the worry they've had and that despite this he's coping fantastically well and is a lovely daddy. She just doesn't get it though.... Think its probably just her personality - the main thing is bil sil and neice are doing well and getting there...

Hope to be back later but still totally shattered despite lunchtime sleep so we'll have to see... Then back to work tomorrow and wed so might be a bit sporadic again! Hope all going well with you - will be thinking of you all if I'm not about!

Hi everyone,

Muppet - well done with your inlaws! Mine are coming up in September. They can be nice and they can be tricky - it depends.

Floria - poor you! I feel for you. I am not naturally very sweet toothed but I am at the moment - but you don't have long to go, at least. And your weekend sounds fun.

Alicet - you made me laugh with the food colouring! and Mrs Fish, your son is sooooo cute!!!!

Inzi - that must be so tough. 1 IS better than 20, though. So hold onto that. She will get there, with your support.

Apricott - good news about the pains!

Lisa - what happened about the caesarian booking?

I went back to work today for first time in 2 weeks (was on holiday). It was fine - quiet and not particularly stressful. I have a question for you experts though - my baby is cephalic at the mo, but it's definitely on the right hand side (mw said so and I can feel so). I have tried googling this and can't get very far but it seems the left is better than the right - is there some sort of problem with a baby sitting on the right? and if so how do I go about budging baby? It's been there for ages... I will ask the mw and should have asked her 2 weeks ago when I saw her but I was too dippy at the time...

Got a breastfeeding class tomorrow. Apparently we practise with dolls. Somehow I don't think this is going to be much use. I'll give it a go anyway!

Hope you're all doing okay this evening!

Hello

LOL at the food colouring/ bronzing incidents. Makes me realise what I have to come!

Inzi - so sorry to hear about your mum. It must be so hard - but I guess she has also done well to cut down to this level.

FT - sorry about your results. . promise not to talk food porn.

Hello mump, apricott, muppet, lisa, nellie and alicet!

My doppler went well today thank goodness. Nothing concerning with blood flow. Next appt is 29th, so fingers crossed LO keeps moving lots and not making me keep going to the hospital.

Hope everyone else is doing ok.

evening all

Choc- i tried to book in 2 weeks ago but it wasnt my consultant, and he refused to discuss it with me. I am seeing my consultant on weds this week, so am hoping to book in this week, and then I will know a date (as long as LO sticks to plan)

I have spent a few hours down the hospital as BP has gone up again, but they let me home as im seeing team on weds as long as I go back if it measures high tomorrow or i get another headache.

Dal21, so glad to hear it went well and fingers crossed your LO behaves itself, wish mine would lol

LOL @ bronzer and food colouring, looks like the kids wanted to change colour today hehehe

Lisa

Good morning everyone :yawn:

Good morning
Hope everyone had a better night than I did.

I handed in a letter from the hospital to my GP yesterday (about the glucose intolerance) and GP phoned later to say she had done a prescription for the test strips for me and how was I doing...I started off feeling great that she had bothered to phone but by the end was so depressed....in the nicest possible way she said; "glucose intolerant? forget it you're diabetic!" "Manage it with diet alone? Oh much better get on the insulin and manage it properly now!"(though she gave me tips on what and when to eat) "Watch how you go and induce you at 37.5 wks if baby is big? At your age it won't work! Get at 38 wk CS booked now!" and "It is all very well and good them keeping you happy now, but it is being exhausted with a 6 wk old baby and your sugar levels still not settled that I'm bothered about..much better you have a CS and feel fit 6 wks later..that's when I have to look after you!"
I had come away from the hospital quite positive but she has put the fear of God into me...I really, really don't want a CS (I didn't realise how much until yesterday; but it took me 3 months to completely recover from a 4" appendectomy 20 yrs ago I shudder to think how long it would take for me to be able to sing properly again after a full width incision. [frightened emoticon])
What is more, I did as she suggested last night and had some museli for supper (not a meal I usually have) and suffered all night with reflux and indigestionAnd when I did sleep I had nightmares about being in the operating theatre, blood everywhere because of the heparin and them needing to open me lenghtways as well because baby was so big and Dh no where to be seen...What is worse; my glucose was too high this morning so having a supper didn't do any good.

Sorry for whingy post..I'm tired ..and Dh has just gone off to Sweden until Friday....and it looks like it is going to be one of "those" days...ironically the sun is shining for once!
I sincerely hope everyone else is in a better frame of mind than me today

Oh dear FT, what an awful night for you {{hugs}} this is the last thing you need to worry about right now

Morning all

FT, I would forget the GP, she is talking crap. She isnt a specialist, she have a general knowledge of all things, not indepth specialist. I recovered fairly quickly from a CS, but would say its not easy. My sis has pregnancy diabetes, and she had natural all the way. I always hear big babies are easier to deliver as they help themselves along.
If you want a natural, then push for it as long as you and LO are safe your consultant should agree.

Im too having a crap day Could not sleep, darren left for work at 5am this morning as he had to travel and get there for 7am this morning Tani is home all day, and its raining. I feel like crap, my head to banging, my back hurts and I keep getting this stupid BH! No rest with Tani at home so have to hope darren finishes early, so i can go back to bed.

HUgs to you.

Lisa

Hi all

FT-poor you i'm afraid i don't know anything about the dibeties in pg or cs so all i can offer you is hugs and sympathy, also, will pass you a virtual diabetic choc bar if you want it? i think there is quite a range of them at health shops if you need a choc fix. io've also been told bigger babies are easier to push out than little ones, from a woman with 4 dc's so they may be some truth in it.

Lisa- sorry your feeling crap too, think we're getting to that time now where we're all fed up and want the lo's out so we can feel better! the BH are a pita, they yake my breath away!

i've had a pain in the side of my face for weeks now, which i thought was sinus pain, but its keeping me up all night every night, managed to get in with gp at 10.30 so hopefully will get that sorted.

can't remember who asked, but yes, still got the 'farmer Giles' they have stopped bleeding but are still sore, will mention that too, in fact, i'd better go write a list, could be in there for some time.

choc-thanks for the reply on my other post

sorry i haven't responded to everyone, need to go get dressed and ready to go, will catch up properly later.

hi to everyone else, and {{{{{big hugs}}}}} to thoses that need them, no, actually to everyone, we all need a hug now and then

Thanks MrsF (loved the bronzer pics by the way)and Lisa...I'm not feeling quite so down having got it off my chest (didnt want to worry Dh when he is off to Sweden and can't stick around to comfort me)and had some breakfast and walked the dog...so no I longer want to just sit and yell ....I think half my problem is that my drug of choice is food; I'm a comfort eater..and having that restricted is like taking my dummy/blanky away [abashed emoticon] I just need to grow up and accept it..it is only for 6.5 weeks now anyway! (and not even that if they insist on inducing me early!)
Right! I'm going to pin a smile on my face and get some housework done for a change...I'll be back later.

oops xposted with you J20! Hope the appointment goes well and you get your aches and pains sorted at last. I'll catch up with you later

Arrrgghh!! DS won't stop crying, its doing my head in. He wants chocolate and I won't let him have any Oh well he is at nursery this afternoon, so a bit of peace and quiet beckons

Morning all

Floria - poor you - I'm not surprised you've been feeling fed up. Hope you manage to stay positive now. Big hugs your way! Agree with Lisa about GP and remember too, 'they' don't actually know how big the baby is - we've all heard those tales of way out estimates.

Hi to everyone else. ChocHobNob - pmsl at thought of breastfeeding class with dolls! You must tell us all about it. Still we shouldn't be too cynical I guess, it might be useful, you never know.

Did anyone else hear the piece on Woman's Hour today about baby weight charts? Apparently, the charts used in this country are based on formula-fed babies so breast-fed babies often seem to be gaining weight too slowly according to the chart and mothers are often advised to supplement with formula or introduce solids earlier than the 5/6 month 'ideal'. Unsurprisingly, mums then become too worried/disillusioned with breast-feeding and tend to give up. On top of all this, there is now thought to be a link between how much a baby eats and gains weight in the first six months and the later likelihood of obesity. The WHO charts, on the other hand, are based on breast-fed babies and are currently being introduced in this country, though annoyingly, the programme didn't say when. Anyway, something to remember if we're told our breast-fed babies aren't 'thriving' later down the line.

Do any of you knitters have any advice on the best seam to join a garter stitch sleeve to a garter stitch shoulder. I began the other day with simple oversewing, but it's not looking good enough. This may just be because I'm not very good at it - it's my first foray into knitting. I'd be v grateful for any tips at all.

Later, A x

Morning all ...

Apricott - don't have a clue on the knitting I'm afraid (I can only cope with the one hook!) - but try posting a request on the Arts and Crafts section ... the ladies there are fab!

FT - I haven't waded into any previous discussion about gestational diabetes before, but the reaction you got from your GP has made me need to say something ... there's debate as to whether or not GD is actually a real condition or not this article makes quite interesting reading - and the chapter in the Guide to effective care in pregnancy and childbirth is also worth a look - if you don't want to register on the site, I am registered, and can email you a copy of the relevant chapter if you want.

Basically, your GP is talking absolute b0ll0cks ... the Guide is seen as one of the gold standards in obsetric care!

Will now get down off my soap box again ...

Hi everyone - FT, sorry you're having such a time of it. Hope today is a bit brighter for you. Apricot, you can download the brestfeeding growth charts from the internet - I think you just google it and something comes up. Def one ot print off and ignore HV's - the rubbish I was told about bf/ff from them - at least this time I'll be a bit more knowledgeable. hope you got on ok at the Dr's J20.... and that everyone else is ok

Mrs Fish - how is DS doing now? I can empathise. Enjoy the peace this afternoon. I have tried to get DS's name down for the nurseries here - I thought I was being all prepared and would have something in place for before LO arrives, only to be told yesterday that he is on the list for next September's intake now at one of them and number 18 in the list for the other, with no places looking available until children drop out.

and what the hell was I thinking doing potty training now.......

Afternoon averyone.
Sorry about those of you that are feeling out of sorts today.

I was up at 6am this morning to make DP a flask of coffe for his trip to Swindon today, but went back to bed afterwards. LO decided she was going to kick me to bits until he left at 6.45am. I managed to get back to sleep and did not wake until DD came in at 8.45.

Did a bit of tidying down stairs and have just had my hair cut. It feels so much better now. It has not been cut since march, so badly needed doing and was really getting on my nerves. Only cost me £7.50 as she came to the house, rather that paying £30+ at a salon.

Have a good day everyone.

EJT; you can get on your soap box as often as you like as far as I'm concerned..those articles, though obviously not following conventional medical practise echo a lot of what I have been feeling on the subject, they were facinating, thank you. You have certainly given me some ammunition to fire back at my GP if she tries to push for a cs again...and I loved the line about the theories reading like Alice in Wonderland! Thanks you have put the first genuine smile of the day on my face.

Hi all,

Floria -Sorry to hear the confusing gp telephone conversation. I think you hit the nail on the head when you said the dr said about

"much better you have a CS and feel fit 6 wks later..that's when I have to look after you!"

He's more worried about afterwards and how it effects him. Go for what you want within what your consultant says, as the others say, he's the expert!

We went to soft play this morning with friends and then shopping for spag bol ingredients, then to hobbycraft for christmas card ideas as I am going to get christmas done and dusted asap. Aren't going to fully sign cards with Henry's name until he arrives, still superstitious about some things!
Am going to cross stitch book marks and coasters for presents as doing a lot of sitting -do you think that's okay? All of our family and friends read and they all tend to like the personal touch. I'll get Ollie to paint pictures and then I'll frame them. Once done all wrapped up into bags with names of family/friends and stored in the spare room.
Nice idea, be amazed if it happens!!

Whoever asked re the kitting, that's my bug bear, I can knit but when it comes to joining it all looks like a 5 year old has done it! I was told by my MIL that crocheting together knitting gives a wonderfully neat finish. Best ask the arts and craft lot though...

Spent at least half and hour on the loo today courtesy of the iron tablets but I do aggree with the old adage of better out than in...was much better out though v. painful getting it that way

speak later