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The March-ers 2019 #6

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Angelmiracle · 28/09/2018 23:04

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VillageFete · 03/10/2018 11:51

Hi all,

Got a few pages to catch up on and i’ll come back to chat, but just an update to say IT’S A BOY!!!! Shocked as never seen myself with a son, but feeling very blessed.

My DD is 9, and I can’t help but feel that gap is a bit larger than i’d have liked. I’m seriously considering going for number 3 not too far in to the future after DS is here. Anyone else here have 2 fairly close in age? Am I nuts to consider it? Obviously nothing is set in stone, but just seeing how many have 2 close in age and what your experiences are?

SquirtlesMumAgain · 03/10/2018 11:51

Thanks @babycatcher411, sounds like it may well have been something not checked last time. Would have been roughly 4 years ago I was pregnant last time.

Nub theory is something to do with guessing the gender early on. I was looking at our scan pics and we have a really clear nub I think on one shot and it looks quite girly from the Internet but as it's only 80%ish accurate we will wait and see!

Murphyrocks · 03/10/2018 12:01

@Villagefete my 2 sons are 9 years apart in age (and get on like an absolute house on fire) and there'll be a 2 1/2 year age gap between my youngest and the new baby. Afraid I can't really comment on how things go with a small age gap but if my 2 are anything to go by please don't worry about the larger age gap between your current 2! The bigger gap means the sibling rivalry really isn't an issue and your oldest will be able to help out more which can be really useful, and for mine makes him feel more responsible and grown up which he likes. And congrats, boys are awesome! I'm pretty sure the next one is a boy too if nub theory is anything to go by but we'll get confirmation on the 15th at 20 week scan.

VillageFete · 03/10/2018 12:29

Thanks @Murphyrocks I think the gap is worrying me more because they are the opposite sex, so i’m making a sweeping generalisation that they may not necessarily have much in common due to this and the gap combined. Hope i’m wrong!

I do think I want one more (if i’m able to) and would rather think about it sooner than later after DS arrives so it’s kind of done and dusted and they grow up close in age.

Velcro88 · 03/10/2018 12:32

Feeling quite overwhelmed. Just had our anomaly scan, which I'd got really anxious about. Everything looks fine! I'm exhausted and just don't feel as elated as I thought I would. I don't know why. DH is pleased and in high spirits and I feel bad for feeling just a bit flat. I shed plenty of tears in the room though(before and after seeing baby)! She told us it's probably a girl, which although I didn't think I minded one bit which gender, it's not what I'd imagined, and I think it's taking a bit of a mental shift to re-imagine and get excited again. I thought I'd be on cloud nine! What's the matter with me?!?

Bluebelltulip · 03/10/2018 12:37

@Velcro88 glad your scan went well. Don't feel bad about feeling flat it can be hard to go from worry straight to elation.

ladycarlotta · 03/10/2018 12:49

@Velcro88 sorry you feel flat - it is totally understandable though. there's so much to take in, and especially when you're also dealing with fears and expectations. TBH, I think I'll feel similar if I find out I'm having a girl - I'm so convinced it's a boy. And I don't even know what difference it makes, as far as I'm concerned a baby's a baby and there are really no gender differences in that early stage.

Congratulations, though, that your baby is healthy and you can continue without that particular worry. I really don't think you have to be overjoyed at everything, you are dealing with quite enough intense emotion and busy-ness as it is.

ladycarlotta · 03/10/2018 12:55

welcome @babycatcher411! Lovely to have a midwife in the group, haha. Your son sounds delightful, what a sweet thing to do - I'm a MUCH older sibling (21 years) and can confirm that there are so many lovely dynamics that come out of a big age gap, quite different from the one I have with my sibling who is close in age. Incidentally my grandfather died a few months ago - his youngest brother did his eulogy, and spoke about what a happy, loving childhood he had with siblings who were 10-13 years older to spoil him and teach him things. He felt it was a privilege.

VillageFete · 03/10/2018 13:22

@Velcro88 I felt exactly the same after my 13 week scan. Regarding gender, I totally get it. I was told yesterday i’m having a son. I already have a 9 year old DD and always envisioned myself with another girl, a sister for her, she had a name and everything. It’s what I completely expected. I was in real shock yesterday. I can’t lie, I shed some tears for that imaginary daughter. I know i’ll absolutely adore him, and so will my DD, but it’s a shock I need to digest. He wasn’t what I was expecting!

WhatALearningCurve · 03/10/2018 15:25

@VillageFete I'm one of 6 kids. I'm 30. My eldest sister is 46, then one at 44, a brother at 40, a sister at 37 and a 29 year old brother (there are literally 13 months between us. My mum pregnant when I was 4 months old. She must have been insane ha)

I can safely say the age gap was never an issue. For the bigger age gaps - my older sisters meant that I always had someone to speak to if I was too embarrassed to ask mum. They also saved me from some rather embarrassing trends when I thought they were cool enough to listen to!! My older brother is the reason I love sci fi and was a teenage mosher so we always had a good relationship.

My younger brother and I were close growing up because we saw it as an "us vs them" situation when we thought the older ones were being too bossy ha. I had speech issues till I was 4 and he used to have to translate for me. Even now we have a good relationship. The only issues we ever had were really childish ones. I used to get into strops when he got things same time as I did without waiting the extra year (massive blow up when I got a phone at 13 and he got one at 12) and there was one Christmas over 20 years ago where I got a Gameboy and he didn't (he didn't ask for one) and I think he's still resentful now ha.

Honesty. I wouldn't worry about the age gaps. Whether they're big or small they'll fall into their own relationship with each other

Velcro88 · 03/10/2018 17:21

@Bluebelltulip @ladycarlotta @VillageFete Ladies, thank you so much for your reassuring words! I'm relaxing into it a bit now too. @VillageFete, sounds like we've been through a similar mental journey! I agree with you @ladycarlotta about gender differences/indifferences, and indeed I have a bee in my bonnet generally about avoiding gender stereotypes... So I very much intend to make sure this little girl gets the same treatment and opportunities as a little boy would have. #bringonthelego!

Good luck to all with forthcoming scans. @Wineandchoccy was yours tomorrow? All the best!

Velcro88 · 03/10/2018 17:22

Ooh lovely, nice and bold. That's what I was aiming for.

Wineandchoccy · 03/10/2018 17:26

Well remembered @Velcro88 yes it’s tomorrow afternoon I’m feeling very very nervous

babycatcher411 · 03/10/2018 18:15

You guys are making me feel so much better knowing I'm not the only one worrying/fretting about the gender.

Obviously I'll start with the obligatory, I don't really mind what I have, so long as it's health etc etc.
But I'd like a girl, simply because I have a boy already and it'd be nice to be the mum to a girl as well.

I had my son when I was very young and I was disappointed then that he was a boy, I think I'd got it into my head that if it was a girl, somehow we'd be okay (I was a single mum). It'd be me and her against the world. Once the initial disappointment and surprise was over with, it's never made any difference him being a boy, if anything it's possibly been better because I'm very outdoorsy (kayaking, mountain biking and climbing), so he's been keen to join me on many things, where a girl maybe would not.

We weren't going to find out the gender. As a midwife it's so lovely watching parents discover it at the birth, there's just something so special about it.
But I'm scared that if this one is a boy I'll be disappointed again, and at least if I find out at 20/40 it gives me time to adjust to the idea of a boy by the time the baby is here. But it makes me feel a bit sad finding out the sex in case I'm disappointed.

LittleKitty1985 · 03/10/2018 18:53

We wanted a boy, & we thought we were having a boy, & we ARE having a boy, so we're happy. But a small part of me still had to grieve the loss of my potential daughter - I didn't expect that. Also, I still sometimes catch myself referring to him as "it" Blush

fanks · 03/10/2018 19:46

I have a 12 year old, 11 year old, 4 year old and 2 year old each age gap has had its ups and downs! The older girls are so close and generally get on so well (share a lot of interests) it's lovely having them close in age they are also fab big sisters! The younger 2 are at the driving me potty stage but they do play so lovely together a lot of the time!

We've decided not to find out the gender, I've found out with all the other (3 girls, 1boy) so this time I would love a surprise if I can hold out!!!

Wineandchoccy · 03/10/2018 20:12

Me and my brother were not that close when he was 18ish but he was out drinking and I was an annoying kid sister but we are so close now. He treats my dd like his own and he is always there for me it doesn’t feel like there is almost 11 years between us.
My Mum & Dad did have another son in between us but unfortunately he died so the age gap wasn’t by choice.

Angelmiracle · 03/10/2018 20:16

@babycatcher411 I feel like I'm in your boat too. I have DS and didn't find out we were having him I genuinely just really wanted a baby but instincts were strongly telling me he's a boy.

It's taken 5 years ttc this baby again we said don't want to find out what we're having so lucky to have no.2 on the way.

After my 13 week scan last week I was convinced I see a boy nub (not that I know anything about it). And I actually panicked. So I'm obviously thinking this is a girl. It would be nice to have one of each. If we have another boy I'd want to try again and DH would not! So I thought should I find out at 20weeks to prepare myself but thought I'll regret finding out Confused #torn

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Marmite2018 · 03/10/2018 20:18

Thanks @Murphyrocks and @HidCat, interestingly I think baby moved last night and my tummy feels harder and more prominent today. I wonder if they've moved out of my pelvis now?!

Congrats on the boy @VillageFete! @Velcro88 sending hugs, you're allowed to feel this way.

There are 18 years between me and my half brother! It's a different relationship between me and my full brother where there are three years but I've enjoyed our relationship in lots of different ways!

NotDoingThat · 03/10/2018 20:39

@babycatcher411 @Angelmiracle I'm in a similar boat- it's not that I want a girl (I have more experience with boys and think it would be easier parenting wise), it's that the girl instinct is so strong I'm worried if it isn't I'll just take a beat to adjust if it's a boy/ mourn the loss of the girl I've been thinking about. If that makes any sense πŸ™ƒ

So I'm also wondering if I should find out just so I'm prepared- I'm a bit anxious about PND / bonding anyway, wondering if I should jut rule out any potential spanners in the works. Not that is overthought it πŸ˜‚.

Spud2019 · 03/10/2018 21:24

Really nice to hear all the age gap stories. I'm close in age to my siblings and our eldest are all intentionally close so I've been a bit freaked out by this age gap especially as this baby is a surprise. It's lovely to hear some stories of how it can feel. Four of our big five our boys, the youngest, my step daughter, is a girl, so I was even more shocked when we found out this bump is probably a girl. I'd decided I couldn't have girls. The big ones will be 20, 18, 16,16, 13 when this bump arrives. I've always enjoyed the big ones being part of a big family and don't want this little one to ever feel left out. Sometimes I think about whether I'll feel like another one to keep it company, then I remember that's nuts!

I'm trying to think about all the things I can do to make sure they feel as part of it as possible but we'll see how that goes - my biggest one saw my bump last night and said 'wow yuck there REALLY is a baby in there'. My youngest boy who is autistic keeps doing helpful maths like 'mum that means you'll have lived in a house with a child for 40 years when this one moves out and by the time it does you'll be nearly retired'. Perhaps they both need another sibling to practice their sensitive and caring sides on :-).

I've been a bit freaked out since my 16 week consultant appointment. After the late miscarriage last time I'd been doing a reasonable job of taking each day as it comes and being grateful that bubs is still doin ok, and none of my midwife visits had been anything special (other than saying I'd be consultant based care and they'd rather I give birth in hospital which I expected as that's been the same for each baby because of very big first baby who got stuck and retained placentas and PPHs). Consultant was amazing and had read all my notes and knew my obstetrics history and what had happened with my abnormal cervical cells inside out. She had spoken to the Consultant who carried out my last biopsy which again was great and so thorough, but lots of news to take in as they decided they are going to check me for abnormal cells during pregnancy which I didn't think they usually did so wasn't expecting, because abnormality was advanced and impacted a large area. I almost felt like crying it was such a relief to have someone so fantastic even though she was clearly really busy. But I did end up having to take the day off because she had wanted to see me at 12 weeks and it got missed somehow so she immediately referred me up to the big hospital for some more appointments that afternoon, and changed my scanning/appointments to fortnightly at the big hospital till 24 weeks. The first internal scan that afternoon they spotted risk of placenta previa which hasn't happened to me before and sounds a bit pants (I've always managed to avoid sections before and was hoping I'd manage to work till 40 weeks to max out my mat leave). It was a funny feeling of relief at amazing consultant, and being so so grateful for the NHS but also having a lot to take in about baby's health but also mine. I think I'm getting there now. Next scan on Friday. Reminding myself how lucky it is to know how bubs is doing so often (they do a quick external scan to check before the internal one). Reckon this bubs has already had more photos taken than most of my elder ones did in their first year. In my old maternity unit they did amazing hot chocolate in the vending machines, have to try and find something like that to look forward to so the sitting around in waiting rooms trying not to be stressed about my emails piling up is fun.

In other news I have managed not to tidy up, label, colour code or paint anything in the house for at least 48 hours so perhaps the nesting is subsiding for a bit. Everyone else in my house will be glad they can actually find stuff where it last was rather than having to guess where I've 'organised' it to (with fingers crossed it wasn't 'the bin', I've been quite ruthless)

Funny to think we're all around half way!

SquirtlesMumAgain · 03/10/2018 21:25

I'd always wanted a girl and we didn't find out with DS. I was just so glad he was here I couldn't have cared less if he was a boy or girl. I did have pnd but him being a boy never came into it (which surprised me I guess), I was just so anxious about keeping him alive!

Angelmiracle · 03/10/2018 22:12

@Spud2019 that is an awful lot to take in for one appointment! I had to list off all my questions for consultant last week to DH while in the waiting room I surprisingly forgot to write them down. Like you I found him lovely and thorough. He was the gynae consultant I met earlier this year about struggling to conceive so that was nice.

It sounds like they are really on top of it all with you and taking extra care that's the best you could want for yourself and baby. I have known 3 mums this year who started out with placenta preiva but they all delivered vaginally as placenta moved. Hopefully odds are in your favour.

I had the loveliest phone callcall from a midwife tonight. She said I was referred to the weight management team at booking in. Midwife didn't mention anything about this. Any way she said it's only been rolled across the trust the past couple of years. She said no one will try to patronize you etc about what to eat, a dietician will ring and have a chat over the phone. Thats all fine with me. She talked about GTT which she will test me for. It was normal with DS. She noted how big he was and asked did they keep an eye on size of him or did I have any growth scans and I didn't. She was surprised by that and reassured me they will not let that happen this time.

She commented on the blood transfusion after delivery and how I felt this time. She said she held clinics for women who had traumatic experiences. She said do not sit and home anxious about how baby will get here- a lot of midwives push for vaginal delivery but she said it's entirely my choice if I want an ELCS and they have to listen to your concerns.

I got my 26 week appointment through and I told her it's a different consultant. She reassured me he actually runs a private clinic for women's health and if anyone is going to listen to your concerns it would be him! That made me feel loads better tonight!

She had rang from her mobile and said if I have any concerns about my care etc to ring her any time!

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HidCat · 03/10/2018 22:31

@VillageFete congratulations! I'm sure the age gap will be fine and if you go for a third that will work too, both have their advantages.

@Velcro88 wasn't the sonographer sure? Don't worry if you haven't got your head around it - plenty of people feel like that when they find out.

@Wineandchoccy I'm so sorry for the loss of your brother, it must've been very hard for your family.

I'm hoping for a girl this time and submitted my scan to a nub theory group who all thought girl so if it's a boy I'll have to get my head around it!

Spud2019 · 03/10/2018 22:36

@Angelmiracle yep I had mine written down and had 'am I still best avoiding exercise and sex or is it ok now' on my question list but got distracted so had to turn around and go back in to ask. I felt even more embarrassed asking because I'd forgotten the first time.

I'm glad you had a lovely midwife. It makes so much difference when someone is kind doesn't it, especially when they are so busy but they still manage to be nice. When I was induced with my second the two staff on duty that night were a bit dubious I was in labour and my waters had broken so didn't let me call my hubby till the morning (he was born by 9am...luckily dad just made it). When I think of him being born I always remember walking up and down the corridor watching them eat kit kats and read magazines feeling really lonely, even after all these years. Little things can make so much difference.

My sister is named after the midwife and my brother after the doctor :-)