August 2018 #4

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Thought I'd start up a new thread as the old one has run out of space.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-38289298

Google Bednest following your post @Beanmama18 and found this...
Am sure the new modified versions are fine but you just never imagine anything like this.

I quickly read up about that death. I got the impression it's because the side wasn't put up properly whilst baby was unattended. Still need to do more research I think.

Just catching up. Was only back last Monday and Tuesday from maternity leave and then working from home Wednesday, Thursday and Friday which was lovely.

We have the uppa baby vista travel system which I recommend and converts if you have a second child. Only thing to check is does it fit in boot of car as we never did and it doesn't so have to take a wheel off which is a bit of a pain.

We have the snuzpod and the sleepyhead deluxe and the grand and I highly recommend them. Definitely helped DS to Sleep as we tried him without and he wouldn't settle as easily and would wake up more frequently.

Feel like they are worth it as will be using them again for this little one.

I have heard good things about the chicco and so I think I might get one of those. I like that it can we used as a travel cot for when we go and stay with my parents.

I've read mixed reviews of the sleepy head, on the safety side. They look really popular though! I might go for one of those swaddle grow bags for newborns

If you do want to swaddle make sure baby is in their own space in the bedside cot. It's not considered safe to swaddle them when they're next to you because they need to be free to move about (as much as newborns do!) - it's one of those guidelines which isn't really explicitly stated. Swaddling is only safe when they're in their own space.

@BertieBotts can you swaddle in summer?

I don't see why not? It's quite a thin layer you'd swaddle in.

Really, even the bag/swaddle ones gro.co.uk/product/groswaddle/ can't be used in a Chico or other bedside cribs?

I might use them in a bedside crib possibly but only if I was sure that I'd be putting the baby back into their own space for sleeping (after feeds). I found if I had DS right next to me with a normal sleeping bag on he'd get really hot and I didn't feel it was safe, so I tended to have him in his vest and sleepsuit (or just vest in the summer) and then a cellular blanket on him and my tummy, then I'd have the duvet to the back of me so it was away from him. But once he was consistently sleeping in the cot part on his own then I was happier to use the sleeping bag so I could get the duvet for myself! Even without a barrier in between.

You could ask grobag for their opinion, they seem quite good on safety knowledge :)

Thanks Bertie! It's an absolute minefield!! I suppose there are just so many things on the market, that for first timers it feels really quite daunting!

Terribly daunting and confusing. Totally freaked out by all the safety risks 😱

There must be some sort of comprehensive guide online somewhere. I'll make this my mission during downtime at work this week 🙈. But then it's all so subjective isn't it, and lots of different opinions. I've been people really arguing online about the sleepyheads!

Lullaby Trust is the UK gold standard for SIDS prevention advice. Although I do find them a little bit overcautious in some areas, their advice is generally sound and they do know their research.

Infant Sleep Info Source is another good one, they are fans of safe co-sleeping and bedside cots so have info on using those safely too.

I know it's scary because you feel such a responsibility for a tiny baby but do remember SIDS is very rare and it's not usual that we would totally follow safety advice 100% to the letter. If you're doing 9/10 things to reduce a risk, it's not particularly likely to be a huge issue if you skip one recommendation (as long as you know the reason behind it and you're okay with it) and sometimes there can be practical or other benefits for doing that.

I know AAP (American Academy of Paediatricians) have recommended against any kind of sleep positioner product, I'm not sure if things like sleepyheads are included in this. But then AAP is totally against bedsharing to the point that most American parents are misleadingly thinking it's safer to do night feeds on a reclining chair or sofabed - which is really much worse!

I wouldn't bother with the sleepyhead until you know how your baby is going to settle. In some cases they get used to it and it's really hard to remove as they won't sleep without it.

I need to research double pushchairs, my son will be 21 months when baby 2 is here. Although he's a good walker I'd rather have the option to stick him in the pushchair when needed. I've had a look at the Cosatto Shuffle online which seems quite good.

We've got our sexing scan on Saturday, looking forward to finding out what we're having.

No I certainly won't be, was just using it as an example of how differing and confusing the advice can be on the various different products available!

Thanks for all those suggestions Bertie, there's definitely some good bedside reading there!

So this is my second pregnancy. The first was amazing no morning sickness and felt great the whole way through. This one has been rough. I'm nearly 15 weeks and still waking up nausea sometimes sick and energy levels are low. Anyone else fee completely different with second pregnancy??

@Hannahcarp27 Yes!!!
I was a bit nauseous with my first but it had definitely gone by the time I was 14 weeks. And I never had to have time off work for it or anything.
This one has been awful, I've had to have time off work, tablets from the Dr for the sickness. I'm tired all the time. I'm 16 weeks today and still feeling sick in the evenings. My skin is awful this time round too, whereas last time it was the best its ever been!

My last was a girl, so I'm assuming that because I feel so different, this one is a boy. But then my friend in work was the same with her second and thought it must be a boy and it was another girl!

@Emmasmum2013 my last was a girl as well so been thinking boy but I also had a friend at work similar situation and having another girl. My skin is also awful I just look and feel rubbish. Can't wait to start glowing at some point

I think all the running round after 4 year old DD is taking its toll on me this time. I definitely miss the days when I could come home from work and have a nap before tea! And lazy weekend mornings lounging in bed... No wonder I'm always knackered :\

@Hannahcarp27 I'm having another boy and have awful skin (I've read that the increased testosterone causes it or something). Perhaps it is a boy??? 😲

I'm another needing to research double prams. I want one which can take a car seat though....

I'm not buying much this time round as we can reuse everything from last time. Am planning to get a buggy board to avoid a double pushchair (although we have an uppababy vista, which could convert if needed).

Would second the poster who said you don't need to buy everything that the shops say. Baby stuff is very robust and they grow out of things quickly. Buying second hand is a great way to save money. Small babies are sleepy and portable, so it is possible to get things once they're born.

On the safety advice front, the midwives and health visitors are pretty helpful. I will get new mattresses for everything. I did swaddle last time, when DD was in her own bed. It seemed to help with the crying! It is mostly common sense stuff.

I think not needing to buy stuff means this baby doesn't feel real yet. We had to research and write lists last time. Plus the placenta is at the front, so I can't feel much movement. Less than a week until the 20 week scan now, so perhaps it will hit me after that.

I'm another one who swaddled last time. Those Summer Infant swaddle things are amazing. We just used to swaddle in a big muslin at first but she soon grew out of it and started to free herself really easily.

Swaddling really helps to stop them waking from the Moro Reflex (where they kind of startle in their sleep and fling their arms up in the air and wake themselves up) so I'll be doing that again this time. Hopefully it'll help this time as much as last!

Oooh SIL has very kindly offered to buy us a proper bedside crib (but has also said she's happy to chip in for something else) but I can't decide whether to go for her offer or get the ikea one and convert it!

Her choice is lovely and the best value one I've seen in the UK (though I'm concerned with her posting it to Germany!) but it's only 90cm long and the reviews seem to suggest it only lasts 6-12 months. 12 months might be doable but I'm worrying 6 will be too short

DH is a bit anxious about converting one so wants to go for it but I'm really quite concerned about the space issue. Doh... what to do? We have a king sized bed, so in theory it shouldn't be too much of an issue if they eventually get too big and the cot will just end up being used like a bed guard, but I really did like the option of being able to shove DS off into his own space too

With my DD I had the worst skin ever, like a teenager with acne. This time my skin is beautifully clear so I was convinced it's a boy - nope girl again!

@iamloading It just shows doesn't it... every pregnancy is different and there's really do definite way of telling until you have the gender scan.
I'd be happy with either. One of each would be lovely, but we've got everything already for a girl! I've got boxes and boxes of clothes in the garage that DD has grown out of. I intended to sell them but never have got round to it. It'd be nice for them to get a bit more wear! Some of it still has the tags on.