Due in June........Shit, a sneeze just crept up on me without warning and I forgot to cross my legs!!!

[Daisybump]

I thought this was the funniest

Nothing to stop you singing along at normal Joseph anyway. Of course you might look a bit odd if you dressed up too.

I'd love to go and see Chicago in the West End, but DH has said he would rather stick hot needles in eyes and then gently fry his own testicles for entertainment.....one day I'm gonna organise a girls weekend and leave the boys to their frying...personally I think the reason heterosexual men are frightened of admitting they like musicals is because they are more than a little insecure about their own sexuality....

I made a joseph coat once for a showcase at work, maybe I could do it again! Mmmm...maybe not !!

I am sat here refusing to go to bed until dp makes me a cup of tea. He is refusing to go to bed until I make him one. Looks like a long night !

Saw Chicago a few weeks ago @ Kings in Glasgow. Was brilliant. Managed to drag my DP to We Will Rock You last time we were in London. He absolutely loved it - but still not keen to go and see anything else with me. Did guilt him into Tutti Frutti but he couldn't understand a word of it.

Well...I'm gonna make my own tea and go to bed with my book for a bit...tried the red wine and managed half a glass . I seem to have gone off the stuff..

Sleep Well chicks

Oh I completely agree daisy, I have recently pursuaded my dp to wear a (very pale) pink shirt to work. I told him that only men that were very secure in their sexuality wear pink! I think he quite likes it now! Musicals, however, are a step too far for him! Except Tommy which he would love to go and see! My dad admitted to liking west side story the other day, now that was an unexpected admission!

i love the Kings Tallulah...its one of my favourite theatres.....we used to go there a lot to see things when i was at school....

DS looks great in pink....there's lots of it about in boyswear again this summer...

right definately off to bed...I'm now starting to bore poor DH with...."on MN..." conversations

Well Daisy, I'll happily drink the other half for you. I haven't lost my taste for it at all. Still I've already had my limit for this week so think I'll just go for the tea too. Oooh and a vanilla slice that I bought for DP for his birthday cake. He has been at the pub since lunchtime watching cricket world cup so he won't be needing it. And I have been eating prunes, dried apricots and green beans all day to get my iron levels up so must deserve a treat.

My dp hates the "on Mn" conversations, they make him roll his eyes! Goodnight, sleep well xx

Night all.

Off to dream of Seamus and his loincloth

Happy dreaming!

Anyone up? Had a shitty night last night, about 3 hours sleepo in total, and an argument with DH at 6:15 this morning as he was complaining of not having enough sleep cos I kept waking him up in the night He's currently languishing in bed and I hope he's enjoying it cos it's the last time he's gonna be in it for a while...twunt!!

Hi daisy

I'm up too, the discomfort has driven me out of bed. Sorry to hear about your argument. It's not like it's yor bloody fault! I hope you told him that however annoying it is for him its far worse for you!

Cheers bumper...I think he gets the picture....and to cap it all, he's just had a phone call from work at 8:45 on a Sunday bloody morning. I'm hiding in the computer room to show my disgust, but am shortly headed back to bed to leave him with DS in full Power Ranger Mystic mode....

Just reading your conversation last night. DH is pretty fed up of the "on mumsnet" conversations I have. And we usually end up in an argument because it's usually about something for the baby, like yesterday we had an argument because I said I didn't want to use baby wipes, at least on a newborn as I think they are bad for the environment and really there is no need to use any products on a newborn baby. He said he didn't want a smelly baby! And I said oh so you'd rather have a baby who smells of huggies wetwipes than it's own natural smell. And then he goes back to his argument of why would mothercare sell things that are bad for your baby? Urgh, he's so naive sometimes! We had a similar argument about labour and how I didn't want any interventions if possible and he used the surely dr's know better than you argument. Anyway, these conversations usually end up with me saying "well I read on mn" and he is alway like "well how would a bunch of strangers know..." and I tell him it's about 30,000 mohers who have all done it before!

with you on the wipes bumper...as a new and inexperienced mum I bought some and poor DHs bottom was red raw within days....started using cheap flannels in water with a teeny bit of Avent baby wash in (IKEA sell 10 for pennies) as I found that cotton balls just not up to the task (yoo small)...and newborn babies poo doesn't smell bad anyway. In the same way they don't really need soap or shampoo either.

Just ask him...would you use something that can take red wine out of carpets to clean your babies bottom? Do a test with the red wine if he doesn't believe you...it works . Obviously when they get bigger and smellier and more robust, wipes are fine.

Erm....DS's bottom, obviously

My line of defense where MN is concerned, and it usually shuts him up quick smart, is that at least the women I "speak" to are interested. He wouldn't know where to start with what is and isn't needed for the baby and it really hacks me off that it's left up to me. If I ask his opinion I'll get it, but he never volunteers anything.

Thanks for the reassurance daisy. I feel the same about DH, especially about the labour thing, he really needs to be on the same page as me so I have literally shoved some books under his nose informing him that he isn't allowed an opinion until he has read them. When we have these arguments it usually spawns a tangental argument about how I don't respect his opinion and always think I am right (duh! I always am!) but at least my opinions are based around some reading around. Like you I sometimes feel like it's just me taking an interest.

Been in the garden having a sulk....

It's just gonna be one of those days Chez Moi.....DH now gone to get cigar grr....we're gonna spend all day avoiding each other.

I don't think they're being deliberately obtuse Bumper (she says, thawing slightly)...it's just that they don't really start the whole bonding thing until after the LO is born...it's all too abstract at the moment for their feeble brains to cope with . DH can't understand why I need to read and then re-read the same chapters over and over again in my baby books, especially as I've done it all before. He made a show of taking the books to Lincolnshire with him one week, then admitted he hadn't read them, and hasn't looked at them since....and he thinks I was taken in by that

I know, and actually DH will surprise me occasionally with snippets of info from books he obviously reads at work (he works in a bookshop). I think he just feels offended sometimes that he thinks I'm implying that he doesn't want what is best for our baby. I'm not, it's just the sooner he realises I'm right the easier it will be all round really

Correct me if I'm remembering the wrong history, but was it you and your DH who were separated when your DS was born, was he around much then? Maybe he is worried that he won't know what to do this time around, but obviously men being men they don't seek help or advice, just plough on through without any heed for instructions!

Morning all!

LOL at DH comments about MN - or as he call it 'mummys net' in his best most patronising tone he comes in the office and says something like 'are you talking to your new friends on mummys net again' .....to which I reply something like 'yeh - and.....?'

I told him that I am gonna try to meet up with some of you in Manchester and first thing he said was 'well make sure it's in a public place - they could be a bunch of perverted old men in mac's who get off on seeing pregnant women?!!'

Bless him - I suppose he means well but sometimes he is a bit of a tit.

No, proper preggo here - ahem

Dilema of the day - do I haul ass into town (actually only a 10 minute walk) and see if primark have any fab maxi dresses which will do me for the summer? Second dilema - I'm 5'2", can I get away with a maxi dress? Or do I sta home and finish my housework?