Due October 2007 ~growing little piggy bumps

[J20BABY]

well needed to start new thread, sorry if title is rubish (refers to the chinese new year) if people aren't keen, we can do another one!

well i went to boots, but they didn't have any, apparantly the store wasn't big enough, so went to McDonalds instead!

going to try and order from the website, only want a little starter pack to have a nosy, as i only intend to use them when i'm at home not out and about.

honeyapple, will let you know what type they are and good luck with maureen

glad to here all is well pheebe

Evening all ...

gemma - thinking of you - you feel free to let off steam - goodness knows I do it often enough!
Sorry to hear that your mil is ill - they may well warn you to stay away for the time being.

kezza - I've also started having the inappropriate dreams - dh is always in them, but I blush just to think about them ... mind you, the last time I confessed to the dreams, they stopped for a few weeks ....
I haven't got private health cover unfortunately - I work in the public sector, and dh's company is very small, so they don't get perks like that.

buffy - I'll bang on the table I think when I go for my scan, as I'll be just down the way from the physio department, so can drop in the referral (that's what happened last time!) My GP actually referred me for physio for the coccyx problem over 6 months ago and I'm still waiting.
When I was pg with ds, I had chiropractic for it, but I can't afford it this time around - although the acupuncturist is giving me a reduced rate, it'd still be too much to pay for that and chiropractic, and to be honest, I'd rather stick with the acupuncture!

jersey - we'll go for this vbac thing together ....

Well, we've had a nice Sunday - Sunday school as usual this morning (although we got soaked walkin from the church hall to the church), then we went out for lunch - we decided that we'd treat ourselves to lunch out for a few weeks ... unfortunately, today wasn't very successful - we went to a Harvester, and I didn't realise that they don't do a proper Sunday roast ... next week, we'll stick to the local pub which does a 'proper' sunday dinner! This afternoon, dh and I both lazed around (dh slept for most of the afternoon!), while ds played thunderbirds throughout the house ... bliss!

Interviewing tomorrow - I think I'm as nervous as the candidates - it's only the second time I've been on the interview panel, and it's quite a nerve-wracking thought!

Have a good end of your weekend all ... good luck to all those who have scans this week! I'm just putting the list again, as I've realised that I've said it'll be my 20week scan - but I'll be 21 weeks!

MrsFish - 15th May (20wk or thereabouts)
j20 15th May, 10 am(20 Week)
Kezza - 16th May (20 week)
alicet - 21st May (20 week)
ejt1764 - 22nd May 2pm (21 weeks)
greedy - 23rd May (21ish wk)
Mumpbump - 30 May (22 weeks)
Jersey - 1st June (23 weeks)
WinniethePooh - 4th June 10.20am (22 weeks)
gemmamc - 6th June (20 week)
buffythenappyslayer-7th june (22 weeks)
Honeyapple- 19th June 11.20 am (21+4wks)

lol at the q&a's polarmummy - thought the one about the tornado was good!

Here I'm having a detailed scan on tuesday. My nuchal neck & blood test results give 1:270 risk but the blood tests on their own aren't so good in terms of downs risk. Could have an amnio but dh not keen. Me neither - hope the scan will be ok.

feel tired out sometimes. Have restarted iron tablets. Also hungry lots - off to have some tea and toast!!

best wishes to all xxx

hi everyone.

gem ~ i've got thrush too, from having to take antibiotics for a gum infection, and the chemist wouldn't give me anything, so will need to see my gp. i also have been feeling down towards the end of the week, maybe its just been that type of week!! hope you feel better soon.

sorry to not mention everyone, so tired, going to bed soon, hope everyone has nice mondays tommorrow x x

Hi everyone
Sorry I haven't posted for a while, been feeling really flat recently for some reason. Alls going well, nuchal scan and bloods were all clear so that was real high and movements are getting stronger which is lovely but I just seem to have lost the spark or something. DH thinks cos I'm past all my real worry points and I don't have anything specific to worry about now I've forgotten whats its like to just feel normal! Maybe he's right, its just seems such a long time til October and I really really want to feel the proper kicks now so I know its really real, not just these little tickles.

Sorry, I know I just sound pathetic and feeble. Will pull myself together soon...

Hope everyones OK

Hello all - I, too, have been feeling very quiet of late.Not because of anything to do with me, but - warning of sad news to come - dear friends of mine just lost their baby at 32 weeks.

He had terribly rare heart problems that weren't picked up at the 20-week scan and everything started going seriously haywire with his entire system. So she was induced, gave birth, and he was such a fighter - lived for six days before dying peacefully in her arms.

I feel so very sad for them; just an appalling thing to go through. Am also at a loss to know what to say to them, and although I know the baby had a very rare condition it feels difficult to take much joy in my own pregnancy at the moment. It feels as if there's a tiger waiting to pounce round every corner - if the abnormalities scan didn't pick it up, how can any of us relax even after that? (Mine is on 1 June, btw).

I didn't know whether to post because, god knows, the last thing any of us want to do is spread doom and gloom around the October mums. And many of us seem to be having a stressful enough time as it is. So, many apologies if I've upset anybody...

O tallis, I'm so so sorry for you and your friends, puts my winges firmly into perspective

tallis - really really sorry to hear about your friends. That is a truely terrible thing to have to go through. I guess we all have to reassure ourselves though that this sort of thing is very rare - not much consolation if it happens to you though.

gemmamc - sorry to hear your mil is ill. Hopefully I can reassure you regarding the mrsa thing though - even if you 'catch' it from her it won't cause you any harm at the mo - many healthy people carry this on their skin or up their nose and it doesn't make them ill (they are called carriers). Its only when they have an operation or are ill and their immune system isn't working as well that it can cause a problem. Chat with your midwife - it might be worth you being tested for it nearer to the time that your baby is due in case you are a carrier - the mrsa could then potentially cause problems but if they knew it was there they could give you antibiotics effective against it as a precaution. Your midwife will know better than me as to how likely / necessary it would be to do this in this situation as I'm afraid I don't know that for this case.

Hello to everyone else! Sorry not to mention other individuals but pretty busy today as i have a work appraisal on wed....

x

Hi all

Hugs for everyone who is feeling low or down and Tallis that really does put things in perspective so sorry for your friends.

Have added myself to Scan list - next week!- Same day as Greedy

Thanks for all the car advice went to test drive a few at the weekend but feeling even more confused.

MrsFish - 15th May (20wk or thereabouts)
j20 15th May, 10 am(20 Week)
Kezza - 16th May (20 week)
alicet - 21st May (20 week)
ejt1764 - 22nd May 2pm (21 weeks)
greedy - 23rd May (21ish wk)
Kittiwake - 23rd May (19ish week)
Mumpbump - 30 May (22 weeks)
Jersey - 1st June (23 weeks)
WinniethePooh - 4th June 10.20am (22 weeks)
gemmamc - 6th June (20 week)
buffythenappyslayer-7th june (22 weeks)
Honeyapple- 19th June 11.20 am (21+4wks)

morning everyone!

kezza-took ages to get things to quieten down with the paedophile near us.housing visited him,and we rang the police.he never went to the police about ds,but i was glad that id gone to them before he had the chance.our local policeman knows us from when we had probs with the lunatic next door.police couldnt do anything apart from have a word with him about watching the kids.
housing said that he is now allowed to live back at the house as he is no longer on probation.
all they said to us was to keep a diary of anything that happens,and if it continued then to ring the police.
we found out though that the source of the trouble was his daughter.she had fell out with one of her friends who happened to be one of dd's friends.his daughter didnt like it,so started bullying dd,when ds told her to pack it in,her dad went to the school and said ds had been going to his house and shouting paedophile at him!funny thing is,everyone knows that my kids are not allowed at that end of teh estate,because of him,and not only that but my kids only go out in the street (were at the end of a cul de sac) if we are out.plus ds is disabled so theres no way he would be allowed out there on his own!
when it started to queiten down,dd came home with a note someone had given her that the girl next door had written at school to the girl who caused the trouble,she put in it that we (me and dh )were going to stab her mother!(lunatic next door)i was gobsmacked.dh went to the school and showed the head the letter.she said the girl next door causes nothing but trouble.(we had probs with her mother a couple of years ago-we put a 6ft fence up cos she kept throwing sanitary towels and dirty nappies in our garden,her dh came in our garden and started taking pics of the fence,told him he was breaking the law then he addmitted that he had a camera in his kitchen and had been filming me in the garden!i was breastfeeding dd at the time and was mortified.i rang the police,but they didnt do anything apart from go see them,a couple fo days later they came back saying her next door had rang them saying she had been attacked in teh loos in the carpark by two men in balaclavas with knives and they threatened to kill her if she didnt leave me and dh alone!thankfully the police looked into her background and found that she has that munchausens disease and has done a similar thing before.she got a caution and told to stay away fom us.a few weeks ago i had the police at the door saying she had said she had been broken into whilst sh was out,and because my back door was open and my dog didnt bark,then it mustve been me!!i laughed when the police man asked me if she was right in the head!!!i said no and he said her story didnt add up.)so you see i have loopy neighbours!!

this is why we cant wait to move away from here.

just seen how long this is!soooorrrryyy!!!!got carried away there!!!

hope everyones ok!!!

Morning all

Tallis - so sorry to hear your sad news.

A quick read through the weekend's posts and it seems everyone is down at the moment. Aren't we supposed to be blooming??? I'm fed up of feeling queasy ALL the time, but at least it's an improvement on puking all the time!! Am relieved too to finally feel some movements for sure. You lot all seem to have been feeling your babies move practically since conception, and I'll admit you had me a bit worried.

Suggestion for cheering selves up - rent 'Confetti' (and watch it ). We saw it in the week and enjoyed. It's an easy-going light british comedy about a wedding magazine's competition for the best novelty wedding. The wedding planners are a real treat.

ejt- I'm no Ospreys fan, so don't hold back!!

Blimey Buffy, can't believe all that. When are you moving, is it imminent?

Tallis - so sorry to hear about your friends, it is so sad. I know it is hard not to worry about your own lo when things like this happen, but you just have to try it will do neither of you any good stressing out over it.

Got my scan tomorrow... sooo excited

Just heard from my friend a few minutes ago, she has just lost her baby, very early on but she was so excited

Afternoon all!

Sorry to hear about your friend, Mrsfish. It's a bit of a reality check when that happens, isn't it?

Busy at work so can't post much and haven't been able to read through all the posts.

I had the day off on Friday to paint skirting boards and now have an almost functional dining room again after 6 months of it being the JUNK room! It's so nice and ds has a bit more space to run around in when he's at home which is good. And ds' bedroom is almost finished now as well although when it came to moving his cot out of our room, both dh and I decided we want him to stay in with us for a few more weeks - we're both very aware of the limited time we have with it just being him...

Will try and catch up with everyone' news tomorrow and post properly then...

mrsfish-sorry to hear about your friend.i rang one of my old friends to let her know i was pregnant and before i told her she told me that she had had to give birth to hers early after a scan showed he had serious bowel and heart probs.he died a few days after the birth.i never did tell her i was pregnant,just didnt feel right at the time,and since then she has changed her mobile number and moved,so i have no way of contacting her now.just hope when she feels the time is right she'll get in touch with me.

house should be ready in october.but we keep going to the village to have alook how they are getting on,and they are shifting with it!so hopefully it will be read before then.jsut dont want to move with a new baby,would refer to have had baby and move!

been for a walk down to our village,dh's idea.my pelvis started to really hurt on the way back up teh hill,so cheated and got fil to bring me and dd home!(they live half way up teh hill!) so dh ahd to push the 3 wheeler home with the dog in tow!!!

been getting really crampy pains at the bottom of my bump.feels like achey periody type pains,but im just hoping its everything stretching.has anypne else had anything like it?

Yup - had them this morning, walking into work. I am guessing that they are just BH tightenings as nothing else has happened since then. I remember reading somewhere that exercise can trigger BH contractions...

Yeah, I have had them too, really strong cramps and stitch when walking anywhere, and if I sit hunched over too much.

hello

buffy - I 've been feeling something similar, I think, from the first few weeks. I've read elsewhere on mumsnet that period type pain can be due to the uterus stretching, but most people said they got it in early pregnancy rather than later, so now I am starting to wonder whether I should continue to have this at 17 weeks....Perhaps we should both ask the midwifes? I told the GP last week, but his answer, being a man, was "can you describe what you mean by period pain?". Oh well. He did say that if it continued I should tell midwifes, but he didn't seem too concerned. Other opinions, though?

alicet - thanks - very reassuring info about MRSA. Will definitely ask to get tested then. My MIL is reacting to antibiotics, btw (some good news).

apricott - great you're feeling movement. Sorry if we made you worry. I have been feeling "tickling from the inside" for 3 weeks now, and I assume that's what it is, but of course I could be wrong!!

Tallis - sorry about your friends. Try not to worry too much about your scan though (I know it's easier said than done...).

My mood has improved. I've done some pregnancy yoga from a DVD and it really helped.

mrsfish - I've noticed the pain when I have been sitting at my desk for a long time or when my trousers are not loose enough or just not proper maternity trousers...

oh what a lot of bad news about peoples friends! it does put things into perspective, though dosen't it.

i've had a bit of spotting today, but not too worried, as i've got thrush, and think its more to do with that than anything else, mw said to mention it tommorrow at the scan. i'm kind of excited but also dreading it, feel like bursting into tears for some reason.

right will post again in a minute, as i can't remember who said what!

right.....

buffy, glad your getting away from crazy neighbours, bet you can't wait!

tallis and mrsfish sorry for your friends

re the pains and cramps, i've had bh (i think) but nothing too bad.

sorry if i've missed anyone, my memory is awful at the moment.

mrs fish, are you finding out the sex tommorrow?? i'm going to try

Hi folks, glad to see people are feeling a bit more positive today hopefully feelings will continue to get better as the weeks moves on.

Sorry to hear so much sad news about people's friends and as other have said it does put hings into perspective. I am just trying not to worry as I know it won't do any good anyway (easier said than done!)

As for pains I can second the period like pains mind you they are a lot milder than at the beginning and I've had no spotting so I am not too worried about them. Other pains I have been getting feel like they are just behind my pubic hair (sorry if too blunt but couldn't think of any other way to explain it) I have had them basically from the beginning but they do seem to be getting worse and are bad if I have been sitting down for a while and then stand up, anyone else getting these type of pains?

Hi all

I am also getting tightenings when I walk. I have decided that isnatures way of telling me to drive more I also feel a lot heavier in my tummy than before, guess everything is more stretch and loose. Hmmm nice thought.

Polarmummy the pain behind your pubic bone might be SPD. Does it feel worse when you stand on one leg or walk upstairs?

It seems at the minute that as lot of us have hit a wall, the intial excitement has gone, we are not halfway through and the blooming hasnt started. I hope everyone manages to have a good week.

So sorry to hear of those with friends suffering losses, we can only hope we are all ok.

Buffy, what a shocker with your neighbours, I hope you get to move sooner rather than later.

J20 - thrush, ouch, hope you feel better soon.

Gemma, v scary about the MRSA although you have had some good advice on here.

Good luck tomorrow MrsFish and J20. I keep grinning like a nutter when I think about mine on Wednesday

Sorry to those I have missed out, I am typing and checking work emails and making tea so need to be brief!

Thanks all of you for the sympathy about my friends' baby. I'm glad I got it off my chest at last.

Kezza, i think you just summed it up for many of us - initial excitement gone and now we're just waiting for rare scraps of news from infrequent scans. Do you know, i think we're all so used now to being part of the information age - ie, we can get instant updates on almost anything we want, whether it's news, or chats with friends/family, via internet or mobile phone - that we've grown more impatient than previous generations. My mother keeps saying to me, 'Just relax and let the baby get on with it like we all did," but I almost expect this baby inside me to be able to send messages saying, "yes, all fine, I'm just quietly getting on with growing". Like, where are my daily updates????????

Oh, and I'm certainly waiting eagerly for the second trimester "surge of energy". Very elusive round these parts...

Good luck with the scans tomorrow!!

Tallis, you are so right. So want we want are babies who can text us updates Now that would be evolution!!!!

KezzaG, I agree we seem to have hit a bit of a wall. I am sure things will get better for all of us in the next few days. I'll do my best to cheer up/start blooming!!

What do you think of this? It would be funny it it wasn't a bit worrying (in terms of the kind of service I can expect from my midwifes...)

I decided this afternoon after all this talk of menstrual pain that perhaps having a chat with a midwife would be a good idea. So I called the number that's on my notes. I tell the person who answers: I am 17 weeks and I have mild menstrual pain and a discharge that doesn't go away. Do I need to worry? Can I talk to a midwife? The person on the phone (I assume she wasn't a midwife) tells me to wait...then comes back to phone and says: you have to go to A&E.
Me: really?
Her: well, you have bleeding and pain, right? So, go to A&E.
Me: no! No bleeding thanks goodness and no REAL pain. I have MILD discomfort and a white discharge.
Her: go to A&E
Me: really? but the GP said to wait a week, and if I wasnt' better to go back.
Her: so , go back to the GP immediately
Me: but he will not see me "immediately" - it takes 2 days to get an appointment
Her: then go to A&E. If you called, it means you're worried, so go to A&E.

You know what - I am really not convinced. I think she was being really sloppy and not bothering to listen to me. Maybe I should change hospital?

I have been agonising a bit over this, then I thought: the most competent person between her and the GP was the GP. And he said to wait a week before going back to see him if nothing had improved. So I'll just make an appointment for Wednesday, which is one week since I've seen him.

What do you think? Or am I being really stupid here?