We're hugging our pregnancy pillows and tena lady whilst battling scanxiety and thrush in giant coats. Never ever overshadowed by Princess Kate, it's JS Grads 49!

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Welcome, welcome, welcome to the 49th grads thread... celebrating the success of Just Shagging in getting us viroids upduffed!

For those that don't know, a 'viroid' is from the original JSing thread 1, where someone was trying to type ladies (in reference to all the JSing ladies), but their phone decided to call us all viroids instead!

The name stuck and we've been the JSing viroids ever since.

The 48th grads thread is here.

The thread we have graduated from is here in its 63rd outing. WARNING: they're all a bit kerazy not to mention randy!

There is also a Just Mumming thread here for once your babies come along, or to keep up with the graduated graduates!

There is also a private facebook group (so it doesn't give the game away in your news feed!)... if you want to join to see photos of new babies etc, just ask in-thread!

Here is the stats list, please update your own spot with any updates.

I didn't feel movements until 23 weeks with my daughter..anterior placenta and first time around so wasn't sure what I was feeling.

Yes not sure what I'm looking out for to be honest!

I'm feeling really down today. Just fed up of feeling ill and feel really lonely as I'm not really seeing anyone as I can't ever predict how I'm going to feel. Feel like crying

Oh just it's miserable isn't it. Do you have any emotional support other than your partner etc. I mean a health visitor or mh midwife. It seems like you're having such a hard time of it with the sickness and a bit of extra support wouldn't go amiss.

Maybe hormones change around 22 weeks as I didn't feel any emotional connection till now and it sounds like it was around the same time for you nova but also if you're dealing with other things sometimes it's just survival isn't it.

Sorry you're feeling poorly nova

Good luck at the reassurance scan zyla and enjoy seeing your boy again.

nova we've looked at a few more places and kept applying, yeah. It's a stress.

Oh just, sorry you're feeling so down. Sometimes sticking on a rubbish movie and having a good sob can help I find. I have no actual real advice though.

That does sound stressful pretzel, I'm sure you'll find something soon. Is it hust something bigger in your current area you're looking for?

Hope your scan is great zyla

I felt the first pops/flutters at 16+4 but it's only in the last few weeks that she's been thumping around fairly consistently.

Yes, we need a two bedroom place, we're only in a one bedroom flat and it's crowded with three of us let along four! We're also on the third floor and I struggle getting up and down with DD as it is, but I'm not sure that will be solved by moving as we might end up in another flat 😢

No other support pretzel but I'm not sure what they could do. I'm only miserable because I'm so ill and they can't solve that. I just feel really isolated and fed up.

I know, they can't really help the main issue. Just thought they might be able to help with the isolated feeling even if it's just a chance to moan over tea to someone who you don't have to have a reciprocal relationship with (cause that's too hard when you're ill!). Maybe a rubbish idea, just a thought.

Not a rubbish idea at. I'm pretty insular though and the idea of talking to anyone in real life about my feelings fills me with horror

Awh, that's fair enough - and you can always, always talk to us.

How you feeling just?

Thanks guys. You're the sweetest. Feeling a bit better actually today, definitely less teary and feeling cheerier.

How is everyone else?

Glad you're feeling a little more upbeat.

I'm just really tired. I think I've been overdoing it lately and I find it hard to get comfy to sleep at night (I'm only 23 weeks!) How about everyone else?

Disneyland with an unwell toddler = feeling like I've been hit by a bus today. C has had a fever on and off since Saturday, is coughing like a banshee and is generally being a bugger about eating - he's even refusing milk at times. It's making our holiday really stressful :(

Oh no tri :( I hope he is soon well again.

How is the poorly toddler tri?

So I think I felt the baby move on the outside just now......have been feeling it move this week but only inside and not convincingly but this time I had the same feeling and also felt a hardness on the outside that moved when I pressed on it.

But now I'm doubting myself, probably wind?! I'm 18+5 and have a posterior placenta if that matters.

Eek just, how exciting! Definitely could be baby. I think it's easier to feel on the outside when you're also feeling it on the inside. Soon your partner will be able to feel the movement through your belly too! And see it! My little one can make a good visible belly kick at 24 weeks.

Things have been mad busy here with life stuff. Please continue to keep everything crossed for me on the moving house front. I'm seeing the midwife on Tuesday after what seems like forever. I started my therapy but I don't have high hopes... She seems to know less about it than me which would be fine if she just stuck to guiding me through like I want. The woman thinks she's Freud reincarnated (which would be a bad thing anyway!).

How is everyone else?

He's better now thankfully - last week was rough though! I'm about 80% sure he had a sinus infection, saw similar bright yellow goo oozing from his nose one of the days to what I get when I have them (and I've had a LOT) and his breath was rotten for a few days. He's back to being a relatively happy kid this week, sleeping well as well (bed just after 8 last night, one waking for cuddles and I had to go and wake him for milk at 7:30!).

22+3 here now, lots of movement going on. Felt like baby shifted a bit on Saturday night and I've felt a lot more movement since then. I have an anterior placenta and I think it was in the way a bit.

Glad he's better tri, poor wee mite, sinus infections are the worst. I have had loads too.

pretzel fingers tightly crossed for the move. I could do with some luck on mine, bloody house won't sell!

I think it is movement then

Yeah I'd say movement for sure just. I had a few times where I could feel either a back or bum pressed up again my front that made bump very hard.

Glad DS is better tri

GX for all home-based plans. Likewise I could use some for car buying. Turns out the specific model we were looking at had a major factory recall so I feel like we're back to square one.

Gx on the house selling just

nova are you buying new or used? I'll need a new car around February and I'm not sure what to go for. We generally drive old bangers though!

Finding it really hard to switch off and go to bed. Everyone else has been asleep for two hours now!

Used pretzel as DH and I don't like finance options on cars, just not for us. But still newer than any car we've bought before (a 13-15 reg we're thinking). Hope you managed to fall asleep!

I'm going to head to GP today and ask them to check for UTI. Never had one before but have a couple of symptoms.

Oh and I never mentioned, we've bought almost all the big stuff! (Furniture, car seat, pram etc). Getting delivered in December

Yay Nova for getting the big stuff sorted :) What pram and car seat did you get?

We got the M&P's Ocarro carrycot/pushchair. It looked super comfy, had big back wheels, big basket and just felt really smooth and easy to manoeuvre. Can't fold with one-hand so we'll see if that's an issue but a close friend has one and really rated it.

And the Maxi Cosi Pebble Plus, we decided to go for that one because the ISOfix base can do rear-facing in the next size up. It all felt like a bit of a minefield, so many options, but we did some research and hopefully they work out for us.

Wow, Nova that is really organised!

How are you feeling just?

Hope tomorrow goes well with the midwife Pretzel.

I'm another one who is really suffering with insomnia. I've found my perinatal MH team rubbish, my midwife is supposed to be giving me extra support at appointments but I am not seeing her again until Christmas! I've got some medication but they make me feel awful and don't help so feeling a bit lost about where to go really. None of it is helped with two teething toddlers either.

fuzzy sorry the midwives are being rubbish. Seems a bit lax. Can you change tablets?

I have a stomach bug on top now which has been horrid. Feeling a bit better today though and less sick than I was before so fingers crossed I'm turning a corner.

Definitely movement, can feel it a lot on the outside too so that's exciting