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Due in Sept '07 - part 3 - The Blooming Stage !?!

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canadianmum · 09/03/2007 10:15

Due to recent sad news and at the suggestion of others, I have started this new thread. Let's hear everyone's news.......

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Holly29 · 02/04/2007 09:09

A 'good' weekend obviously...

EnormousChangesAtTheLastMinute · 02/04/2007 10:03

glad your dh is bearing up Holly! they do come into their own at times like this don't they?

i am loitering in a darkened room with killer headache which i've had for three days. I should be at work and feel like a right slacker but the sun's out and i can't stand it! keep telling myself it can't last forever and to pull myself together it's only a headache but urgh when it's bad it's v v bad. not too awful at the moment.

good luck with the hypnobirthing. i had a brush with a practitioner last time round (in an attempt to get rid of headaches!) who told me to breath through my vagina and everything would be alright. oh, and that's £80 please. i did give it a go at home with tape she made me but completely forgot when i went to hospital. i do vaguely recall attempting to tell myself i was 'opening like a flower' but must admit all it did was give me a new respect for daffodils.

but hope springs eternal and i still have a hypnobirth cd and a cd of relaxing music for birth which i will try to listen to this time - and remember to take to the hospital. lovely dh has blown my birthing ball up over the weekend so natural birth prep here i come!

FlossALump · 02/04/2007 11:40

ECATLM PMSL at respect for the daffodils! I remember with DS the midwife blowing her stinkey breath in my face telling me to breath through the pain and in my head all I could think was 'fck off fck off f*ck off'.

I too am a bit monstrous atm. DP and I had a discussion over supper on saturday night. He wanted chinese takeaway and I really didn't. Was offering to cook spag bol, which I really fancied. However, by the time we reached the end of the debate it was nearly 8p so DP went out to get a microwavable one rather than me make it (I know, how lazy am I?). He then proceeded to come home with a bolognaise pasta bake. Not spaghetti bolognaise. I cried. Dp completely baffled by the whole thing, demanding I stop crying, which only made it worse! I did so very much want spag bol with actual spaghetti and no fatty cheese sauce on top!

yesterday was a lovely day though. We took DS to the seaside and he was delighted! 'outside' is apparently the seaside. He had a lovely time and was mostly a very well behaved little boy. We went on the 2p machines in an arcade where daddy was trying to win him a little car. The manager walked past and DS piped up 'car please!' which the manager then went and got for him as he'd asked so nicely! nearly cried then too... We also had a lovely roast dinner in the evening in a pub with a conservatory restuarant near to us, overlooking the river.

Laksa, I'll certainly see you and you'll certainly see me if we are at the same wedding!

Holly, glad all is ok with the babies HB.

To top it all off its my day to work today but I'm on holiday so DS is at CM's and I have only just got up. Lovely!

Pennypops · 02/04/2007 13:01

Hi all,

I will be attempting to address my comments to the right people today The hormones are clearly making me into more of a jellyhead than ever. Holly - totally with you on the mood swings. Random tearful events abounded at the weekend - all I could think of was how one friend of mine seemed to sail through her pregnancy. No puking, spots, bad hair days and the neatest bump you ever did see. AND she delivered on her due date. I sobbed on my dh on Sunday because I felt so inadequate by comparison. I know I shouldn't compare but I did.

Still haven't felt my alien move either which I'm getting so impatient for.....

MrsMar · 02/04/2007 13:08

Hello all, I've been away in Switzerland skiing for the past week, so been trying to catch up on all the news. I'm glad everyone's well, and welcome to the newbies.

I'm feeling a bit guilty as I seem to be really lucky, I haven't had any headaches to speak of, or any hormonal tears or bad tempers. Morning sickness has totally gone too, bar a couple of surges of nausea last week. Mustn't speak too soon, but fingers crossed. Sorry for the others with headaches, ms and hormonal craziness, I hope everything all settles down soon.

I still have the odd irrational moment about the baby. Trying not to worry about the 20 week scan (why do they give them such horrible names like anomoly scans?) I can't really feel the baby yet, have had a few fizzes which my mum says are wind, but they're too near the front of my tummy to be wind, so I think it might be the baby, but they only happen maybe once a day and only if I really concentrate. I don't really have a noticeable bump, just fat, although if I do pull my tummy taut you can see a bulge. My boobs are still huge and I've got nipples like fighter pilots thumbs (as my bil delightfully referred to my sisters when she was pg, quite appropriate though!) so I guess everything's still all there.

I have had some strange muscle like pains, not cramps but sharper, muscular pains. I guess that's everything stretching.

I'm glad everything turned out ok re the spotting laksa, I do feel fortunate to have not had anything like that, it must be such a worry.

My only food cravings (apart from a week of orange craziness at 9 week - 4 a day!!!) is for salt and vinegar crisps. Isn't it wierd quite a few of us seem to have that one. Dh nearly puked the other day when I ate a whole jar of pickled onions in the car on the way back from the supermarket, but I've always loved them.

I'm feeling pretty fat now, I've put on a total of 9lbs since conception. I'm still not in maternity clothes but might have to relent soon, I'm down to about three pairs of trousers I can wear now, and I have to undo the top button of all of them when I sit down!

I did have a really piggy week last week though so I'm not surprised. I decided that being on holiday was a great excuse to eat loads of fatty food, so hard to resist all that chocolate and fondue in Switzerland, and I figured as I was skiing I deserved a bit more food! hehehe!

The skiing itself was great, we had the best week of the season in Verbier, brilliant sunshine and lots of snow. I was very sensible, we weren't on the slopes until 10am most days, had a drink at 11.30, lunch around 1 and then finished skiing around 3pm. I avoided all blacks, and although I felt tired occasionally, and needed a nap most afternoons, I felt pretty good. I kept telling myself all that mountain air and exercise was good for the baby!

On the subject of cheese (a long time ago I know) I've not really craved it, but last week I had a cheese fondue and some baked brie. Both were bubbling hot so I figured it was ok. My mum (who grew up in France) always poo poos the cheese thing, saying all french women eat all cheeses during pregnancy. I've had grilled haloumi this pregnancy too, and so far no ill effects. Its strange because I'm not missing any of the things I can't eat, pate, booze etc. I did allow myself two beers last week, and the rare steaks everyone ate last week looked great, but if it's not in front of me, I'm not that bothered.

Blimey, I've rambled!!! I hope everyone's well and enjoying this lovely sunshine (I hope everyone's got sunshine where they are!) xx

MrsMar · 02/04/2007 13:10

sorry, forgot a couple of people asked about my work. I hate to disappoint, I work in the really unglamourous side of telly, news. No celebs, no party lifestyle, no champers and fabulousness unfortunately!

sophus · 02/04/2007 14:08

hi all
what a glorious day it is. Partner still away so had a 'me' weekend. Dinner with girlfriends Friday night. Lie in Sat morning, breakfast in bed with the cat and the radio, read newspaper and did crossword. Sheer bliss.
Finally found some maternity clothes i liked at a wonderful independent shop near me. Really classic clothes with decent upholstery for a 39 year old + bump on whom gravity is taking its toll.
D went to Baby Gap in the US and bought lots of stuff and apparently got lots of praise from the (female) shop assistants for choosing it all by himself. He's feeling very proud at conquering his first public hurdle as a dad-to-be.
Going to venture to the swimming pool today and see if i sink or swim...
Enjoy the sunshine MTBs and bumps.
S
x

canadianmum · 02/04/2007 20:05

Hello all, school holidays are keeping me busy with my two boys so not as much time to visit the boards, unfortunately.

Another mtb keen on salt and vinegar crisps too, weird .

I am feeling much healthier now, not craving so much junk and I can finally eat a nice fillet of fish which I had gone off before. Unusual craving for spinach yesterday too!

I am sure I can feel movement now too, normally after a cup of tea when sitting down (I am 16+2 today)

Anyone else get birch tree hayfever? I only found out I had it last year. I felt sneezy today and had itchy eyes, checked the BBC pollen forecast and sure enough there is a high pollen count for birch. Lasts about 4 weeks but seems I can't take anything for it during pregnancy - will just have to sneeze and bear it

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PurpleLostPrincess · 02/04/2007 22:39

That's strange - I usually love salt & vinegar crisps but I've gone off them lol!

I too have been sneezing today but my hayfever tends to vary from year to year and I'm grateful I don't seem to be too bad so far... Hope yours eases off!

FlossALump, I just read your story about spaghetti bolognaise to my dh - it sounds just like us and I completely understand! Its that dazed, confused and yet frustrated look that they give when faced with this creature overwhelmed with hormones - bless them!

I had an ice-cream from the ice-cream van this afternoon and suddenly (afterwards) had a thought - are we allowed soft ice-cream?

sparks02 · 02/04/2007 23:10

Hi everyone
I've been keeping quite in the background but really enjoy reading this thread...
I'm now 18 weeks and still haven't felt any sign of baby moving.... everyone else seems to have felt something much earlier than this so i hope i feel something soon. Have my 5 month scan in 2 weeks though so looking forward to that.

Glad to hear everyone's pg is going well but sorry for those of you still with morning sickness.

Mine seemed to stop right on 3 months, but i still get the occasional episode - like at my best friends wedding recently when i was violently ill in a flower pot after the main course of thai food........... after a similar incident with chinese I decided my baby doesn't do spicy food....

Pennypops · 03/04/2007 09:51

Hello Sparks, I am 18 weeks tomorrow and still haven't felt anything either so you aren't alone. Is this your first pg? If so, apparently it can be anything up to about 20-22 weeks. I have to keep telling myself this.

PLP - soft ice cream has to be allowed surely? If it was home made it would be iffy (egg yolks) but any mass produced stuff should be fine. I hope. I am starting to get very cynical over this huge list of banned substances. I read somewhere that there had only been 2 cases of dairy listeria in the last 20 years in the UK and one of those was from butter. Women in Europe eat most of the stuff we are told not to and seem fine.

EdieMcredie · 03/04/2007 09:58

Well I would be a very happy woman if I could eat pate

If we lived in France/Spain we wouldn't be taking any notice of it.

Aaaarrgghh headache again!!!

laksa · 03/04/2007 10:45

Hi guys,

On the icecream front, the reason they tell you not to eat softserve (mr whippy) from icecream vans is because the bacteria can live in those churning machines if not cleaned regularly...its a small risk like so many of the others but thought you'd want to know the facts.

The risk of getting listeria from these banned cheeses (and soft serve icecream) is very,very low, but listeria is something you really don't want to get when pregnant as it carries a very high risk of death to the foetus.

Its a pain in the arse as I am a very contrary person and always want what I can't have. I actually don't like brie that much but now really really want it

ECATLM, the flower petal analogy was banded about but I told the practitioner that there was no way I could picture my uterus and cervix in this way (did biology at uni and guess I am quite a graphic person) and so I had another image to focus on instead...you don't want to know.

The one thing I don't like when I see these birthing scenes on tv is when the midwife tells the woman (in a very condescending voice) to push like she is doing a poo...I know that is what you're supposed to do but I think if I get this I will slap someone. I've already told the dh he better not act like some of the dads I've seen who seem to talk to their partners like they are children, me not like...

Actually this is leads me to a question for all those who actually have given birth before. Sorry if tmi. You know when they tell you to push as if pooing...is this really the case as I always thought you used the muscles in your vagina/pelvic floor. I can push a tampon out of my vagina but I don't use the same push action that I would for doing a poo. I am a bit confused.

Okay thats enough rambling on.

xx

NewDKmum · 03/04/2007 10:49

Hiya! Haven't posted for a while, but I too now seem to be emerging from the bad place that is morning sickness Glad to hear that pregnancies are progressing well!

To add to the food discussion - I was born in Denmark, but moved to the UK 3 years ago and my old friends think I am positively hysterical when I tell them what foods I am avoiding. They happily chomp away on brie and liver patés in pregnancy - even one who is training to become a midwife.

Anyone got nice plans for Easter - we are going to PIL's, so looking forward to a realxing few days with round the clock babysitters competing to entertain dd

Nettee · 03/04/2007 11:33

Laksa - yes it really does feel like when you have a poo. I think it is because the pressure is on the perineum which is the tissue between the two exits - so it is in the same place for both. I had an epidural so didn't feel quite everything but what I did feel was all in my bottom and I pushed DS out in an hour (quite good for first time) by pushing like I was poohing.

At work I am always telling women to push into their bottoms (I really hope I don't sound condisending) but it does seem to help them push in the right place. So it is quite likely you will hear this unless you say that you know and you don't want them to say it! Loads of women say they feel like they need to pooh when it is actually the baby.

laksa · 03/04/2007 11:55

Sorry nettee, didn't mean to imply that I thought that midwives talk down to the women in their care. I think I am just one of those stroppy types that like to be in control and can't stand being told what to do...

I'm sure when I'm in labour I'll be glad of the support and clarification of how to push.
xx

Hopeitwontbebig · 03/04/2007 13:21

Hi Laksa, I remember with DS1 very quietly 'suggesting' to my midwife that I felt like I needed to do a pooh, not the sort of thing you say to someone you've only met a few hours previously, but Nettee is right, it really does feel like that, the midwife told me it was the pressure of the baby on my back passage, also something to do with getting the baby 'round the bend' in your uterus, hence pushing with your bottom. Lovely!!

I'm just surviving school hols at moment. Hope everyone is well. x

Hopeitwontbebig · 03/04/2007 14:16

Purple, I've just been reading your thread on the pregnancy page. I had NO idea about MrWhippy ice cream, it just wouldn't have occured to me to be a problem. I say well done you for sussing it!! I REALLY wanted a Mr Whippy on Sunday, but there weren't any icecream vans to be found, so had a cornetto instead, thank goodness. See, you cliche is wrong, you are a clever girl, yes you are!! PS, I used to be blonde and have irish blood!

I had an embarrassing pregnant brain incident yesterday, I turned up for a girly/kids get together yesterday an hour early!!! I hadn't read my text properly, do'h!!

Now, who knows what the rules are re goats cheese??? Is english goats cheese safe?

Holly29 · 03/04/2007 15:25

Laksa

Am totally with you. Did you ever watch that episode of Sex and the City when Miranda gave birth, and she had expressly told Carrie to tell the doctors and midwives not to speak to her like a child? Every time they started to get all 'cheerleadery' Carrie scowled at them? That's so what I am going to be like! I'd better write it all down in my birth plan...

Am sad about the Mr. Whippy conclusions we have reached. Still, will stock up on cornettos instead. x

FlossALump · 03/04/2007 16:47

well I've had the whippy ice creams! Ah well.

I made several trips to the toilet when in labour with DS1. This was around the time I seemed to be in transition IIRC. I was attempting to bite DP's arm at the time. It looked biteable! At this stage the midwife still didn't believe I was in established labour...

MMooMar · 03/04/2007 16:59

Hi Ladies ( and any newbies that I have not welcomed!)
Hope everyone is "glowing".
Not posted for a while but have kept up with the thread.

Talking Mr Whippy ice creams,I really could have killed for one on my last stint( and I am not a ice cream lover) but knew of the risks so settled for cornettos but never really did the trick.Then when DS arrived it never bothered me again until now and the old craving has popped back up.....bugger it!

Bums and poos....last time round I really thought I was going to do one there and then and started to get wound up over it,but then I had a spinal block so could`nt feel anything so I dont know if I ever did.But defo the pressure is all in the bum.

Been having really bad nights ,cant get to sleep,then dream for England when I do.Last few nights DS has had me up a few times and I dont know why ,normally he will sleep through til the morning.Been having like heart palpatations(sp?)too makes me feel really wierd.I know you can get them in your 3rd trimester but not the second so I am going to ask the Midwife tomorrow as I have got my 16 wk check .She is coming to the house but this will be my only home visit.They only came round once last time but I don`t really know why they do.A friend told me that she was told that they ask to see where the baby will be sleeping but they never asked me last time round. does anyone know? If they do ask they will be greeted by a Tip of a spare room that has yet to have the computer and office stuff moved out....oh well...will get round to doing it eventually.

laksa · 03/04/2007 17:46

Holly, know the episode, do you think we are the anal retentive types

Talking of dreams the past 2 nights I've had some really gory ones. In one I dreamt I was having a fight with that japanese school girl from KILL BILL and I hacked the back of her head in with a samauri sword...blood everywhere.

In last nights I dreamt that me and dh ran over our next door neighbour and then we decided to hack her body up and hide it.
She is a very nice lady so don't know where that one came from

toadstool · 03/04/2007 18:44

Hello all,

Had 15 wk check today, heard heartbeat. LO swimming away from the machine all the time.
No insight into poos as had epidural and felt and saw nothing (and cared even less, tbh).
HIWBB, Why should English goat's cheese be safer than any other? (stirring it a bit ) The key is to make sure it's pasteurized, so I'm told. But then I have a French dad and was warned against being fussy over cheese('You are rejecting the diet of 20 generations!'), and know nothing of Mr Whippy, so I'm off to check that thread immediately.

Have a good evening...

canadianmum · 03/04/2007 19:05

Mmoomar, I have had a few weird heart palpitations too. In my last pregnancy I had a racing heartbeat at about 18 weeks and rushed off to the GP to be told "Ah well, yes, sometimes that happens, come back if it continues...." but it didn't. So I can't be bothered this time . I think I was last told to breathe slowly and relax when the palpitations happen, but defo a good idea to ask your midwife. All that extra blood flow probably does something weird to our hearts ?!?!

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canadianmum · 03/04/2007 19:08

re: Mr Whippy - I luckily suffer from weird Mr Whippy phobia and refuse to eat them or give them to my children as I am convinced they are swimming in bacteria much like those sausage stands you see at big events. However, I am a complete hypocrite because if I am ever in New York I have to have a hot dog from a dodgy hot dog stand .

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