Due in June - you toucha my bump, I smasha your face!

[bumperlicious]

Just thought I'd better kick a new one off...
Another day, another tearful outburst at work! It's getting very embarrassing Is it just me who feels like crying at the drop of a hat? Maybe it's lack of sleep, just not dealing very well with things that would not normally bother me, then something really small sets me off. cried in the toilets for 20 minutes today! Can't even explain why. Is this normal still at this stage?

Sorry guys! Just a quick skim and seen you were worried. Thanks soooo much! I've been away for the weekend and without internet
I seem to be fine. Nothing else happened re: pinky mucus (urgh) so haven't done anything. Sorry to worry you!
Btw, everyone keeps saying things like 'phone your midwife' etc. Am I missing something? If I want to get hold of my midwife I have to phone an 0845 number, leave a message and hope that someone might possibly get back to me. I rang last Tuesday to see if I could change my next appointment (so I don't have to have anti-D jab on my birthday ) and she hasn't called back. Do you guys actually have a number that get you through to a midwife - should I be jealous ?

Glad you are ok Marylou. I had the same thing a couple of weeks ago, and felt so bad because I had had a glass of red wine, thought I had put the LO into a coma or something!

Came back from my weekend to flowers and a mother's day card! Bless DH!

you bugger

glad you are OK, anyway.

I have a number, but its always go through to the ansaphone. Is that the dr's surgery number? Or midwife clinic?

xx

Yay - good news for marylou and bumper's back!

Bumper - I have a mobile number for my midwife but she emphasised it is only to be used during 'office' hours (she told me she has regular calls at 3am from worried mums to be).

I hope you are all getting fried egg sarnies in bed with a lie-in and lilkel, your kitchen to be sounds lovely and serene.

Sorry . Foxy the number goes through to the midwife clinic. Maybe I will bring it up next time I see her, I'm sure as time goes on I'm only going to have more questions etc. The midwife care round here, at least for me, has been pretty non-existent.

Anyway, Foxy, I saw on another thread you said your day was crap. What's up?

Glad to hear you are ok Bumper and Marylou.
Marylou I had the exact same thing yesterday morning when I realised a while after I woke up that I hadn't felt anything. Usually I get babyaerobics in the morning. Eventually he moved after breakfast but I was starting to get worried. I suppose you get used to them moving at certain times.

Did you try loud music? Other night I noticed this baby rocking to TaraPT on Fame Academy, but was strangely quiet through the rest. Obviously has my dodgy taste in music.

Oh Bumperlicious! My DP is an arse.

We had a blazing, vicious row at 4am. I'd been awake at 12 (when he'd got home having been away for 4 days, 3 jolly, 1 work), 2 when DD got into my bed and 4am when she had a tantrum because I'd only give her water and not a bottle of milk. DP had gone to bed in her room as she was in his spot so I told her to go and see him. She cried for 10 mins at his door, waking the boys up, and he still didn't wake up for her. So I lost my temper at him. He gave her a bottle of milk and put her back in bed with me. Of course I didn't want that 'cos she's been sick everytime she had milk and I've just done 4 nights in a row of sicky bed changing as it is. So we had a massive row. DS2 woke up and heard it then got into bed with his dad for a cuddle.

He'd already hi-jacked Mothers Day because he'd arranged to go to a rugby match with his mate. When I'd pointed out it was Mother's day he said he'd take the boys. Frankly, I want to spend the day with all of my babies or none of them so I can relax. I had decided that we could all go to the match, but didn't get a chance to talk to him about it as he wasn't here and I barely had time to talk to him on the phone.

Anyway, I'm stuck here with DD who is whining (and I've just shouted at her) and DS1 who hasn't stopped complaining all day (he refused to go to the rugby).

And DP didn't get up til 8.45 this morning. DS1 had been up for hours watching Power Rangers (Devil's TV) on his own.

I can't stop crying, am f*ing miserable. I've got a pain in my head, DD's tummy bug, and he announced he was going shopping tomorrow to get himself some clothes. Oh, and a mother's day present for me because I hadn't told him what I'd wanted.

And I saw a mouse last night.

God, I'm bet you are glad you asked! Am I being unreasonable?

Sorry for the rant. I'm going to go and eat a tub of Carte D'Or Lavazza ice cream.

Grrr, what a PITA Foxy, men just don't get it do they? And I bet he gets to come in like a knight on a white steed to your DC's coz they've been with you all week when you've been coping with DD, probably (and quite rightly) stressed and tired, and he has been away all week. I hope he buys you something fantastic to make up for it.

You're not being unreasonable at all. This is the problem with things like mother's day, we all heap such a lot of expectation on these days and they will never be as good as we think or hope they will. I'm the same with my birthday, I am always disappointed because birthdays mean such a lot to me and I just want everything to be perfect, and DH has such a lot of pressure and it makes him so stressed. The trouble is that he doesn't really care about his own, and I expect your DP doesn't particularly care about father's day in the same way, so they just don't realise, it's these little days that count for us.

Don't worry about your DC's they'll perk up soon, and forget you ever shouted at them. Enjoy your ice cream - think of it as essential medicine for your sanity and for the protection of your children. In fact you owe it to your children to eat the ice cream!

The things is, he does care about Fathers day and he wouldn't want it to go unnoticed.

He wasn't here last year and we had a lovely time without him! He's only here 'cos he made an effort to come back for the match! Normally, like my birthday, hes away. I made a joke about him making it up for my B'day this year and he said how it was all about me, me, me and didn't I understand he's working? Go*ite, f**khead.

He did buy cards from the kids. Made tea and toast (they are only 5, 4 and 2) but I'd had to wait in bed an hour because they wanted to give me breakfast in bed and he didn't get up.

Frankly after the week I had, compared to the week HE had, I'd've f*ing well expected to be treated like a princess anyway. Grrrrrrrrrrrr.

Sorry, Bumperlicious, I really do appreciate your support. I'm just pissed off.

Oh foxy, poor you ! If you were near me I'd come round and make you dinner and cake (and I'd bring a bottle of wine )!! I think, like bumper said, you put so much expectation on these days that when they turn out shit you get really upset. I'm sure your dp will make it up to you. Hopefully he'll buy you a lovely present for being a wanker! Hope you get an early night xxxx

Oh and bumper, glad you're ok! We've been worried!! And marylou, glad you are ok too !! Your baby was clearly trying to trick you, sneaky little boy!

Foxy, poor you. Really feel for you, and it's always worse when you're knackered and overwraught too... I do think men are wired differently from women. I find personally that subtle hints just don't work - if I want something from DH (whether it's a weekend away, meal out, present, birthday cake, you name it), I have to tell him, be specific and then remind him . But when I do all of those things, he does come good. I think men (most of them, anyway) just don't do that thing that women do of remembering little comments and picking up on meaningful looks... Nor do they really understand that their being away has much bearing on anything. DH can happily compartmentalise everything whereas to me it's the whole picture that matters...
Maybe you need to talk to him when everthing's calmer and just tell him that he upset you and see what he says. I did that when I got pissed off with DH recently for being drunken oaf and once he saw it from my point of view he felt terrible and called up five times the following day to say how sorry he was.
ANyway, hope you manage to enjoy the rest of the day - ice cream is exactly what's called for in my opinion!

thank you lovely ladies. yes, he is a wanker. but I am over it now.

I just want him to come home, I've missed DS2 and feel just a wee bit rejected...

Glad you are feeling better foxy. I'll make you a virtual glass of wine and I've got some Malteasers if you wanna share!! Hopefully he'll come home soon bearing apologies and kisses!!

He's not home yet, and not answered his phone. He's probably taken DS2 to pub with his mate Grrrrrrrrrrr. Its bedtime in 30 mins. He's only 4!

How about we crush the maltesers and sprinkle them over the coffee ice cream? A la Jamie Oliver receipe?

Mmmmm...classy!! Sounds good, I've got some Maryland cookies too, we'll crumble them on as well for good measure!

Hi ladies - sorry to hear that M-day is rather a source of stress instead of pleasure. For my part, DH didn't know till yesterday so it's been just an ordinary day for us. Except my ugly red kitchen is now a messy white/primed one! hooray!! Tomorrow we put the real colour on. Sooooo excited. I loathed that dreadful red colour. Blech.

Foxy, just have to say that if my DH did that to me, I'd have gotten seriously upset and flat refused to tolerate any further antics e.g. rugby, keeping kids out too late, generally forgetting the effort you've gone through lately...but then I'm a very demanding partner whereas some others are way more easygoing in that dept. I mean, not answering his phone?? That alone would make my blood boil. on your behalf!!! ((hugs)) As for solving it, I second the vote to tell him exactly what he did and why it doesn't work for you. Good luck.

As for the bumps, anyone else feeling like an absolutely giant WHALE?? I've put on 10kg so far and can def tell. It's all in my arse... Having big problems facing the fact I've got 10 weeks more of this...OMG i'm going to be GINORMOUS!

IKWYM lilkel. Today I put on a maternity skirt I haven't worn for a couple of weeks and it fitted me perfectly. The last time I wore it it kept falling down. Clearly I have grown somewhat since then. I feel like a house! I'm ok if I look in the mirror face on, but if I turn sideways I look like a heifer! My arse is nearly as big as my bump! I suppose it's my fault really, too much cheese and chocolate!

Do different things happen with your second pregnancies? I'm really feeling a lot more twinges and tightenings this time round. Is that because my body knows what's happening already? I take it as a good sign. Maybe this baby will arrive a couple of weeks early instead of a couple of weeks late!! I'm thinking 38 weeks would be perfect! I bet I'm still here at 42!

Hey, I was wondering about the 2nd pg too. I've def got more cramps this time round. Before it was mostly stretching pains down the sides. This time I've not had those (was stretched already I guess!! ). Had a right scare last week when changing DS and huge cramp hit me. It felt just like a labour pain. OMG I was in a panic. But didn't get any more that day and only incidentally since...still it's worrying.

DS came at 37 weeks and suffered because of it so really hoping to make it to my section at 39 this time. Even if I do have to dress in sheets a la Grecian togas...

Did everyone read this thread? conversations with little ones I was literally crying with laughter...

I keep getting period like pains and tightenings. I think they're BH. Sometimes, like now, I get the tightenings without the pain and my tummy goes rock hard and really tight. Sometimes I can't breathe properly or stand up straight. I had none of this whilst pg with my dd. It's really bizarre, this pregnancy has been different in every way. Last time I woke up every morning feeling like I wanted to die and this time I feel ok, just really tired. I am planning a home birth and I'm a bit scared. DD was born in 4 hours from the start of the first contraction to her cord being cut. I can see me giving birth on the living room carpet with just my dp for company (BTW he hates blood and would have fainted before the head came out, so I'd actually be on my own!!).

ooh, H&A a homebirth! How lovely! I'm a huge fan of them.

I think that because everythings been stretched and slackened by 1st PG things are different. I'm getting sharp, stitch like pains up and down my sides.

Afterpains certainly get worse the more babies you have. Be warned!

Hey foxy, you early bird!! I'm a bit frightened of the home birth thing, but I hated being in hospital and I like the idea of getting into my own bed and eating my own food afterwards! My mw is all for it as well, she got really excited when I told her, apparently she loves them!! Did your labours get shorter each time?

Oh and hope everything is ok with your dp x

Yes, not only were the labours shorter, the whole experience was made so much easier and more pleasant by doing it at home. For a start, there are no shift changes, no MRSA, and you get to use your own loo! I thought that I wouldn't be allowed to have no 4 at home because of greater risks, but my MV told me not to be daft. My MV team love a homebirth. Last time they didn't have to do anything, got here at 5am and left by 8am!

Don't be scared, its the best way to do it, honestly!

And fraid not, things are still bad. Not helped by me accusing him of favouritism this morning.