Due April 2007 - Pregnant women aren't just walking wombs on legs

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We all seem to be having a tough time of it in one way or another so this seemed quite appropriate somehow!

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What a weird little system that is!! Probably get more weird looks for that than dropping out norks in public!
Forgot about the dripping on the feet thing! Oh the joys.

mammyjo please tell me the name of the seller, the only ones I could find were £37. I have e-mailed sellers of 2nd hand ones too, but they are all medium, I'll need a large one.

Was thinking of trying those Lilypadz things this time - anyone heard of them/tried them? here

Ds used to do it all the time, would be happily feeding him then someone would walk in the room and he'd whip his head around and give them a big milky grin leaving me all exposed Also at home he used to try and feed and watch telly at the same time!

Have to say i never had very leaky boobs or very much milk so didnt have that to contend with. The only times my boobs ever hurt from being so full was when i had a night out and ds would go to dps for the night having formula and in the morning id start to leak abit and be quite uncomfortable but that was it. I never had my painful boobs with milk coming in or anything. But on the downside it meant they both were slow gaining weight, i could not express anything really and they fed constantly!

So am hoping this time to do more to increase my supply and alos hoping that stress was a factor in it before and as i am much happier now and more settled that this will help. Although before getting pg i thought my previous bad morning sickness was due to stress so would be better this time but it was worse than ever

lol pesha @ ds exposing you they do have perfect timing dont they.

Giant, rock hard, heavy, dripping norks, ahh yes it is all coming back to me now.....havint to wear a bra and pads in bed and still waking up in a pool of milk..... oh and lovely stream of milk that leaks into your bath as soon as you hit the water..

Emmymummy (i think it was)- i hated the fact that my body wasn't my own still. Hasn't put me off trying again but i can honestly understand where your coming from.

Blimey, another plethera of posts.

I am afraid I am in the bottle feeding camp. I never felt comfortable with the concept of breast feeding - seemed too animalistic for me, and then Becky and I didn't get on with it at all. Tried all sorts and in the end it was stressing everyone out, and was causing problems with me and B bonding, so I gave up after a week and bottle fed. I admire people who can do it and enjoy it, but not for me!!

How are we all this evening then?

WO, how have things been?

I saw my mw this afternoon, and all well. Heatbeat 150, blood pressure all ok, baby measuring 1 cm smaller than dates, but no big deal. She thinks bean is heading downwards, but won't be engaged for a while. So, all in all v successful.

Dh in Glasgow today and won't be back until about 10.00 - boo. Could really do with him being around as am knackered. I really don't know how single mums/those with dh's/dp's who are away a lot, cope. Hats off to you.

Right, ladyship is requesting toast, so I must obey!

Back later.

Mmk, if you just put freedom slings into the search box you will find them. There are a few different types but I have ordered the basic freedom sling which she recommended. The standard one fits up to size 20 (I am an 18 so size was a factor) or if you want something different I think she will custom make it for you.

Yes, yes, yes Bubblez, that's exactly it! Yuk soggy sheets, soggy nightie, soggy bra.....

I have a friend who hated bfing so much that she went cold turkey after a couple of weeks, so rather than giving up slowly she sat with her tits dripping into ice-cream containers for a few days until the milk dried up.

Oh dear, have we managed to put any of the first-timers off?

Oh god, just read properly and have been reminded about waking up in a pool of milk. I also remember the fact that I felt like I smelled of stale milk despite showering regularly.

Barf.

Helloooo. Have been lurking but not posting today.

Has Weeonion checked back in since she went off to the hospital this morning?

bubblez The thing to remember about expressing is to keep it consistent, and always to use what you express (broadly speaking - unless you get p*ssed and pump&dump ). Otherwise, you can have problems with build up and mastitus (sp?). I recommend expressing once a day, although I have to say that I wasn't great at expressing first time around, and I have bought a little electric pump this time, in the hope that I'll get more out (so to speak!). Some people express while feeding, as they find their supply better then; others prefer to do it alone while watching telly. Whatever works for you, I think. My MW believed that first thing in the morning was best, as the milk supply had a chance to replenish in that the baby wouldn't be feeding so often in the night (HA!).

But you will probably get more confident out and about anyway, especially if you have a sling or shawl to disguise your bits. And do remember, by the time they are popping your nipple in and out of their mouth, they are bfing less anyway, so you can more easily keep it for the house if you want to.

I am beginning to feel very decadent, as I really don't give a monkey's about where I bf, except in the loo; I have a rule that no member of my family will ever need to eat their meal in a toilet. But then I really don't have any norks worth the name, so it is very easy for me to be discreet. Oh well

Anyone got any VBAC experience in exchange for my bfing stuff? I am hoping to go for a VBAC and am pretty nervous. Have read all the stuff but a lot of it is contradictory and I'd rather hear it from people I trust who've managed it successfully, iyswim.

Dont think she has yet, dont remember seeing a post from her yet. Hope everything is ok with her.

Bugmum - my friend has had 2 successful VBACs and was really pleased - she's a singer and horrified by what her first C/section did to her stomach muscles! I think she got most of her info from a website or an NCT e-group? As far as I can tell, it sounds pretty safe and standard these days, as long as you're in hospital for in case anything goes wrong, and as long as they don't induce you.

bugmum - not got any personal experience, but found this page here It's on the homebirth site., but i think stuff is relevant for hospital.

Bramshott & eca - Thanks very much for that!

I hope ive not put anyone off with talk of ds flashing my nipples, it was, as bugmum said, when he was older and feeding less so not so much need to feed in public and after the first couple of times (which were with family i believe, not in a public place) i was prepared so kept my hand on my top by his face ready to whip it down should he pull away!! I have huge nipples/areolas (sp?) so was always paranoid about exposing them and had very flabby belly which got bigger and bigger after having him so if id felt at all exposed feeding him in public i wouldnt have done it. In fact often people would think he was just asleep on my lap until they saw his head moving as he sucked.
And i totally agree with you bugmum, i would never feed my baby in a toilet. You wouldnt expect a bottle feeding mum to feed her baby in a toilet so why should i?! In fact i wouldnt feed myself in a toilet, its yuck!!

I am out and home and babies still in my tum!!!

I am very tired so off to bed but will catch up with you all tomorrow when ds is at nursery. Will also sort out contact details mammyjo.

1B3 - who'd have twins eh?

Oooggs welcome back! Hope all is OK.

Weeonion..sneaked out of hospital ward and texted me at 7pm.They have her strapped up and monitored.Baby heart rate is slow but she thinks they are ok.They are keeping her in for observation.I said i would let you guys know.I am sooo glad they are monitoring her.
Glad things are ok with you OOgs.

Hello everyone.. another mad busy day with the boss in the office and I am absolutely exhausted. My ribs were hurting so much this morning I almost cried on the journey in on the train. DH is going to drive me in tomorrow, what a sweetheart as it is a 50 min round journey for him to then get back to the house and head out the other direction to his work. Love him so much!

Am with you on feeling a bit uncomfy around women bfing slightly older children. I wouldn´t ever say anything either and fully recognise that they are doing the most natural thing in the world and nutritionally it is fantastic for their kids. Still can´t help feeling a bit.. my SIL still feeds her 2 year old and while when her kids were babies (her first lost interest at 9 months) she always used to be quite discreet about it but now just whaps them out at the lunch table and leaves them hanging there for him to jump on and off. But hey, maybe I´ll be the same, who can tell??

WO - hope everything is okay, wait for news xx

Funny to read about freedom slings, I came across them ages ago and was totally convinced I wanted one but I emailed the woman to ask advice on which one and she never responded which I thought was a bit crap. Might have another look, remember thinking they were a good price. I also want a calin bleu wrap sling but think that will be better when lo is a wee bit older.

Pesha LOL at your big nipples - am scared to show my solidarity with you - last time I mentioned my generously proportioned ones I set off a nipple measuring spree. One I did NOT participate but I believe - mammyjo?? - won?? WE´RE NOT ALONE! So I am also slightly funny about other people getting an eyeful but plan to always have a muslin or two on hand for artful draping.

Well girls I´ve got to go I feel dead on my feet today. Only one more day´s work this week though...

Before I go, a girl my mum knows just had her baby this weekend, she was only due 3 weeks before me! But her baby was a month early! It´s all going to start for us soooooon... xx

Bugmum - I have had a vbac - emergency section pre-labour with first as dips in heart rate picked up at antenatal appointment on my due date. Went into labour naturally with ds2 10 days late (felt like 10 years!) - contractions started early evening - went to bed - up at about 1pm - 3am in hospital but only 1cm dilated - but they kept us in private room and gave me some pethidine - woke up about 8am - waters broke - 3cm - down to labour ward - did my 1cm and hour til fully dialted at 2pm- left me for an hour when realised he was back to back and hoping he may turn - didn't - pushed for an hour - no joy - episiotomy & ventouse delivery & lots of stitches! It wasnt traumatic at all and felt quite pleased with myself afterwards. Am going for natural this time - and active - ball, positions etc and avoid epidural so can push the bugger out! They would have given me a section if had gone on any longer as his heart rate started to drop.

Think the same will basically happen this time but I intend to be more involved iyswim!

OOgggs - welcome back!

My norks weren't so leaky but sprayed everyone over quite a distance - another one am saving for PIL!

Thinking of WO - she may have the first spring onion!

Oogs, welcome home, and I hope you can get some rest.

Dooby, thanks ever so much for the update on WO. If you are in contact again with her, please pass on our love and best wishes. What a stressful time eh.

Maveta, sounds like you have had a knackering day. My rib pain has been awful again today - feel it however I sit/stand! Take it easy.

I have the dreaded acid indigestion again, so it's going to be the old minty sperm and an early night. Dh's plane delayed an hour so won't be back until 11.00 p.m. Boo Hiss.

Right, hope everyone has a restful night. Anyone seen anything of Ange?

Night night all. xx