Due in April 2007 - Keep this to yourself ...

[EllieKwithabigbump]

had a flash of inspiration from Katy!
and seeing as our usual topics are quite , seemed appropriate somehow

Hi MIABT, wondered where you had got to. Poor James. It is never ending isn't it?
Sounds nasty for the poor chap. We - touch wood - seem to be bug free at the moment - hurrah!!

Sounds like you have been busy nesting as well. I am going to wait until mat leave starts before I attempt any clear-outs.

Anyway, hope you have a relaxing day and that James feels better soon. Hugs to you both.

Flumpootle - must post this before I forget...
Re Iron Tabs - can't recommend Spatone Iron Supplement enough....it is a water that you add to fruit jiuce. I cannot tolerate oral iron tabs at all and the Spatone has been brillinat - been taking it for over a week and it has made no difference to stomach at all - it's great - about £6 for a 28 day supply - you get it from Holland and Barrett andmost good chemists (if they don't have it they can order it for you - mine did!)
HTH
x

OOgs - Hope you are ok today - my heart went to my mouth when I read your post this morning - what a fright you must have got!

SOSPL - Hiya lovley - thanks for asking after me....I'm fine just some days I haven't felt like I had any posative contribution to make - I sometimes feel all I do is come on here to post a moan!! Glad you are bugfree - it really does sometimes feel like it is a constant string of them!! Thought about you yesterday over the dismissal thing - really felt for you as I had to do a fair bit of that in my old job (pre James)...thing is even if there is good reason for the dismissal us softies always think of the kids etc...Hope your back is better...I think I slept funny last night as between my shoulder blades is sore today.
I think I should also now wait till MAt leave - otherwise how will I possibly fill my days up!? he he
When do you finish? My last day will be 23rd March...seems like ages away.

Emmymummy - I am using James mattress and echo SOSPL and Cazboldy's comments x

Hugs to all - just wanted to add my 10p worth re PIL visiting....
I can't understand how they don't remember how they felt when they had a newborn...surely they must remember that you just want some peace. I will never forget the day we brought James home. I was sitting on the settee and had him attached to the boob when up the garden path came my mother with her new partner who I had never even met yet...So the first time I ever met him he shook my hand with me sat on the couch with my boobs out - I could have KILLED my mother! ....somehow though after giving birth you kind of get used to the worls and his wife having seen your bits and it kind of washes over you. I was all worried about BF ing in public and with FIL and Dad present etc but honestly it did not bother me once James was born. I just got them out disceretly and if people have an issue with it - itis THEIR issue not mine.
Right James has been very good letting me be onhere this long - best go play with some Jigsaws!

Morning! Had a better sleep last night so am determined not to whinge today !

Emmy - I think we'll just keep dd's mattress, it was a nice mammas & papas one and there's been a waterproof cover on it too.

Virtual hugs to poor snotty James, hope he's back to normal soon.

Ooogs - what a fright - hope you're taking it nice & easy.

MIL stayed after I had dd and TBH it really buggered up our relationship - she did nothing to help and I felt awkward trying to feed dd in front of her. Just having someone in the house needing fed & talked to was a strain and DH was working night shifts too. One of the reasons I've hired a doula this time is so that I could ban all visitors from staying for the first 6 weeks!

My mum is diffierent, she & I get on really well and she was a huge help last time. However, with all three of us having babies in quick succession she's going to be a bit overwhelmed with granny-duties and as this'll be middle sister's first baby and other sister having had a caesarian I think they get priority at the moment.

MIABT- Pleased the spatone is working for you, sometimes a bit wary about recommending things just incase people dont find them the same as I did. I had to take them when I was suffering with really bad morning sickness, I couldnt stomach anything, especially not yacky medicine, or huge tablets!!!

GMM - your mum sounds very very similar to mine. I really thought I couldn't say anything but ages ago I posted this question on MN and so many women said NO NO NO that I just bit the bullet and spoke about it. The conversation went kind of like this:
Me - "It's so great we live so close to each other now and it also means you won't need to up sticks and move in for a month after the birth as you'll be right there"
Mum - "Well yes, um, no, because when you really want help is in the night with feeds and changing etc"
Me - "NO. Nights are when me, dh and baby will need time alone as a new family"
Mum - "Oh look at those birds over there"

My mum is a champ at avoiding discussing something she doesn't want to talk about and I knew she was offended but I figure better than short term than long term ruining what is otherwise a fantastic relationship. I also spoke to my Dad to make sure he saw my point of view and could back me up. Whether he did that I don't know but it's not been discussed in any depth since.

I'm sure she'll still turn up at my door like every day but I'm going to rely on the old 'don't answer!' if I don't feel like seeing anyone.

Hi Flumppootle - don't know if this has been mentioned yet as I haven't got to the end of the thread yet! With my memory in its current state I'm just trying to answer as I go along instead of trying to remember it all for one big post at the end!

I have been taking iron in liquid form for a couple of months now and I believe it's supposed to be so much better than the tablets. The taste isn't so bad, like old fashioned medicine, and I've had no problems or side effects whatsoever. I take Ferplex but believe there's a whole ton out there.

Phew! Finally got to the end!
Ooogs- sorry you had a fright and hope you feel better soon, look after yourself x
MIABT - I was getting a similar pain just to the right of the middle of my back, kind of in my ribs, under the shoulder blade. For the last few nights I've been sleeping propped up by two giant sofa cushions and have slept like an angel.

Also went and got my exercise ball yesterday - it's HUGE! Think I should have got the smaller size, but it's very comfy and can see it's going to be my best friend for a while
AND last night had my first antenatal exercise/ relaxation class. About 45 mins of that followed by about 45 mins of general chat about our hopes/fears/experiences etc. Was really really nice and looking forward to the partner session tomorrow. Made me feel very reassured about everything and as if I AM finally entering the final straight. 29 weeks today!

Little moan about my boss.. she's SO SEXIST! I'm coming back to my job part time in October (I normally work part time in the winter anyway due to the nature of the job) and then starting full time in March. I love my job, it's pretty high pressure at times, especially over a couple of the summer months which is our high season, but it's really rewarding and pays really well. She more or less said the other day that I was going off to have a baby, my life is going to change and I can't honestly expect that I will be able to work under the same conditions as before (in relation to a discussion about promotions etc). It just really peeved me off. I just feel like it's nothing to do with her how I organise my private life. dh and I have discussed how we will manage it and if necessary he will take unpaid leave for a couple of months/ cut his hours temporarily or even, in extreme case, leave his job to look after the baby. The bottom line is that the person who earns more i.e. me would need to keep working. I KNOW that will be hard. I KNOW it might kill me to have that period of barely seeing my baby and my family but this is OUR decision and we have to make it on financial and other considerations.

AAAAAAARGH. Sorry for the rant. I just feel like it's so sexist assuming that because I'M having the baby then that's it, I'm going to mummyland and never coming back. But I am going to bring it up with her and more or less say all that to her because I'll just stew otherwise.

Hi again.

MIABT, I am finishing on the 16th March, even though I am not due until the end of April. I will still do some work from home, as I can log on to emails etc. plus I love what I do - most of the time!
You can always come on here if you want a moan - we can't be positive the whole time. x

Maveta - can't believe the cheek of your boss. Do you think she was trying to be supportive in a strange way? ie trying to say that she will be accommodating, but making a balls up of it!

I am going to have a moan now. I am having such pain in my ribs on the right hand side - arghhh! Can't wait to get this baby out and get on with it!!

Right, need to get off my arse. B is still sat here in her pj's - dreadful parent aren't I!

Morning all. Can't believe how many posts I made yesterday You must have got fed up of me.

Maveta - Sorry about your boss, she does sound a bit sexist, like you say at the end of the day it's your decision and nothing to do with anyone else.

MIABT - Good to see you back, hope you have a nice calm day today and that James is feeling better soon.

Liath - Glad you got a better nights sleep.

Emmy - agree with the others we're using the same matress again.

SOSPL - I've also got terrible pain in my ribs...sort of under my right nork...or at least in that area, it's really sore, not sure what it is, maybe hearburn? What do you all think, it comes and goes but it's really sore when it's there.

Not a dreadful parent, I'd still be in my pjs and so would Jake if he wasn't at pre-school this morning

Thanks for the good wishes for James :-)
Poor soul his nose is like Rudolph The Red Nose reindeer despite slathering it in "special nose cream" - ie Vaseline!

AngeG - I hope the day is calm too but I have already lost my rag once trying to get him washed and dressed and he is now sitting quietly ashe has a packet of dolly mixtures so SOSPL - it's ME who is the bad Mummy today! lol

Maveta - I would be really cross as well....I hate the assumption that once you've had a baby that your career is over...like you I would have to put your boss straight to stop the stewing! Will try sleeping on a cushion mountain tonight..

GMM - yep the Spatone is the dogs - thanks so much for recommending itx

Laith - would be very interested to hear about your experience of your Doula. I went out for dinner with a girl friend last night and she was telling me her SIL has just done a course to become one - I think it sounds like a wonderful way to make a living! Certainly a busy time for your parents with all these babies!

Morning all, i'm doing some babysitting a little 5 day old tot who won't let his poor mummy sleep, so she has come round for a nap.

God you really forget how small and vunerable they are.
Soooooooooooooo cute I'm having one of my can't wait to se my 2 moments.

Ooogs- really hope everthing is ok with you and DT's make sure your taking it easy hun.

I have read all the posts but alas have forgotten most of them.

caz and flump- Even though I have only 1 DD with 2 on the way people are all so negative toward this pg, it really pisses me off, I have posted on this subject before.
You just have to ignore them and feel happy that you have all that you have.
Don't let other people get you down, it may not be right for them but it is for you.
I think you are both amazing, here i am shitting myself about having 3 DC.

D'Oh forgot to say I'm off to see this house at 1 today, wish me luck!

1b3 - Good luck for looking at the house today. Hope the decision will be made easier for you.

I'm very at you looking after a 5day old baby. I love looking after babies

Hope the viewing of the house goes well 1b3.

WO, thankyou so much for that cd. Last night I slept better than I have in weeks. Still woke frequently for toilet trips but settled back off really quickly afterwards. Each time I woke I just did the deep breathing thing and I was out like a light really quickly!! So pleased, cant thank you enough! Only hope it wasnt a fluke!! Heres to many more sleep filled nights!!

MIABT, hope James gets better soon. I hate having to spend days at home because LO's are poorly.

Am waiting for the snow here which is forecast to be coming tonight and apparently quite heavy too if the bbc forecast is to be believed. We shall see, its threatened before but never materialised so who knows?

Have a good day all xx

Hi everyone,

My parents left this morning . Was a bit tearful after they'd gone, but only 10 days until DH is back. I've had a real break from walking (school and dancing runs, shopping) since they've been here, so SPD feeling fine. Hopefully I can hack the next week and a half.

I've read what I missed but can't remember everything. ...

oogs - hope you're feeling better

1B3 - good luck with the viewing

flump - I know just what you mean about other people's comments. Even though I'm in Spain, they now have the second lowest birth rate in Europe , so I get comments here too. I am lucky because my mum is one of four, and she and all her sisters wanted four (although only one managed it), so I have a lot of 'family understanding'. Plus quite a few mums at school seem to be bucking the trend here and going for number 3. But I do find myself saying "I always wanted four" whenever I say it's my fourth pg, so that they don't think I'm just lax with birth control . Of course, it's no one else's business, but I agree it's annoying.

Re cot mattresses (I think it was Emmy who asked) I'm keeping the same one we've always had. It has a washable cover too, and I think it'll be fine. I am not really sure whether there is any hard evidence that a new mattress helps prevent SIDS. To me a lot of the other advice is more helpful / relevant. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong!!

Hope you're all having a good Wednesday. Lovely sunshine here which should help getting back into the school run.

Quick hello!

Oooggs - what a shock - hope you are feeling better - hugs xoxoxox

1B3 - good luck with the the house viewing

Maveta - stuff in post

Hope anyone feeling poorly is better and so are all the poorly children! Touch wood mine have all been fine - apart from a dose of headlice - nice! They get them at school - do check/comb them every week. My biggest fear is that they give them to me!

I have had a new mattress for all mine - just liked the clean thing!

I finish work next thursday - 4 days left....

Have a nice day - will catch up later - going to be a good mummy and not sit and read mn while ds2 at home this afternoon.

Slept better last night - going to doctors in morning to get a referral for my private physio and to get a scan for baby... not planning to leave without one!

Oh my goodness!

Soooo many posts, so little time. Will have to be whizzy .......

DD1 woke up at 5.30 this morning again!!!! Couldn't believe it - Rah!! Managed to roughly settle her, but both up at 6.30 and I didn't get any sleep in that hour at all - Yuk, yuk, yuk - Still feeling sicky and have been having nasty pains all between my shoulder blades and ribcage, not nice - but doing all right apart from that - Sory to moan.....

Emmy - I'd use the mattress!

MammyJo - So to hear about mummy who lots her bubba at 19 weeks - so awful. Thinking of her.

Bramshott - Glad the Pre-School boosters went ok - what a star!

Pesha - Where are yooooooooou? Anyone heard?

1B3 - Great news about house- hope it is too good to be true honey - You deserve it sweetie! Let us know how viewing goes. Bless you for baby-sitting 5 day old, like you don't have enough to cope with!! You are so lovely! Hope mummy gets rest / sleep.

ooooogs - Take it easy sweetie - Poor you, must have been so frightening. [hugs]

Recommend Flouridix Liquid Iron here - great stuff and much better than tabs, which make it impossible to poo!!

Flump and Caz - I am pretty sick of the: "Is it your 1st?" "No, my third", "Oh, gosh....." comments too - Don't let the buggers get you down, just ignore them - I am 24.

Caz - Great stuff about house move - all stations go, go, go......

Thank you for great comments about fire engine cake - esp the link geordie - Reeeeeally appreciate that - thank you - will post pics when it is done!! Hope it looks as good as the one in the link!!

Think I neeeeeed to eat......

Pics of the cake????? I dont want pics!!! You cant eat pics!!! I want a slice sending!!!

You're on honey!! captain_dippy "at" yahoo "dot" co "dot" uk - Email me your address! Are you ok to wait til the end of Feb though (Birthday's on the 25th??)

Right going to give DD lunch then off to the house.

See you lot later.

I was only playing!!!!

.... Well I wasn't - you're pregnant and you requested cake. This is a very serious matter, young lady - I never mock the afflicted!!

Awh bless you!!!

I have a bit of a thing for cake at the moment actually... got a lovely chocolate cake from the local co-op of all places at the weekend... normally not a fan of butter creambut this one is devine!!! Very nice treat when I get in from work with a cup of tea!!

If there is any left after the party then let me know and I will kindly take a slice off your hands.. although I certainly wouldnt want to deprive your dd and her friends of cake!!