Due in March 07 - Counting Down the Days Now....

[LunarSea]

New thread because the old one's about to hit the 1000 posts mark.

I don't think there's an option for me to have anything other than a c section if he doesn't turn.

I'm feeling really wimpy about the whole thing today - the last two friends of mine who've had babies had horrendously long labours, failed ventouse/forceps and then emergency c sections.

I dunno - it feels like it might be easier to just skip all that and go straight to the CS.

Callie - your baby is gorgeous. Did I say that already? I can't remember.

Sorry you're all having a rubbish time with your DPs - at least I don't have that to worry about I suppose

kiwi-they would need something that simulated 10lb breasts as well.and i doubt any man would ever experience pee seeping out if he sits down too quickly/laughs/coughs/sneezes

Muppet, at 36 weeks there is still time for the baby to turn, are they really going to book you in for a cs already? My sisters baby definitely turned later than that. Can't you go into spontaneous labour and then have a cs if the baby still hasn't turned?

I think Morocco has said exactly how I feel about having a cs (except i didn't get the shakes). They gave me morphine to get me through the first night. Its a difficult thing coping wiht the pain and weighing ut up against the guilt of taking medication while breastfeeding, but I would take more painkillers if I have to have a cs again. Things I would advise you to make sure if you do have to have a cs is that you see the baby either being delivered and/or it is given to you directly after it is born, before it is taken away for cleaning up or observation. Ds was taken away as soon as he was born and it seemed like a long time before he was brought back to me. It also took a long time before I had any feeling back in my arms and body so the first time I fed him I could see it but couldn't feel anything.
I was also in too much pain and too weak to manage to stand for long enough to change his nappy before he was 4 days old, I am really sad about that. He was always dressed and changed by dh (who stayed at hospital with me). And I missed the skin on skin contact in those early days, so I wouldn't be afraid to undress your baby to hold him close to you in bed.
If you decide to go for a vb make sure the maternity unit is experienced with breech births.
Aaah, getting these babies out is not easy whichever way we go!

As for driving, I think in the UK some insurers won't cover you for up to 6 weeks affter a cs. I was definitely driving at latest 3 to 4 weeks after and didn't have a problem.

...and a man would have to practice his farting skills to simulate a PG woman wouldn't he?

Sorry, trust me to lower the tine

oooh dear CS's sound really scary now!!

How long is it sore for?

ps. Monti had been moving loads today

Boo - thanks for the support - yes I am going to stick to my guns

ooooh just seen Jordi - he's so cute isn't he?

I read in the paper today that our LOs will be born in the Year of the Pig which is especially auspicious. And not just a regular pig year but a golden one which only occurs every 60 years.

I'm going to concentrate on that, rather than the fact the CSs are sounding more scary by the second!

sazzy-dont forget that there are many tales of traumatic+horrible vaginal deliveries as well

i think any type of birth has the potential to be scary,the only thing i can say is knowing what to expect as far as humanly possible,and knowing what you want and sticking to it as a far as humanly possible,are the best things you can do.

Sazzy, I put together a birth plan/discussion points for my consultant just in case I do have to have another cs. It covers a lot of stuff that I don't feel good about from ds's birht so it is personal, but I can send it to you if you like. It will give you somethings to think about and help prepare yourself. Agree that knowing wht to expect and what you want is really important.

Grrr - having yelled at both me and ds all afternoon, so we ended up just driving around in the dark in tears for a couple of hours to get out of his way, d(?)h has eventually let us back in, and promptly gone to sleep, snoring, on the sofa. He's also emptied the bags from his holiday all over the bed, so it looks like it's the fold up bed for me tonight

thank you leolady - that's very kind of you and I'd really appreciate it. I feel like I'm groping in the dark so much of the time through this whole pregnancy business - despite the amount of books I seem to have got through.

Lunar !!! Why is he being such a git? You're the preg one here. Ah well, you can join the rest of us with crappy dp/dh's.

Foxy, sorry I didn't call today, didn't get back from zoo till gone 5, then the rounds of feeding and bathing , I was so knackered I couldn't move and was incapeable of speaking. I'll def phone tomorrow if that's ok? How about in the afternoon after my scan?

lunar why didnt he go out for a walk/drive if he was the one in a mood??

whats happening with these dh/p's today,is it because we cant be at their beck and call now due to being very pregnant?

Diva, I reckon it could be that and also the fact that because we are tired and haven't got our usual reserves we cannot put up with the rubbish behaviour that we normally do.

Lunar

Perhaps your DPs are jealous of your beautiful round bellies or something.

kitty i have a scan tomorrow too! Will think of you

lunar - terrible that it's you on the fold up bed as well
I agree, kitty, it's just that we no longer tolerate their general crapness (well, can speak of my own dh only of course). also, i think he can't cope with the idea of me being weak in any way and it sends him into a bit of a state - as I am the engine that keeps the family going

re c section, it's really important to remember that everyone's experience is different. don't worry!! and they have to come out one way or another ! with our local hospital, dh's can only come in for a few hours during visiting time otherwise you're on your own - how it is possible to cope after a c section, I cannot imagine. I couldn't do a thing for the first day and then only just on the second. I am going to pack loads of food and drink as well so I don't have to get out of bed too much, lazy creature

family stress is getting worse and worse - honestly, my family is just ridiculous to the point where you would not believe. my stomach is rock hard from all the stress of it. I've got to cut off a bit from them all the next few weeks and leave them to their madness. other, more important, things to concentrate on right now

This is awful, peoples dh/dp are being terrible! Mine just rang to say he is going to Pakistan in a week or so because his mother is ill. I'm so upset.

Aw Rosy what timing

Kitty and Jay - hope scans go well. got till thursday to wait for mine.. this past two weeksish has been a long drag!

Sorry people seem to be having issues with your dh/p's

muppet it is an insurance thing - the big thing is being able to do an emergency stop ie hard braking without bursting stitches - external and internal.

FWIW - I was very anti c-section before I had dd1 - did not want a c-section - that was the only real question I asked when dd1's heart defect was diagnosed - does that prevent me from a vaginal birth.... did not want an epidural etc.

When the time came and it was - this baby need to be born now - then the choice was out of my hands - dd1 needed to be born. I was in such shock as it were thinking this was not really happening to me that all I could think of was - I can't have the baby today - I have to go shopping and go to the bank and pay bills - even as they are wheeling me into theatre- this is going through my head.

I went for a scan - appt around 9.30 - by 11.08 I am a mum!!! pretty tough day.

Guess for me - so much to deal with - dd1 in ICU, sorting out care plans, long term medical care, scans for cardiac surgery as well as taking care of my recovery - in a sense I could not afford to go to pieces - no family around to help out except for dh. All my family in Aus - had brilliant friends but many were away for the summer.

I learnt that things don't always go to plan and the biggest thing was not to beat myself up about it - it happened - not what I wanted but I had dd1 and we needed to worry about what was best for her.

Think that experience stood me and dh in good stead for everything we have faced since. Dh and I had not been together long and married a much shorter time when I got pregnant - so pretty new marriage and the stress of dd1 being so poorly.

I do think that that is the reason I took the full six weeks to really feel myself again whereas with dd2 - again no real family around the help BUT i did not have the added stress of a poorly baby. I was fine within three weeks. Had very little pain relief.

I also had fab midwives who were brilliant with helping me with dd2 for the first day and by the second day I felt fine to get up and do the things i needed to do. The big thing I learnt was to use pain relief before I felt I needed it during those first couple of days rather than waiting for the pain to get so bad.

Had a successful shopping day today - got the fab birth announcement cards, managed to pick up a couple of gorgeous outfits for the new baby as well as some summer clothes for next summer. Also managed to get the dressing gown I wanted for Christmas but had not been able to find.

sorry for the long message.

on a funny note - must watch what I say now!! Dd1 is not one for repeating what you say - no problems when road rage surfaces... BUT dd2 is starting to repeat you.

Their bedroom was messy and as I entered I said - you two need to help me clean this up - I can't even get in the bloody door ( bad hormonal exhausted tired day- don't usually speak like this - just totally fed up over other stuff).

I hear piped from behind - 'can't even get in the bloody door' say dd2 aged 2 as she tries to get in the room behind me.

Note to self - watch road rage incidents and language used - am sure it will be repeated at most inopportune moment.

Morning all,

Oh it's hopeless I just can't catch up! Too many messages been written while I was running round like an idiot yesterday determined to wash every single piece of fabric in the house, babyclothes, sheets, blankets, everything. I think it may have been nesting. Or maybe just going off on one!

Sorry to hear that so many of you have rubbish dp's / dh's at the moment! I hope they all come round soon and apologise with lots of Lindor chocolate eggs and other goodies!

Mine is being good atm, but he's probably saving it for when lo is born.

Foxy glad Monti is moving a bit more.

Eids lol at your dd2 repeating what you say. Is this the same dd2 who shoplifts? Where does she get it from?

Boo hope your dh gets the DIY sorted!

Diva you made me pmsl, "they aren't meant to be painful,but it depends where you draw the line between discomfort and pain really" - come on, come out and say it, "Moss, you're being nesh!" That's what you really meant isn't it?

Kiwi lol at your pgcy suit! Does it come with a tape recording of a bloke saying, "ffs you're only pg not ill"?

Sorry I am not ignoring everyone else, I just have to go and get ready for work now, hope you all have a lovely day! Can't believe some of you are getting to 37 weeks that's scary!

EDD 27/3
34 weeks tomorrow!
13 working days to go until mat leave
Little boy (Bertie)

Brilliant! Sazzy, your bag thread is on the front page!!!

Well I'm more philosophical this morning about the likelyhood that dh will be in Pakistan at popping time.
We'll see, if I'm overdue he might be back. I felt so misersble and sorry for myself last night and then I started reading Misdees threads and that sort of put my problems into perspective.
I know I'll cope, it's sad for Dh if he misses his baby being born because of his mother She gets quite ill every so often, she smokes a hooka and her lungs are struggling now, she is very elderly. She might be fine again as usual but on the other hand her time may be up so I can't insist Dh stays put...It really is sh*t but oh well.

One of my lovely good friends had an elective cs recently, she knew what to expect and it did take longer to recover but it was all nice and calm and not a distressing experience.

Rosy, will you be able to get some help with the kids and house?

I've come to the computer this morning to find a note stuck on it from dp saying " would they feel so sorry for you if you told them the whole truth?"
So basically he is pissed off because I have been having a moan. Yet of course what men will always fail to understand is that this is what women need to do .They can never understand that because we moan about a particular thing it doesn't mean we are moaning about everything.
Of course thereare many things he does that are good. Anyway,I reckon that if you read someone's posts then....

Rosy, will you be able to get some help with the kids and house?

I've come to the computer this morning to find a note stuck on it from dp saying " would they feel so sorry for you if you told them the whole truth?"
So basically he is pissed off because I have been having a moan. Yet of course what men will always fail to understand is that this is what women need to do .They can never understand that because we moan about a particular thing it doesn't mean we are moaning about everything.
Of course thereare many things he does that are good. Anyway,I reckon that if you read someone's posts then....