Due in March 07 - Counting Down the Days Now....

[LunarSea]

New thread because the old one's about to hit the 1000 posts mark.

Lunar that would be horrendous

hope today goes ok leo - not lng now til your hands really will be full of babies

glad everything was ok foxy, that sounds a scary trip to hospital. lol at the 7 mins to pack hospital bag though - there's another job done! sounds like Monti is getting ready for action

eidsvold - you are obviously a very sensible and practical woman - respect .

still don't fancy another c section though! been there, not remotely enjoyed it, no desire to return . I have to say though that it didn't affect my bonding with ds1 at all, in fact it took me a lot longer to bond with ds2 who was a vbac. Sadly, I think I still have some issues with this pregnancy that are worrying me about how I'll bond/cope after dd is born. I hope I get that instant bonding thing I had with ds1 - then I might not care about all the rest of it.

dh being a bit useless at the moment - I took to my bed yesterday at lunchtime and he didn't half give me a hard time about it, poor diddums having to cope all by himself with the kids for a few hours. gave me a big lecture about how it's going to be really hard work once dd is born and I need to pull my weitht - actually I think I carry that weight around every day so it's pretty hard to ignore. and it's perfectly fine for him to go to the gym almost every night while I have to put both kids to bed or go to the footie on a sat afternoon by himself. heaven forbid I might have a bit of a lie down. men - can't live with them, can't shoot them

sorry for rant - am now well into paranoid, angry, emotionally unstable last few weeks of pregnancy - let the countdown begin

Morocco, my dh is swanning about like a free bachelor 5oo miles away, I definately can't shoot him he's out of range
Still, I'd rather be me than him, he's up to his neck in paper work (yawn)
I noticed last time that I felt that ds2 was a stranger when he arrived which I hadn't felt with ds1 or dd. So I'm prepared for that again this time. Maybe it is harder to feel bonded automatically when your head is full of concerns for the children you already have or something. I still think I bonded easily with him then but less obviously perhaps. And of course now I'm equally in love with all the children.
I am worried about coping with sleepless nights. If I get my sleep I can cope with anything!

Fox, very happy to hear that all is well with Monti!
They probably only induce at 38 weeks because it is more expensive to do the extra monitoring they think you need! I don't understand how inducing works if the baby isn't ready to come, it needs hormones from both you and the baby. I hope Monti decides to make an arrival before then so you don't have the stress of fighting it out with them!

Rosy, make sure you have some kind of CS birth plan just in case. It will make it a whole lot better.

Morocco at your insensitive DH! Got to say I am very, very lucky with mine.

Leo - think you're right about the budget being the deciding factor re induction

Morocco at your DH! In the restaurant last night we discussed very loudly:

peeing during the night when heavily PG

Saucy underwear

How all men are in fact a bit autistic

The waiters stayed well away from our table

Rosy/Lunar - our closest hospital Kingston, regularly turns labouring women away and sends them to some obscure hospitla in Chertsey - which is not even on the A-Z!!!

Jay - hope you and your LO feel better soon. My DS is on the mend finally but DH & I still feel rubbish

Lunar - I think when they turn folk away they are supposed to do it on the phone not when you turn up on the doorstep so to speak

Fox - Glad to hear you had fun last night & that Monti is okay

Hope everyone has a nice lazy Sunday

Jay - hope you and your LO feel better soon. My DS is on the mend finally but DH & I still feel rubbish

Lunar - I think when they turn folk away they are supposed to do it on the phone not when you turn up on the doorstep so to speak

Fox - Glad to hear you had fun last night & that Monti is okay

Hope everyone has a nice lazy Sunday

Hope you are feeling better Blonde... Morocco poor you having a conversation like that!! I would kill my dh!! Glad to hear everything turned out ok with Monti, Foxi. The visitor situation sounds awful - having your family wait outside . Leo... hope you manage ok today with so little sleep on top of all your aches and pains. I agree with Rosy - can cope with anything after a good night's sleep.

We are sitting waiting for the midwife to deliver our home birth pack. Her visit was postponed yesterday and today she is very late!! I only hope that she doesn't take one look at our teeny tiny flat and say there isnt the room. I'm psyching myself up so that I don't end up in hospital . We are going to try to assemble our Nature Nest afterwards... then the un-enviable task of organising our bedroom so that it fits!!

how did I miss that Blonde !! Sorry that you are still feeling rubbish.

Kiwi, what's a home birth pack? I never had one of those last time
Brighton reglarly shuts the maternity ward and farms women miles and miles away to other hospitals. This was one of the reasons I opted for a HB last time, couldn't be doing with the angst of it all.

Morocco at you dh. I'm right furious with mine at the mo but he always willingly looks after the kids so that I can rest when I need to at the weekends. I bet you're livid, whatare you going to do??

TheBlond glad your household is slowly recovering. Let's hope you and your dh make a recovery as well very soon.

I must say that having had one elective and one em section that my vbacs were a million times more rewarding for me. I'm afraid I'm one od those women or whom the method of birth does matter. I'm sure I would have bonded better with ds 1 and 2 if they'd been born normally. Anyway, hats of to you Eids. You seem a very sorted person, in many ways.

Foxy just stick some metaphorical fingers in your ears and sing very loudly whenever they say things you don't want to hear

fox-my dp used to go out every week before we met,but he says he's always prefered to stay in in front of the pc.i used to go out all the time when i was in my early 20's but i stopped enjoying it in the last few years,my idea of a good night would be having a few glasses of wine at a friends house whilst putting the world to rights
i do love the way babies make liars of you before they're even born...last week this lo started kicking for england as soon as they put the monitor on.it was the first time s/he'd moved all day

i think the birth has alot to do with how well you bond with the baby.ds1's was so awful and i cant even remember how i felt afterwards.i just know that with ds and dd2 the births were alot easier and i got that immeadiate rush of love.

leo-induction at 38 weeks is a long slow process IME.i dont understand why they would do it for no reason,when i had to sign disclaimers saying i understood it could result in an emergency cs etc,and i was being induced cos of my bp

i'm finding this yoga ball alot more comfy than the computer chair.i think i might carry on using it after the baby's born.

hope everybody has a good sunday.

35+4

glad I don't sound totally unreasonable then soemtimes it's hard to know, dh can sound so righteously indignant. I think I deserve a bit of a lunchtime nap on a sat afternoon - it is about the only time I get to do it!! dh always gets on my nerves from this point on til the baby is about 6 months old. poor dh. I think it's cos usually his coasting attitude doesn't bother me too much but when I'm knackered, it starts to grate. I bet dh wishes he was 500 miles away, rosy . anyhow, he is now busy outside putting down some flags so I suppose he's not too bad. and he did cook tea last night, altho I had to take both kids to sainsbury's for this to be possible.
one of my friends turned up at our mat unit and the door was locked and noone answered the bell. turns out mat was full, so that was their total solution to the problem, she ended up giving birth in the a and e dept instead sometimes I wonder if the govt really understands about what it means to go into labour and give birth, now they are planning on closing loads of mat units and making women travel further - it's not like you always have hours and hours to drive around, is it?

morocco what did you hate about your c-section - please be gentle with me as it looks like i'm headed for one!

eids/diva/morocco any other c-sectioners why can't you drive for 6 weeks after a section. I know its a naive question but are you unable to move properly?? Is the pain that bad???

Callie Jordi is just the cutest thing ever!

evenhope Bath IS really polluted - it's like Rome and surrounded by 7 hills - all the traffic fumes sit in the valley and in summer it is diabolical. Luckily my folks live in a village nearby but I know what you mean about the air quality there.

Foxy - glad little monti is ok.

Sazzy if your lo has turned but have to admit slight too!

I'm due to another scan on tues where they can confirm lo is STILL breech and will book me in for c-section (hence all paranoid questions about them!) Excited that may only be a few days til meet lo. Better come up with a name.

36+3 (boy)

since you ask, muppet . . . but are you sure you don't want to try for a breech birth? my mw were v supportive of giving it a go, altho you have to be open minded to the fact it might not succeed. they had had 2 non diagnosed breech births that week and all had gone smoothly. I think the obstetricians are more scared of breech births than mw.
ds1 was em c section, perhaps it would have been easier if it was planned, I don't know. i don't see myself as a 'c section' type person and i think that was one problem - i found it hard to accept. it really really hurt (sorry) but if I have another I will ask for a whole load more painkillers! I had ds2 with no pain relief at all so it's not like I'm a total wuss but the type of pain is quite different imo. I think it's good to read up on what to expect, i had no clue really. like you might get uncontrollable shaking afterwards. mostly though, I just hated not being able to get up and about and relying on other people for help. I'm not very good at that. and I felt 'violated' in some way that I can't really explain. I don't think I'v ever really accepted it and I know I'll find it hard t accept if it's another c section this time round. also hate hospitals anyway and am becoming more phobic about them the more times ds1 has had to be admitted. even going for checkups there raises my bp these days
but those are obviously my personal issues and I know loads of people who've had really 'easy' experiences with c sections and not even seemed in much pain afterwards so it must be a very individual experience.
sorry - hope this hasn't totally put you off

Morocco - wow that is so irresponsible fo your local mat unit!!!

Diva - just off to my book club for a glass of wine and to set the world to rights!!

Kitty - my DH will at least do that too - agree with whoever said that DH's are annoying from this point on until baby is 6 months!

Hope everyone manages to get their feet up for this arvo

morocco - I don't think they quite get how we feel at this stage. I made the mistake of trying to go into a couple of shops with dh this morning - but it obviously hadn't dawned on him that I can't walk at his prefered warp-speed at the moment, because he ended up literally dragging me around by the wrist to keep up with him. When I dared to mention it he said that he hadn't noticed he was doing it (he'd nearly had me on the floor twice ffs) and why hadn't I said? Er that's exactly what I was doing, wasn't it?

muppet-ive never had a csection,i was asking about the driving thing cos my mate who'd had a section was driving just over a week after it

morocco-my local maternity unit was threatened with closure a few months ago,then it was threatened with being turned into a mw-led unit(meaning high risk women like me would have to travel the 40-odd miles to lancaster to give birth,or even just to see a cinsultant).in the end half the town signed a petition and it didnt happen.
ive never known my local hospital to turn labouring women away,but theyve had to close childrens ward and SCBU due to staff shortages in the past,especially in the winter months.

my dp makes jokes about me 'only' being pregnant,but he will play with dd2 when i have a sleep on the sofa.he does tend to forget that i cant walk at normal speed when we go shopping etc though.i wish there was a simulated pregnancy suit you could get for men so they could havesome idea of how it feels to be heavily pregnant!

hmmm, I'm not quite sure what is in the pack the midwife delivered today, Kitty. It is aobut the size of a rubbish sack and sealed. She said it was extra supplies that they might need - they will bring the real stuff on the day. It was an interesting visit, no tea and chat. Her only comment was that our home is very neutral so we will want to have lots of towels and covers. They are on my list .

We're not getting through this list tho - went to buy our buggy today but hubs decided the boot was too full with ours and lil sis's groceries to stop. So, that means another trip. Same for the carseat - we need to go back and order it because, luckily, dh was given some John Lewis vouchers which will pay for that.

haha, simulated preggers suit, Diva . Let me find a link.

I'll be back!!

the man's pregnancy suit

kiwi I get our homebirth pakc delivered after I "pass" my final blood count (iron has been a little low (10.7)last check 28 wjks) at 36 wks, am allowed to deliver at home from 37 wks now this is a countywide change from 38wks which is fab news!
They also do a home visit to offer adcice about what you might do to make the experience go smoothly for you.
I said i was worried about m/w not getting ehr in time, she said oh we're really lucky here, we have 5 m/w's in area 4 less than 2 miles from me and only one at any one time is at a hospital. So she said I could end up with a decent crowd attending!!!
Oh and they have blue lights for emergencies

Lunar, I find that when I'm walking to school with other mums. They go charging along and I say, "Don't wait for me I can't walk that fast. "No, it's alright," they say and then contiune to walk still too fast but not quite so fast and I feel obliged to hobble along as best I can because they've already made an effort.

Piffle and Kiwi you must both live in a far more affluent area than me . Apart from g@a I have to provide everything .

Muppet, if this baby is breech I'm going to try for a normal birth still, hopefully he'll have turned by then though.

I wonder what the difference is Kitty?? I actually live in the poorest borough in London with the highest average income (the Canary Wharf influence).

Piffle, I was told that I could deliver at home from 37 weeks too. Tomorrow I will be 38 . Glad that your health is taking care of itself!

Glad I'm not the only one finding DH shootable atm.

He'd promised me the DIY would be finished this weekend (I've been living with piles of stuff everywhere for 2 weeks now). What time did he actually start yesterday?

5pm.

That's PM.

And of course if I'd dared to comment he would have gone into a huff.

Result? I have to live with stepping over/bumping into things everywhere I step for another week, while he escapes to the office.

I told him today that if I went into labour and gave birth in the meantime there is no way I'm bringing the baby back here - I'm going to my Mum's. I don't think he believes me, but I'm deadly serious. I can't being my baby back to a dust-covered pig-sty.

That's my rant over!

And Morocco: shame on your DH!

Anyway, la la.

Callie: Jordi is beautiful. And so are you!

Foxy: Queen Charlotte's said that to you back in the First Trimester, then told you later it wasn't true, didn't they? You just stick to your guns. They can hardly tie you down and force you, can they?

Hi to everyone else. Hope you all had a relaxing Sunday.

EDD 3/3
37 weeks
Boy

Ooooh all these 37/ 38 weekers - it's getting a bit close now!

Boo - DIY etc is a similar story here. DS's new room is closer to being ready but now the guest room is in chaos and there is stuff all over our bed
We still need a bed guard and a new stairgate but it looks as though I will have to wait til next weekend for those

Morocco...Ye Gads!

Really don't know what to do if I'm honest. Worrying thing is you sound like me in that i hate hospitals - hate feeling i can't get up and do things and hate having to rely on others!

Don't fancy the uncontrollable shaking bit!

At same time - have never had normal birth as dd and ds preferred unconventional body parts to present at their births - so feel doomed to end up with assisted deliveries/ventouse/episiotomies/tears etc having done all the bloody hard work of labour beforehand.

What's a girl to do???

Is the pain worse than the afterpains etc you usually get? And are you allowed strong painkillers if you're breastfeeding??