Due in March 07 - Counting Down the Days Now....

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New thread because the old one's about to hit the 1000 posts mark.

Oh Dolly, that's so kind of you. I need big cuddles right now . I don't think they checked the cord blood flow today. Obviously the consultant wan't that worried. It's mee on a panic. I do have a tendency to panic. I'm going to have a glass of vino tonight as I reckon things that relax me have to be good for the little man .

no!!!!!if they find a way for men to have babies,then fine.i can then spend 9 months saying to dp'youre only pregnant,stop moaning' and 'i would have walked out ages ago if i didnt love you,regardless of whether or not you're pregnant'and 'you're always falling asleep'

kitty-i'm sure everything will be fine.i think they worry us too much with these growth scans.did they not check your bp at the hospital??i would have thought that would be a priority as high bp/pre-eclampsia can affect the baby's growth.

rosy- i can empathise with the stairs thing.by the time ive got ds2 up to his room i can hardly breathe.maybe i should have put him in with dd2 till i had the baby,then i couldve got the older 2 their own hoover and never had to venture to the top floor atall

sazzy-i remember feeling a little bruised down there for about a week after the birth,but it was nothing compared to the feeling that youre entire womb is going to fall out (with the contents of your bladder) that comes at the end of pregnancy.anyway,i found i didnt care really cos i had this lovely little bundle to cuddle that made it all worthwhile.

why do they have to grow into whiny little brats?

EDD 14/03,induction date 07/03.dream birth date 28/02 (so i can drink and be merry on my 30th)

the first part of my post was in response to kitty's 'you'll have to have another' btw,theres a few more posts appeared since i started typing half hour ago.

Hi to everyone!!

Dolly, I am envious that your teaching is over - although not at all at your marking . I am amazed that I survived today at work... I can not believe how tired I am just being there. Luckily it was a lovely afternoon painting with year 5's!!

I'm sorry that the news following your scans Kitty and Foxy is not all that we were hoping for... but you have been given lots of advice so please don't worry. Great new title Kitty, that is one which is earned!!

Sazzy... the language used is unreal sometimes - it's as if our worries and concerns are trivial. And, it's annoying that we think of all the pertinent questions AFTER the shock has calmed down

Hope the internet sorts itself out magpie... it's good you are able to pop back.

9 working days left .

Hi All,

Still on the vvveerrryyy slow dial-up, so will leave more detailed replies for another day when I've got more energy

Glad you're feeling a bit better Kitty, hope you feel better soon TheBlonde, thanks for the good wishes re internet Mossy and Kiwi, and a quick Hi to everyone else!

Due Date 14/03

have not read the last of the old thread so hope I have not missed anything.

for anyone who is worried - for me - c-sections were not that bad - especially my first given I really did not want a c-section and had been assured despite dd1's heart defect I could have her vaginally.

Kitty - if they were worried about your babe's growth then they would have done a doppler scan at the very least. When I had dd1 she had stopped growing in utero and so they checked the dopplers to make sure all was well. It wasn't so she was born an hour or so later by emergency c-section.

I recover very well from c-sections ( had 2 now - 1 elective and 1 emergency). I was home and looking after dd1 who was 2 1/2 and has sn - so was not walking. climbing etc as well as a newborn on my own a week after surgery. Dh had started a new job and so had no time off available and so I just had to get into it. I was not silly and did not do things that would affect my wound. But I was back driving within 3 weeks - that is only cause that was the earliest time I could get the GP to agree to say I had healed well.

I know it is easy to make light of it - yes it is major surgery but I seem to just recover really well - no horror stories from me.

Very hot and humid here but almost back into our usual routine. Dd1 started kindy yesterday and she was so pleased to be off. She starts sn kindy thursday for 2 full days - so I then only have dd2 to amuse. Just wish it would cool down a little or not be so humid.

Morning everyone!

I wanted an early night last night and dh had me up until ten downloading tunes for him (he is not particularly computer literate) because he'd heard something yesterday on the Steve Wright show that he liked. He had me downloading practically every tune off their internet playlist, listening to it for about two minutes then saying "no that's not it".

Anyway at five to ten, I looked at this internet playlist that he'd found. It was the one for last Monday.

I went to bed!

Had a weird dream though, in my dream I went into labour, we drove the hospital and then I didn't remember anything until I woke up in a hospital bed with a baby! I asked dh what had happened, he said they had to do an emergency cs because I wasn't dilating properly, but that the spinal block wouldn't work so they did it under general anesthetic!!

He was a very cute baby though, with dh's bright red hair, and in my dream I breast fed him and it was really easy.

So at least the last part bodes well for real life!! Funny though in the dream I said to dh "I thought I'd told you, on my birth plan it says I didn't want a cs". And then, still in my dream, realised I hadn't actually got around to writing my birth plan.

Job for dinnertime today I think!!

Will reply to everyone later when I'm in work.

Morning all. Well I'm very this morning. You know we've all had this yucky bug and it's oding the rounds. Mymother has it, my helper had it yesterday (she take alot of time off). Anyway she phones me at 6.30 this morning to say that her husband (age 30) has it and she staying to look after him. I explain to her that my baby is not growing well and I need to rest and she says " oh dear, but I can't leave him just like you wouldn't leave your own baby" WTF??????? He is a fully grown man. I'm so f**king furious. I reckon she's looking for any old excuse now not to work.

Eids, they are doing a doppler at the next scan.
It's awful, I feel as if this baby must be pysically shrinking away inside me. Last night I had a dream I had a miscarriage, except as well as this baby I also lost one or more of my children. I started to bleed and one or more of my kids simply disappeared. I wasn't a nice dream . In my dream I said to dp that now we only had three children then at least it wouldn't be so much work and we could have a bit of a life back

Hi all

Yesterday I was planning to come on here to tell you that Jordi had been promoted again to the nursery and how I was worried about breastfeeding and milk supply etc, but now those things seem like trivia. Our smoothish run may be shuddering to a halt. The doctors told me yesterday Jordi had to have a head x-ray because they are concerned one or more of the plates of his skull may have fused, which obviously means there's no room for his brain to grow, or it would grow in a weird direction. They have refused to say really what the possible outcomes could be until we get the analysis of the x-ray back which could be today or tomorrow, but if any have fused then neurosurgery would be on the cards.

It seems the condition is completely unrelated to him being premature and ironically it could be a good thing he was if he has it because it means it would have been picked up much earlier, and the earlier the better. Keep everything crossed for us that the x-rays show he's fine. The docs said his head is growing but not as fast as it should be so there is some hope. This condition is quite rareish if its the one we think it is, but apparently it is more common in boys and particularly first born sons. Trying to look on the bright side, if he has no other syndrome associated with it, which we don't think he has, then outcomes for surgery are good, but oh my god, the thought of them cutting open his head just is beyond bearing almost. Please let him not have it.

I should be sleeping now, so I will try and catch another half hour before I need to express again. Love to you all, hope all goes ok with scans for Kitty and Amie if I've read correctly, did a quick skim-read, and hang on in there for the rest of you.

Callie and Jordi xxx

Will be thinking of you Callie. If it is that then at least they've picked it up really early, so they can make sure he's getting the best treatment for it. Would they treat him where he is or would he have to be transferred to a more specialist hospital?

Oh god Callie you poor thing. You're really going through the mill aren't you?

Lots of love to you, Jordi & your DH - we're all thinking about you.

Callie - we're all thinking of you and Jordi - when will you get the x-ray results.

Kittygrandmultip - you poor thing re your horrible dream and your unreliable home help, on top of all your worries. She's taking the piss isn't she, with you heavily pg and five children to care for !

BTW, I was given a card yesterday for www.midwivesonline.com, a free advice line on all aspects of conception, PGcy and birth if anyone wants to have a look on their website or ask advice about anything.

Rosy - I always though MWs tried to manually turn breech babies, but I guess Kitty is correct, hospitals are scared of litigation etc if anything goes wrong.

Sassy - PMSL at the idea of shining a torch up one's fango to get baby to turn round. It reminds me of the cure for worms - placing a bit of chocolate outside the bum so the worms all crawl out to eat the chocolate!!

My consultant referred me to a physio yesyerday for suspected spd, but also thinks I have a urinary infection. Am going to GP later to plead for ABs as my pee is like thick lucozade atm (TMI or wot? )

Oh Callie I hope everything turns out for the best for you. Lots of to you

Callie- I watched a documentary about a child and I think her plates were totally fused and so her haed grew in a funny shape but it was fixable through time, but not easy of course.
I really hope Jordi doesn't have this, if he does it will be hard but you'll all get through it. I'm keeping everything crossed.

I get stressed out when the baby has its heel prick test so I can just imagine how hard this all is for you.

As for the milk supply, you have already given him a fantastic start so anything you manage is a bonus. With all this stress it is amazing how well you've done and if you can keep it trickling the amount will build up once Jordi is sucking.

Kitty you sound really stressed and it sounds like you need a proper break. Can you get some help from anyone else for now?

Sorry to hear about the concerns Callie - Jordi sounds like a strong little baby and I am sure he will cope admirably with whatever comes his way. Big hugs to you and your partner.

Kitty - tell the bloody woman to get her arse into help you .... she sounds like the last thing you need at the moment ?? Is she normally reliable ?

Callie - there are things you can do to increase your supply - probably more once he's feeding normally than while you're having to express. Fenugreek is supposed to help if I remember rightly, and there's something called Domperidone which your doctor might be able to prescribe for you which boosts your milk supply.

So much to catch up on after the weekend and i was off yesterday having my scan to check growth due to diabetes. i measured a week behind all the time and he is now caught up measuring in at 35 weeks. i could see his face, it was surreal and really hit it home!
Sazzybee - any results ref nursing bras as i have to do a mega shopping spree to get everything and my boobs are only a 34D and concerened if they are actually gong to get any bigger!
Morocco - Yes i am taking iron tablets and take them at night if i remember, so that could explain the cramping in the morning!
Kitty - try not to worry, as the pregnancy progresses the scans become less accurate, they are at their most accurate in the first trimester eg week 12 scan. that is why they date EDD thene and not later etc.
Boo - i suffer from insomnia but due ot the excess coke i drink, it is my one weekness!
i find that when the doctors fill in your notes or at the scan they never tell you anything, i always read my notes when i get home. i presume that if they do not tell you then it is not worth worrying about!
Callie - thoughts are with you and Jordi xxx

callie hope all goes well with the xray - my dd1 had two open heart surgeries at 8 weeks old and it was tough BUT she is doing so fab. To look at her you would never know.

As you said - perhaps Jordi's coming early is a blessing in that this can be checked out and caught early if it is the case.

I expressed as much as I could for dd1 but we needed to fatten her up for surgery and my milk never really came in so she went onto formula. I felt a little sad at the time but knew whatever worked for us was what was best.

bethoo, glad your scan went well, how exciting for you to have a good look at the baby!

I haven't been seen since 14th dec which seems ages ago, so ignorance is bliss for me at the moment. Hoping everything will be boringly uneventful for me on thursday. Last pregnancy the baby had fluid retained in the kidneys so I was fretting about that.

It is great that there is so much information and any problems are caught early but at the same time it causes alot of worry. Ds2 had to go on antibiotics from birth until he ended up having a cystogram(sp?) which was horrific and in the end it was confirmed there was no problem all along.
But if there had have been I would have been grateful it was discovered early....

Hi all, I'm so sorry I just can't keep up with you all so will just drop in to let you know how I am doing.

All going well, one of the babies is very low down now and I thought they were on their way on Sunday so took a trip to the hospital to check. They are staying put where they are a bit longer , but the doctor insisted I stayed over night to 'rest' and for observation! Rest did not happen as the woman in the bed next to me snored all night. Remember to pack earplugs in your hospital bag!!!!! It was more than a relief to get home where I can relax properly!!!!

Thanks for all advice re turning lo. Am phoning our local acupuncture centre to book a moxibustion session as crawling round on all fours is wearing a bit thin now!!!

Sazzy - my obstetrician defo recommends c-section if he hasn't turned. Was a bit worried at first, but having had one face presentation and one compound presentation with other two births I'm in no mood to try for a breech. My GP says they would let me try for natural labour if i really wanted it but I've come to the conclusion that my babies prefer to come out in a stupid way!

Rosy - think you're right about them all being worried about litigation plus i guess the less people do natural breech deliveries the less people are trained to manage them - vicious circle.

They won't do the manual turn on me because i have an anterior placenta and had the threatened miscarrige at week 13.

Sazzy - I can honestly say i have not been shining a torch up my fanjo!! Perhaps that's where I've been going wrong all these weeks!

Callie - thoughts with you massively. Please let us know any news... you sound like you're holding up so well.

Hugs to you Kitty - wish i could offer some more practical support.

Leo - keep forgetting you're probably the next one to go... surely they won't let you go on much longer?

Callie, fingers crossed for the results, do let us know as soon as you can

I went to the docs this morning and as it happened she is preg too, I didn't know and she is due march 6th. She's a lovely doctor anyway but I felt she was very sympathetic to my floods of tears and could understand my anxiety. Anyway no protein in the wee today and bp is at 100/65 which is fine I think. She measured me at 31.5, so that cheered me a bit.

The kids drove me bonkers this morning and I was in floods of tears in the playground. I got lots of hugs and cuddles from the other mums. One dad was especially lovely and gave me so much reassurance and lovely hugs.
I don't know if you remember but his wife was having the very sick baby in a couple of weeks. It looks like that baby will be ok which is such amazing news. He is experienced at comforting distressed preg women. iIsaid he was so good he should hire himself out!!

Anyway I went to tescos and bought some baby vests for TINY BABY. My reasoning is if he's not tiny then it's great that he's too big to fit into them.
I also got lots of stuff for my smoothie maker and fresh fish and nuts. I don't ever sit down and eat a meal, it's always on the hoof. I don't go hungry but I think I could eat better.
I'm such a control freak, I think one of my frustrations was feeling that I was helpless and that he was just going to get sicker. Now at least if I make sure I have a diet that ugly Gillian mackeith would be proud of then I feel like I'm doing something.
Obviously I have to supplement my regime with caramel choc shortbread from Waitrose or as dp calls it "crack cake" as it is completely addictive an gives you an immediate high .

Thanks for listening to me ramble on my friends. It is a real comfort and support to have you here there and everywhere. Wish you were all just round the corner though

Aaaah Kitty - so glad you hear you sounding perkier!

That Dad sounds lovely. There's something particularly nice about being cuddled by someone else's husband .

Reading your post has cheered me up in the middle of the plaster dust and tax receipts. Now we just need muppet's baby to turn, foxy's placenta to move and Jordi to be ok. (Sorry if I've forgotten anyone else's woes - I'm tired and confused) .

lots of love to Jordi... I'm glad you came back to update us - even if it wasn't with the news you expected. I really hope that you get some positive answers after his x-ray today. Poor wee man - you and your dh are marvellous!!

Kitty, boy-oh-boy... what a bummer that your helper let you down today. Hope that you have been able to manage - shame that it's a case of having to .

Hope that the accupuncture does the trick, Muppet. You have lots to consider too.

Earplugs are a great tip, Leo. Shame that your o'night wasn't relaxing - that is what I am afraid of most about ending up in hospital (I've heard all the "Jerry Springer" comments). Glad that the babies are doing ok staying indoors a bit longer .

Foxy chocolate... worms !!!

Hope that everyone is doing ok today - Amie, I think you have your scan.

Today is my 'tirty-turd' birthday . It's a funny old one... too tired to really acknowledge it but birthdays are made such a fuss of at my work so lots of cards and pressies, hugs, and kisses. My darling dd set her alarm early to celebrate... but she also managed to trip the time on her clock so the quarter to 7 she thought she was coming in to me was actually quarter to 5!!! I think it will be an early one tonight and leave the celebrations for another day.

Have a great day everyone

yay, Kitty... glad that you are feeling better thanks to all the love and hugs - and the chocolate too . A fresh fruit smoothie sounds totally devine right now... this building is cooking and something cold and sweet (that's not actually sugar) would so do the trick.

Boo... plasterers and tax receipts oi-yoy-yoy!! Sounds like fun at your place too .