babies and bumps mixed thread -May babies are coming!

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Here's the new thread, for bumps and babies before we all graduate together!

Haha I'm clearly spending too much time here and on the FB group too! Taking advantage while DD sleeps.

We had our 6 week appointment this morning, first time I've been up, dressed and out of the house by 8:15 in a long time! The GP didn't think there was anything wrong with DD. She checked her mouth for thrush but that was it. She thinks she is just going through a fussy phase. She is putting on weight normally so maybe it is that she is getting enough from a 5 minute feed on one boob and then wants to comfort suck and gets frustrated when milk comes out so starts to cry and fuss. I can always stop her crying by giving her my finger to suck as she's not quite got the hang of sucking the dummy yet. I'm then stuck with her sucking my finger for several hours though!

The GP also said there's no problem and not to feel guilty if I want to give up breastfeeding and switch to bottles as she's now had the benefit of 6 weeks of breast milk. I'm still wavering over whether to give up now or even if I'll be able to depending on whether or not she'll take a bottle.

getting enough from a 5 minute feed on one boob and then wants to comfort suck and gets frustrated when milk comes out so starts to cry and fuss.

I think this! If DS is fed and grizzly cos he's tired I offer him the empty boob - human dummy. It's grim! That's only of DH can't settle him. He'll still be getting something but it will richer hind milk so filling and not overwhelming.

Not a spy! It's just one of those boring jobs where anonymity is a bonus. Plus work has a stringent policy on using social media.

DD is the same when tired. Needs to suck but won't take a dummy but often gets frustrated by milk coming out when all she wants to do is sleep. Also happens when she is a bit windy and it the becomes a vicious circle of hell .

All very normal bf newborn behaviour. You are almost through the hard bit though. I found it got way easier after about 8-10 weeks with DS. One way of looking at it is that you will have done all the hard work so you may aswell stick with it now. Equally though, no guilt should be had of switching to ff as 6 weeks of bm is fantastic and everyone needs to do whatever is rightfully for their family.

What was that about being a human dummy?
We have had a shit night and DP the bastard is off having fun doing his hobby for the weekend - have been awake since 4 after barely 3 hours sleep and ever since then DD has either been on the boob are asleep face down across me with her head under my arm - interspersed with lots of screaming...I have just managed to wrestle her into the wrap sling and she is more or less calm now and falling asleep, the frustrating thing is that I know once we get out of the house she will be ok, but she has got herself so wound up now that the entire morning (since 4am...) has been taken up with the scream/feed/nap on mummy/scream... cycle - oh hang on a minute, actually this has been going on since last Sunday now! Sorry for the rant...

Totally with you cant on selfish DHs. Mine went out and stayed out (at his dad's as was a bit far from home to get a cab) last night and is playing cricket all day today.

DD is also having a sling day and toddler is having a "I'm going to be a bit miserable about everything" day.

So far we have had a poo explosion, glitter explosion, a few tantrums, five thousand mini breast feeds and a flooded bathroom. Roll on bedtime!

Oh yep, poo explosion and 5 THOUSAND feeds here too!! Only now am sitting in Pret in central London feeding because I foolishly thought that bringing her out would just send her to sleep and then I could shop - it does usually work! Oh yes and we just bumped into the pro Europe rally - it is massive!! Stood watching them march by for 20mins and still it went on and on, I was finding it quite emotional (though that's probably sleep deprivation tbh).
Bloody DHs!! This is his 3rd weekend away since she was born! Only one more to go I think, his hobby is seasonal - can't WAIT till I get to claim back my weekends away that I'm earning! Yeah right, as if it will ever work like that

Poonamis here as well.... baby and ds2 as well!!! We were out and besides rain I had two stinky little people with me!!!
I am really struggling with a cold and lack of sleep and ina terrible mood!!!

I've had an ok day today after fully venting last night at DH about everything and anything, it was very cathartic. I left mid rant and just went to bed and left him doing a massive pile of ironing

Baby ice has been good as gold and so has toddler ice (mostly, though we did leave soft play as he scratched his daddy on the face mid tantrum over a balloon that belonged to a birthday party that we weren't attending. I'm not sure our firm discipline worked because as soon as we went outside he said, "oh puddles...and I'm wearing my wellies...I can jump!" I told him only boys with gentle hands get to jump in puddles and carried him to the car )

Poonamis here as well!! What's going on??

ODog I love your village theory. It totally makes sense and I keep reminding myself of it when I'm feeling a bit down.

DD is currently sitting in her vibrating bouncy chair having a whale of a time. Definitely one of our best purchases. Who knew a plastic musical owl could be so fascinating?!

29 DP finds it a bit weird that the thing that makes our DD happier than anything else is a vibrating chair...but there you go!
We got back from a mega long/ exhausting trip to central London about 45mins ago and DD is still asleep in the pram which is unheard of, she usually stirs as soon as we go in the lift and is screaming by the time we reach the front door - she also hasn't had a feed for 5.5 hours! I was trying to buy new bras before I came home and had to take into account the fact that one boob was mega overdue for a feed...have gone from a 36A pre-pregnancy to 32F as of today - terrifying!!

Ps can we blame the moon for the poonamis??

Bouncy chair - It's the mushroom!! Not the owl but the mushroom. DS is (in equal parts) amazed, mesmerised, delighted and horrified by it. One minute squeals of delight, the next squeals of terror.

He's in it now (without his "toys" as we call them)being vibrated and rocked by my foot to sleep. DS upstairs is capering, I can hear him, manic laugh and banging. Will heed to go up there, goodness knows what I'll find. Today he learned how to forward roll and how to "paint" using slobber on the wall by his bed. That was a fun conversation at nap time.

We had an awful night where DD pretty much refused to feed for the entire night and screamed or sucked for 2 mins and then screamed every time a boob was offered. I was all ready to take her to the out of hours GP as her nappy output isn't great either but she seems to have fed a bit better after a massive overtired meltdown and a 3 hour nap when we went to the inlaws earlier.

We had our 6 week check yesterday and I mentioned about the feeding issues but she just checked inside her mouth for thrush and then said she's probably just going through a fussy phase. I'm not entirely convinced so may take her back for a second opinion as I'm concerned she's not getting enough with only 5 minute or less feeds every few hours and the screaming during and after every feed makes me think she's in pain. She's still constantly wanting to suck too!

cant I'm with you on the boob front. I don't know how big mine are as I've got stretchy sports bra type ones but the size large is feeling snug and I can't do up any of my coats over the giant boobs.

Odog that's the one thing that's making me hesitate giving up breastfeeding, we've made it to almost 7 weeks and it would be a shame if all the stress we'd gone through was for nothing and things were about to get easier. She refused the bottle when she had her feeding meltdown anyway so maybe switching to bottles wouldn't solve the screaming at every feed issues anyway. The faff of making up feeds and sterilising also puts me off.

End d up bundling rh 2 DCs in the car with a scooter for toddler and took them to the Olympic mountain bike park which has little toddler tracks, a play park and a nice cafe. DD in sling and DS running about and everyone was happier! Phew!

ODog - as soon as we are out the house everything seems easier. Toddlers love it, babies seem calmer, much better than cabin fever at home.

except when you are by yourself with the pram, two bags of shopping, the scooter, the helmet, trying to breastfeed a baby on a park bench as the toddler chases a seagull while clapping and screaming and it starts to rain torrentially....

Haha ice you're so right. It's the mushroom. DH and I have just been sat here watching DD watching it. So cute!

Have I remembered correctly that your DS suffers from reflux? Do you find its ok to bounce him? I'm always torn on what to do - DD loves being bounced, but I'm worried I might make her reflux worse?

You're right, thanks for remembering. He seems to be outgrowing it quickly. Thank goodness! He loves being bounced and it doesn't cause any problems. That bouncy seat is one of the best baby products we bought. Along with next to you sleep cot and sangenic poo bin.

Did everyone have a good weekend? We went on a steam train today, toot toot!

Glad your DS is getting better. I'm hoping DD will grow out of hers by 12-14 weeks, apparently that's quite common when it's physiological rather than caused by allergy/intolerance.

Currently pushing my sleep fighting DD in her pram backwards and forwards over the doormat. I was hoping to start a proper nap and bedtime routine soon. Think that may have been a little ambitious! At the moment it's just a case of getting her to sleep any way I can...

Quite right 29 - routines will just emerge - you'll start to notice it then can build on it. I've noticed that DS always takes a feed at 6am then a nap at 8am as toddler and I eat breakfast then the rest of the day is mayhem. But again at bath time he'll take one feed after bath, conk out to sleep then wake for another grumble and a feed then finally with some persuasion go to sleep for the night.

We just do one day at a time, there's no rush for anything more structured here because we already have a framework for my toddler. I remember trying to plan and sort out a routine first time and it was hard and stressful and it made me think loads about how I wanted our tea times and bedtimes to be. I remember dwelling over the order of things - do we do bath then story or story then bath? Pyjamas and a song or feed then story.... What a neep I was!

Glad your DS is getting better ice

DD will be 7 weeks tomorrow and I've already noticed a few routines when she sleeps, feeds etc.. We're still not in any routine at all though! She will only nap in the day in the pram or if she's sucked on my finger. Ewan the dream sheep is a God send for getting her to sleep at night but we're still not getting her to settle until midnight.

Hope your DD grows out of the reflux soon 29 have you been able to rule out a dairy allergy now?

Midnight? Oh dear, that's rough! Does she sleep on in the morning a bit? DS settles early - by 9.30/10pm and is up bright and early at 4am then 6am for the day, all burps and gummy smiles and wriggling with excitement when he sees your face. Toddler too. He woke this morning and said "is it morning mummy? I love you mummy"

Agree with ice re:patterns emerging but also bear in mind that things change all the time so you need to be flexible anyway.

Midnight is tough especially when you need sleep yourself. I think I remember DS being like that but by about 12 weeks he was going to bed for the night by 8pm ish. DD currently going down at about 9pm ish but I think it helps that she follows the toddlers day so she has a bit of structure eg. Up for breakfast, out of the house, back for nap/lunch etc etc. Obviously DS never had that and we would, rightly, spend long lazy mornings in bed and not go out until the afternoon. Maybe that's why or maybe he was just a pain in the arse

ice that sounds like a similar sort of "schedule" to DD. I feel I can't complain, except she is difficult to settle after the night feed. She'd happily just stay up if I let her I think and in fact did just stay up on Sunday morning, which meant a 4am start for both of us

frozen I'm still dairy free at the moment, but to be honest I'm sceptical about whether it's an allergy as we noticed a difference very soon after starting the meds - from what I understand it takes a while for dairy to leave both the mother and the baby's systems so it would take longer to see a difference if it was that. Will test it soon by reintroducing dairy to see if DD's symptoms return...

So do some people actually manage to introduce one of those EASY style 3-hour routines on their babies then? I was thinking about this earlier as I pushed my DD round the park in the pram in order to get her to nap. I just don't know how I'd manage to get her to conform to a strict routine, even if I wanted to!

Sorry to swear ladies but I had a really good friend who had a baby a couple of weeks after me so we now both have toddlers.... When he was a baby she "did" Gina Ford. My goodness me, he was unbelievable. Eat, changed, play, sleep (swaddle and close curtains and leave the room - at weeks old!) wake, burp, play, feed - precision timing. He seemed happy enough and she loved it. I was agog.

I was breastfeeding on demand, cuddling to sleep etc and feeding all hours of the night and really early her son just slept through for twelve hours as his milk was stopped. While I was exhausted with numerous night waking a. I was so envious of her but could never have done anything similar. She lent me the book and I nearly threw it across the room!

It works for some but not for others.

ice part of me thinks your friend sounds mad, part of me is v impressed that she actually managed to introduce a routine like that. It sounds impossible to me. Maybe some babies are just more docile than others?

We have the 8 week jabs tomorrow, anyone know what I should expect? Likely to make DD grumpy?