babies and bumps mixed thread -May babies are coming!

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Here's the new thread, for bumps and babies before we all graduate together!

Wow grouchy that's an amazing sleep!! Isn't your DD only 3 weeks? Am trying not to be too envious hope you feel better for it today

frozen yes do take the baby to the GP if you're worried. It's difficult though because a lot of the symptoms of cows milk protein allergy are the same as other issues (e.g. I think mucus in poo can also be a sign of oversupply/too much foremilk. And as you say it can be totally normal as well!)

I'm on day 3 of dairy free and it's a bloody nightmare!! I'm pleased to say though that DD has responded really well to the reflux meds already so I suspect cows milk isn't actually our issue after all...

grouchy sorry about DH issues...but very jealous of your sleep!

Sorry about your DH issues grouchy I was talking to my Gran yesterday who had 5 children under 6 and she said you do just find a way and get through it, however hard it feels at the time. Glad you got a decent stretch of sleep. My DD has given me 2 nights of 5 hour stretches before waking which has been amazing!

Glad the medication seems to be working 29 what did your GP prescribe? Is it easy to administer while breastfeeding? I'm still debating whether to take DD to the GP. She's not had any more mucus and doesn't seem to be in pain, doesn't mind lying on her back etc...I think our issues are more likely to be down to oversupply/forceful let down. It's so hard as the symptoms are so similar. I know I have forceful letdown and thinking oversupply too as my boobs often feel uncomfortably full and leak and drip like crazy. The dairy free thing sounds so hard, especially as there's so much hidden dairy in things! Hopefully if the medication is working you won't have to do it for much longer.

Babyice has been up since 4am. DH took him downstairs when he didn't want milk from me. He'd already fed at 10pm, 12am and 2am. You mums out there that are having a block of decent sleep, how....just how?? I know he's my second and I should be more confident... But I'm floundering now, do I pick him up too early? He grumbles, snuffles and throws his arms around, I'm sure he needs lifted but....

Also is anyone else caring for a baby that seems to be happiest sitting in a baby bouncer? My other son was the same. Hated "being handled" for long periods but would sit and "chat" face to face for ages. Babyice was getting really teary/shouty if he was held or laid flat but calmed when put in his chair. I feel awful that he just sits there.... (I can hear my MIL saying it stunts development and is 'bad fir thir wee bins' - bad for their little bones )

Anyone?

How is everyone else doing anyway? Grouchy - how's your week going?

Who is getting smiles now?

frozen DD is taking gaviscon and ranitidine. The gaviscon is a complete pain to administer but the ranitidine is fairly simple. But scared to stop the gaviscon though as we've seen such an improvement and I don't want to risk it!

ice my baby loves the bouncer too. I see posts on other threads where people suggest if the baby is crying you should "pick them up and give them a cuddle". Sadly that doesn't always work for my DD, sometimes it's the last thing she wants! I try not to take it personally. She also enjoys napping to radio 4... it works much better than white noise! It's quite fun figuring out their little quirks.

ice DS (my now toddler) was a horrific sleeper and I don't think I slept more than 40mins-1hr in one go for 4 months. I'm lucky that DD just wakes for feeds every 3ish hrs so I'm getting plenty of sleep but it's just that...luck! It's normally nothing you have/haven't done. I've done nothing differently with DS and DD. I've coslept from birth, bf on demand, picked them up when crying, rocked/cuddled/sling to sleep. It's just the way they are.

We have been getting a few nice smiles, mostly first thing in the morning. She makes you work for them though!

All rather quiet on here lately - how is everyone doing?
My DD is 7 weeks now and as of yesterday has been a different baby - non- stop crying and feeding and will not be put down to sleep. Slept the whole night with her on me in bed last night and she was Velcro baby all day yesterday and today (and this after 3 nights of 6 hour stretches of sleep!!). Thanks to recommendations on here for the book "the wonder weeks" (and a reminder on FB to refer to it when I posted about the weird change!) I am now reassured that this is a development stage and am feeling lots better about it still bloody knackered though and wishing DP had boobs too to share the load - so I just wanted to say thanks and pass on be recommendation to anyone else who missed it!

DD is similar today cant and has just entered the second 'leap' on WW. It could be a crock of shit but it makes me feel better.

Going to a toddler festival with DS and DD with the rest of the nct group tomorrow. Wish me luck bribery will be involved

Am now freaking out because DD has been fast asleep since 6.30pm...it's now 9.30 and DP and are spending our precious free time debating whether to wake her up and WTF is going on and not even considering DTD obv
I dread to think what's going to happen next!!
I think it al helps to think about it as being a phase and for good reason odog...and good luck tomorrow!

It's very quiet on here!

I'm loving wonder weeks too. I didn't realise that as DD was 2 weeks overdue she's actually going through the development of an 8 week old rather than 6 week old. She's in the middle of leap 2 which could explain the grumpiness!

cant my DD has been very sleepy over the past week or so. If she's not asleep she's feeding or crying!

How's your DD getting on with the medication now 29 We've got our 6 week check on Friday and I'm going to mention my DDs symptoms to the GP and see what she says. It's now got to the stage where 80% of feeds she's fussing and crying after 5 - 10 mins. It's exhausting and depressing as it feels like every feed is becoming a battle. From Googling it could be anything from reflux to thrush, cows milk protein allergy, or overactive letdown or oversupply.
I hope we can get over this as it seems to be one thing after another with the feeding. I'm close to giving up breastfeeding but not sure if she'd be just the same with a bottle. I keep meaning to feed her some expressed milk to see if she reacts the same way to a bottle. I haven't given her a bottle for ages though so not sure if she'd even take one anymore!

A toddler festival?? Wow! We took our wee boys to a vintage car rally at the weekend. Cars, ice cream, bagpipes, fish and chips, met some friends and wandered with them, bouncy castle and camper and. A jolly good day out. Then today, tantrums aaaaallll afternoon. I took him strawberry picking despite being knackered. I don't waaaaaant strawberries. I don't waaaaaant to pick them. I want icecream. I want my scooter etc etc etc. He spread his tea all over the table and I actually had to leave the kitchen because I was so fed up!

Anyway, babyice is seven weeks old. He's pretty good and chilled but eating every 2 hours day and night pretty much. I'm tired but he's so gorgeous. I did have pretty huge pang of second child guilt this afternoon. He was sitting perfectly quietly in his bouncy chair and I'd angled it at the kitchen cupboard where I'd hung a bright, patterned toy so he could look at it. After a while I looked down and thought - poor poor little beast, stuck looking at a fecking cupboard as life spins around him at 1000 miles an hour. Used to spend ages holding and talking to and singing to DS1.

frozen - I think you're right about overlapping symptoms - it makes getting a definitive diagnosis so tricky I agree it's quiet, I had to search to find the thread.

ODog - Yoghurt coated strawberry pieces - best bribes ever - DS thinks they are really special treat sweeties

frozen you sound like me a couple of weeks ago, I spent all my time googling! DD is getting on ok but the gaviscon made her constipated which has not been fun think I might stop it. There's been a big difference since she started the meds though, far less screaming (but still some).

FWIW, DD also had thrush fairly early on after I had antibiotics and it was quite obvious as she had little white patches on the inside of her cheeks. So I think you'd know if it was that? I may be wrong though.

I did spend a long time looking up lactose overload (which I think is an American concept but basically means foremilk/hind milk imbalance or oversupply) and I think my DD may have had a bit of that too. If you suspect your DD has it then I think colief would be good as it contains lactase to help digest the lactose. Plus there are lots of recommended breastfeeding techniques but you're probably following those anyway.

The things which tipped me off to silent reflux were a) DD developed a tiny persistent little cough (reminds me of pregnancy heartburn!) and b) I noticed that her crying was at its peak right after a feed and she would arch her back and c) I'd hear her swallowing when not feeding, then wait 5 seconds and she'd cry out

All I know about dairy allergy is that it is pretty rare in breastfed babies, although it's more common amongst formula fed. Not sure how it works with mixed fed babies!

Hope that helps - it's so hard!

I'm thinking of giving up breastfeeding too. I am struggling with mega guilt and feel v selfish but I'm just not sure I want to do it anymore...

ice your DS sounds so sweet! I don't know how all you second timers do it.

Hope the thread doesn't die out! I think of you all as my antenatal buddies. If we ever met in real life I'd have to call you all by your MN names though.

Sorry to hear about your bf struggles frozen. Lots of issues are solvable with the right support but equally you have done great to get this far so if you want to switch then do it and be guilt free.

ice - I totally get the 2nd child guilt. Poor DD spends most of her days in the vibrating chair or the sling and is dragged about to all sorts. She got stroked by about 20 toddlers today at toddler group.

Going to invest in some yoghurt covered strawberry pieces. I was always of the view that food shouldn't be used for bribery and that bribery in general was poor parenting. Obviously this was in my pre child Days when I knew everything .

Just seen your post 29. Same applies to everyone re: feeding not guilt. If you are feeding your baby then you are a good mum. End of. Bf is a hard and lonely road. We weren't ever meant to do this alone. We are supposed to have a village of lactating women of all generations to help lighten the load when we need a break. Western culture means that this doesn't happen anymore so we are left to go it alone. It's tough and you should not feel guilty for choosing to stop. Having said that, I felt the same as you guys the whole time I fed DS (although I had an easy journey I just wanted someone to be able to help me!), I stopped feeding him at 5ish months and I regretted it. Bottle feeding didn't help him sleep and I missed the convenience of bf. The grass isn't always greener.

I love it this time around though as I knew what to expect and it wasn't all such a shock.

Hope the thread doesn't die out! I think of you all as my antenatal buddies. If we ever met in real life I'd have to call you all by your MN names though.

I agree - sometimes find myself wondering how you all are. It's great having mums who are in the same boat as you. It's a virtual village

Is the fab page more active?

Ice Odog and 29 the FB group is v active and most people from the original pregnancy thread have completely migrated there except me because I have a chat addiction - send me a PM if you want to join over there for more chat and BABY PHOTOS!!

Ok for the idiots amongst us (meaning me) how do I find the Facebook group? Can't even figure out how to PM from my phone..

Feeling sad that the group is dying out and not seeing as many posts and updates!

Arm not an idiot! The group is private so can't be found in a search (unless FB changed security settings in that too!!) - send me a PM and I can add you!

I meant army not arm, obvs

I can't join FB group for work reasons but I'm so sad to be missing out. Really want to see the wee babies and keep up with folk. Might need to make an account just for maybabies.

Oh Ice that IS a shame! also am completely intrigued about the work reasons - are you a spy? Let me know if you do!
Perhaps a secret profile just for baby group purposes as somebody else just told me they have done today! I am envious that you are not completely horribly addicted to FB like I am - I need to try and wean myself off MN as it's a bit much using both!

ice I'm in the same boat sadly not a spy though, are you?! and I've got a FB profile just for baby pages! Can you do the same?