We're handholding for the newly graduated viroids and handing out hooyahs to badly behaved miroids. Between womble pains and boobs with veins, some of us are still managing to shag! It's JS Grads 47!

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Welcome, welcome, welcome to the 47th grads thread... celebrating the success of Just Shagging in getting us viroids upduffed!

For those that don't know, a 'viroid' is from the original JSing thread 1, where someone was trying to type ladies (in reference to all the JSing ladies), but their phone decided to call us all viroids instead!

The name stuck and we've been the JSing viroids ever since.

The 46th grads thread is here

The thread we have graduated from is here in its 60th outing. WARNING: they're all a bit kerazy not to mention randy!

There is also a Just Mumming thread here for once your babies come along, or to keep up with the graduated graduates!

There is also a private facebook group (so it doesn't give the game away in your news feed!)... if you want to join to see photos of new babies etc, just ask in-thread!

Here is the stats list, please update your own spot with any updates.

Oh god sorry merm didn't mean to put you off. Recovery wise I found it pretty bloody easy. Obv do not lift anything and take it easy but yeah I found it smooth sailing

Ps WellErr is me, I nc now and then but forgot to change back...!

country not put off at all!! (Not that I have a choice!)

Ladies - today I am wearing giant size 20 granny knickers (just to try them on for size obvs) and I am in love....I may never go back to normal underwear!

Also, 25wks today - I'm going to be on a weekly count now, to see if I can get to at least 28! Ovia says babies are the size of a baseball mitt/tarte tatin/prairie dog....

In my head a baseball mitt is considerably bigger than a tarte tatin. But I know which I'd rather eat.

DH and I have issues with Ovia's french patisserie sizing also....

Sorry to hear of the GD, Lil, though I'm pleased you know about it. Hopefully you can control sugars with just diet.

Mer, I'm keeping my gingers that your little one keeps growing at least for the next 3 weeks or so.

Day of drama yesterday, heavy bleeding and fearing the worst. Away from home, but managed to persuade a few favours and was admitted for a scan locally. Despite a red tide of doom, there's still a tiny heart beating in there! Not out of the woods yet, there's a big haematoma next to the pregnancy that may yet all come away but I'm hoping and praying it's a stubborn and clingy bean.

I'd totally take on a baseball mitt sized tarte tatin.

You won't ever go back to normal pants mer

Chat hope everything's ok

I'm having a trying day. I need someone to tell me that this is actually hard and I'm not just pathetic.

I just want to go back to bed. For a week.
Nearly 21 weeks and with a 3 year old and 1 year old. No childcare (not even paid) and no family nearby. H (who I have fallen out with massively) works 7 days so no respite there.

I am fed up of getting up at 6.30 every morning after a broken nights sleep dealing with ill children and endless toilet trips and heartburn. The days are too long. Im fed up of the constant arguing and fighting between the children and the whining and tantrums. I have had ENOUGH.

And I'm fed up with H giving me jobs to do 'because I'm in the house all day with all this time' and then questioning why I don't manage it all.
I kind of understand, as before having DC I thought that it would be a piece of cake too. But it's not.

Sorry to be so bloody morose.

YB it is bloody hard - especially with no help/respite. I haven't even got other kids to blame! Just trying to find some paperwork has left me needing to sit down....god knows how I'd survive if I had to look after actual children too!

Is there anyway your H can spend just one day with the children to see how hard it is?

Can you find and get to a mother and baby/toddler group where you can dump the kids and get a brew and a sit down for an hour? I've been researching local groups for when the girls arrive, so that I've got places to go, even if it's just for an hour. I've found 2, which is fab, cos we live really rurally...

Nah he wouldn't do it as he's too busy.

There is only one toddler group within an hour of me and it doesn't run in school holidays.

I just want to walk out and leave them all to it tbh. Sorry for being miserable!

Keep forgetting the bloody name..!

And whilst I'm whining, I've pulled a round ligament so doing anything, changing nappies/lifting children into car etc sets it off, and SPD is starting again so I'm just counting down the weeks until crutches time.

Blah blah moan moan

If its any help, I've just had a total, crying breakdown at DH (who is working from home today) because he asked me if I could take something to the post office for him when I go this afternoon to drop my own stuff off...

Gx Chat and sending you lots of positive vibes for a stubborn bean to stay put.

Not at all pathetic YB/Well. Hope today is an easier one.

feathered exactly! Am back to feeling like death today!

YB/well that sounds really hard work, no wonder you're knackered and fed up. Don't you get free childcare at some point when they're 3? Worth putting your older one in for a day a week to give you a break?

chat that sounds so scary, you poor love. Glad heart beating OK and gx the haematoma settles down.

Chat, hope you are OK and that all is well. Any hint of blood is horrible. lovely there was a heartbeat though. GX all will be well.

Sorry you feel a bit flat YB. You can only do what you can do, I say sit on the sofa wth a KitKat and go on strike because today, you are busy growing human/being a Mum.

Glad you are enjoying the ginormo pants mer! It's the small things in life ...

Good tip on Tenna lights Sky!

That sounds really scary Chat. I hope the scan gave you some reassurance and gx the haematoma doesn't cause any problems. Positive thinking and take it easy.

YB do you have room for an au pair? Sounds like you really need some help so it might be time to throw a bit of money at the problem if you can. DH would be in 'serious trouble' for suggesting full time parenting is easy, no wonder you've fallen out.

I'm not sure I can get on board with the giant pants. Mainly because I now seem to be having hot flushes. Just walked back from town and I wanted to rip all of my clothes off about halfway home.

canters if only I could - the nearest places are at least half an hour away and full. Might look into it a bit more though.

I'm getting a mothers help in a month or so when I start to get bigger, 3/4 hours a day or so so that will help a lot, as long as we find someone nice. Had a lovely girl last year but she's moved away

I'll be ok again soon, I never stay down for long!

Just taken the little horrors on an hour long bike ride/walk so at least they're not going nuts any more. Having tuna pasta then off to the supermarket for an outing. TOO exciting.

I'm buying cake, needless to say.

What's everyone else doing today?

fruit we considered an au pair but I just can't handle a stranger in the house when I'm heavily pregnant, plus if they're crap it'll just be extra stress.
The annoying thing is he KNOWS it's not fucking easy. He's fantastic usually. He's a farmer and we've been lambing, he's been doing days and nights for weeks, hasn't had a day off since Christmas and has been coping on around 5 hours sleep a night but never complains, hence anything I do pales by comparison.

Summer needs to hurry the fuck up. Everything will be better when the sun is out!

Oh fuck off name change...!

FTR, I'm not being sneaky...I just NC now and then but try to keep yb for JS for continuity's sake!

YB any chance you could get the GPs (DH's parents) round for a long visit to look after the children whilst you swan off to your own parents' for some R&R? Sounds like you need a longer break/refresh to look after yourself for a while.

Chat that must have been horrible. Very happy to hear that there was a little heartbeat. Hope you can take it easy. I've no idea of what a haematoma can do, but sending lots of positive thoughts your way.

YB ooh, lambing....yeah, that's no fun...I have several farmer friends and I had never realised until recently how bloody hard it is. Springwatch/Lambing Live or whatever makes it look a piece of piss when it's really not!

Maybe look to get a mothers help a bit sooner? Or a cleaner in for a couple of hours?

I have just eaten chippy-chips sat in bed...In my defence, we have a joiner working downstairs so I'm relegated to the bedroom...

Chat sending loads of vibes for a stubborn sticky little bean.

Got my quad test results today, risk of Down's is 1:485. So low-ish risk, but looking at online tables that's slightly higher than average for my age, so now I'm a bit worried. There's a clinic nearby that will do NIPT + a scan for £399, which I'm very tempted by, but not sure DH will go for it.

Thanks, all. I'm by no means optimistic, it's still pretty heavy.

Sock try and find out what's put your risk up (even though it's still pretty low), that may guide your next step.

sock the NIPT test is usually cheaper without a scan as well (as they are repeating the nuchal measurement I think). We paid less for just the bloods (and got DNA gender results too)

chat gx for sticky bean and hope the haematoma is sorted out quickly. Glad you got to see a little heartbeat. Will be thinking of you tonight.

yb can you plonk them in front of some Peppa or Cbeebies for an hour or two and get your feet up and have a tea or a cry at least once a day? Our kids also love the Toca apps for IPad and they can be played together. The birthday party one was very popular when they were small and kept them quiet for ages when I needed to recover my sanity.