Celebrating Christmas with the arrival of BabyBloom and XmasPud - we're testing our pelvic floors through the festive season, mince pie tasting and turkey stuffing (nudge nudge), it's the JS Grads 43!

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Welcome, welcome, welcome to the 43rd grads thread... celebrating the success of Just Shagging in getting us viroids upduffed!

For those that don't know, a 'viroid' is from the original JSing thread 1, where someone was trying to type ladies (in reference to all the JSing ladies), but their phone decided to call us all viroids instead!

The name stuck and we've been the JSing viroids ever since.

The 42nd grads thread is HERE

The thread we have graduated from is HERE in its 56th outing. WARNING: they're all a bit kerazy not to mention randy!

There is also a Just Mumming thread HERE
for once your babies come along, or to keep up with the graduated graduates!

There is also a private facebook group (so it doesn't give the game away in your news feed!)... if you want to join to see photos of new babies etc, just ask in-thread!

HERE is the stats list, please update your own spot with any updates. (Except it's not because I don't know how to link to the stats sheet!)

Hmmmm so possibly not worth it then... Damn I thought it would be the solution to my sleeping troubles.

Ah makes sense lil I think we're going to try and do the antenatal thing at the hospital, but quite fancied the hippy dippy daisy thing too!

Hello viroids! Massively dropped off the thread there! Just wanted to pop in and say hello, baby bloom is gorgeous, ELCS best thing ever, birth story soon. Hope you're not too uncomfortable all of you will check in soon

Hi molly
Hope you're doing well and managing to avoid any drama with H and FIL. x

Great to hear all is well with you Molly and that your birth went smoothly!

Kate; I loved the dream geni although sometimes swapped it for regular pillows. It is getting reused as a breast feeding pillow now though so better value from that perspective. Although you could just use regular pillows for that too I suppose!

Hi Molly, glad you and baby are doing well.
Kate I have a Theraline original and I love it. Am hoping to use it for breastfeeding too.
Sorry for those who are ill, it's horrible battling through.

I'm shopping for a preggo pillow tomorrow ... My restless legs are driving me to distraction!! Hoping it might help!? Ooooh bf pillows are amazing ... Once you get the hang of it, you can wedge baby on to release your arms and enjoy a meal at the same time

Glad all is well Molly, hope the others are behaving.

Pud, hope you are doing ok!

My dream genii should arrive any day with my mothercare order :)

carrot not at all, I'm looking forward to it so I can eat normally again (scoff cake and chocs)..! And my hips hurt.

lil I did daisy early and would recommend doing it later.

pee gx for an excellent scan.

honey agree with everyone else. You know more about your own health than they do. Nag away until you get answers

kate I have a 12ft sausage pillow that I use every night and I couldn't have coped without it. It's plumper than the dream genii which I found didn't hold my knees apart enough to ease my hip pain. I use it in a U shape with the bottom of the U where my feet are and then I have a prong of the U each side of me, I have the pillow between my knees and hug the top bit for support. Then when I roll over I have another prong there so I don't have to rearrange the pillow.

Latest from me is that the midwife thinks baby might be head down now or it's a bony bum, so she might have turned. They'll check at scan next week (I'll be 36 weeks so they want to book c-section or induction accordingly).

Also we got a letter from DP's dad today trying to convince us not to vaccinate the baby. We're going to vaccinate her anyway.

Pretzel sorry, what?! A letter? What a nutter! Non vaccination for no better reason that ignorance and arrogance (as opposed to compromised immunity) makes me v angry. Glad you are going to ignore.

Kate I have the theraline too and probably use it on 50% of nights at the moment, it's great for a range of positions n can definitely see me using it for bf etc later. My sister whipped up a new cover for it on boxing day too! :)

Ooh cool. I will look into the theraline then! Thanks viroids!

pretz what the what?! Has he tried talking to you about it before or was the letter out of the blue? Odd. Glad you're not too phased by it.

molly lovely to hear how you're getting on! Hope all is good

My sickness is starting to ease off lots! I can walk through my own house without constantly retching! Long may it last!

Pregsomnia is kicking my arse again though... You win some, you lose some...

Morning viroids, sat here waiting for the HV. I'm a tiny bit nervous even though I've met her before and I know she's nice .

DS is running around with no trousers on, to practise taking off his pants when he needs to go - I expect we'll talk more about that than the baby!

I'm so excited to get my baby clothes all organised, I love sorting and tidying so much I should have it as a hobby. The stuff I took out of the airing cupboard smells v musty - I think it could do with a soak in something. Any viroids able to recommend anything?

Oh yes! Bonkers pretz FIL I wonder if he has genuine fears or is just a wolly?

And lovely to hear from you molly keep telling me the good stuff about the elcs people!

He hadn't talked to us about it so it was a bit out of the blue. Some of what he said was OK, as it clearly came from a place of genuine love and concern, but some of the things annoyed me, like he said he didn't want us to feel guilty if she was disabled?? I just think the viewpoint is really dangerous and if we weren't both from scientific backgrounds it might have scared us into changing our minds.

Had last nct class last night and I've just woken up feeling super fed up about everything.

OMG Pretzel, can't believe he said/wrote that!!

What are you feeling fed up about my dear? Induction? I have some birth reflections I really want to write down for you as I think we shared similar worries, just haven't had the time yet! I will do it soon though and everything will be okay on the day.

Oh for the love of God, DS just threw a cup of coffee over the HV

Indulge yourself with feeling fed up pretz, it's ok. Anything we can help you with?

Thanks pud, you lovely lady. I think it's a mixture of worrying I won't have that group of mum pals I was hoping for (nct people are really not my people) and that they've all had quite straightforward pregnancies and all sort of side eye me when they talk about not wanting interventions. But I know we could all have all manner of interventions in the end and that it might not even be a bad thing. Hey, we might even have something in common after the births!

I think mat leave can be an awkward in between time too. I've never been good without a focus and I'm bad at relaxing. Things are pretty much sorted for the baby and I'm just a bit listless and don't have 'colleagues' to go through it with except you lot! I probably need a project of some kind/more plans with friends between now and having the baby, because the prospect of being stuck with my anxiety for 4 weeks while I wait for baby time is depressing.

Oh dear thurs! Hope hv is not scalded/you don't have a law suit on your hands!

Yes, thank fuck for you lot, I would feel so much worse if I didn't have you brilliant lot.

She's a very nice HV so was wonderfully professional about it thank god, and the coffee was cooling. She made me feel better by praising the way I dealt with him after it.

Please don't put pressure on yourself to make 'mummy' friends pretz - I didn't find the wonderful women I call my friends now until DS was 9mo and I fully felt like myself again again after his birth. Even then, it's just luck that a) they were in the same group as me and b) I like them

Also, as someone who had the ultimate intervention, I have limited time for morons who think everything will go perfectly for them. I'm not saying that it won't, or that it shouldn't, just that expectant mothers with closed minds will have tricky times ahead no matter what happens.
I feel then same re; judging. That's the fucking patriarchy in action right there and it makes me CROSS. People in glass houses and all that.

Sorry ^^ rant

I just feel very stringly that women should support one another but so many seem intent in judging!

Amen to that thurs. That's why I like this group so much. Realism and a judgement free zone.

And totally agree on the feminism point too. That's one of the things I said to DP last night when we got in, how women are taught to compete with each other and I like being around women who have actively rejected that shit and want to step up and be there for each other.

My foof has taken swamp to what feels like a new level.
Happy New Year hahahahaha.

Yep you bunch of loons are brilliant and so so supportive! (Hugs)

Happy new year viroids, may 2016 bring sneeze births galore, or the elcs's you're arguing for if that's where you're at!