We're multitasking by crocheting and blood testing our way through pregnancy. We are waiting for our clutch of Christmas babies to hatch while our newbies are gearing up for scans, it's JS Grads 42!

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Welcome, welcome, welcome to the 41st grads thread... celebrating the success of Just Shagging in getting us viroids upduffed!

For those that don't know, a 'viroid' is from the original JSing thread 1, where someone was trying to type ladies (in reference to all the JSing ladies), but their phone decided to call us all viroids instead!

The name stuck and we've been the JSing viroids ever since.

The 41sr grads thread is HERE

The thread we have graduated from is HERE in its 55th outing. WARNING: they're all a bit kerazy not to mention randy!

There is also a Just Mumming thread HERE
for once your babies come along, or to keep up with the graduated graduates!

There is also a private facebook group (so it doesn't give the game away in your news feed!)... if you want to join to see photos of new babies etc, just ask in-thread!

HERE is the stats list, please update your own spot with any updates. (Except it's not because I don't know how to link to the stats sheet!)

Molly I am so so sorry to hear what a bellend your ex is being.

Thanks everyone for the advice, I did have cramps yesterday but they were more gut than girl parts, weetabix last night and I feel fine this morning. Think I need to just increase the fiber.

Feathered - glad your #poohwatch is over.

I need to boost my fibre too I think.

Baby has been kicking inwards today which is a vastly unpleasant situation.

Watching Call the Midwife of Netflix! It's the episode where one of the nurses comes over all hippy and Daisy-birthing esque. Very entertaining watching Sister Evangelina rolling her eyes.

molly how rubbish, there should be more support for people in your position. It's not fair.

feathered Thanks for the lucky loo roll!

molly you don't need this stress. Get mediators involved and let them tell him how unreasonable he is being. Or can you persuade one of your parents to liaise with him and reiterate to him that he's not welcome in their house and as he doesn't have a suitable home that means he has to lump it for now?

Re using kids as a weapon, usually I'd say definitely don't go there. but your ds is not old enough to understand that yet, so if you have to then keep it in your back pocket. Though "you fucking arse you've left me 8 months pregnant and with a toddler to look after with no financial stability, no home and no feasibly imminent employment prospects so that you can go and fuck around so don't you dare complain about the one day I haven't been able to bend over fucking backwards to accommodate your fuck ups - deal with it or get ready to deal with my actually trying to make access difficult for you you total fucking cock weasel" would be my prepared communication to the bastard.

It seems i am currently incubating a peach. and have had wierd muscle spasm type feelings next to my belly button the last two nights which were odd though barely noticeable.

Honey - I started rewatching Call the Midwife last night! Love it! My lady parts start to feel withered and pained during the labour scenes though....

I've just eaten 3 sausage rolls...it's not even dinner time. Whoops.

Molly what the fuck is he thinking?! Sorry he is putting you through even more shit. What a fucking twat badger. I hope you are ok xx

You pig jelly ;)

Ooh! Just got my first free prescription!

Lil that was just...beautiful thanks again everyone for lifting me up. He's actually apologised which is rather incredible and I've suggested we meet to put some sort of interim arrangement in place. As much as I want to scream shout and wreak my revenge I have to look to the future when we will hopefully have a better plan and living arrangements in place. Anything I visit on him now out of spite he can bring back on me. And it's really not very fair on my children to do that either. Besides, I have to be the bigger person to make him feel even more guilty about what a complete and utter twat he's being

Congratulations all who have graduated poowatch. I have rather the opposite problem!

I aim to please molly sounds like you are handling this sleezebag very well and you are of course right that this is giving you the upper hand.

molly I was going to say pretty much everything lil said. Also, he really needs to wrap his head around the idea that while he has a right to see his children, as the resident oarent you have the right to dictate the terms. He has a responsibility to them to be stable and secure and to facilitate the decisions you make for them as the primary care giver. If he wants more power than that then he will need to try to reach an agreement in mediation with you before he would even be allowed in a courtroom. To be honest, with what you have told us about his mental health and his living arrangements it is very likely that he will be informed by mediators and the courts that it would be in his best interests to play nice with you because you hold all the cards. I know you want to do what is best for your children and that is without a doubt having a relationship with their father. However, you also need to protect them from whatever it is that has caused him to derail your lives like this. As long as he is living like a teenager and making you feel like shit with no real explanation for his behaviour he is not entitled to much more than supervised visits. I gave my ex so much free reign with DD and now I seriously regret it as his total lack of parenting and maturity is taking a toll on all of us as she gets older. All I am saying is put your childrens needs first and don't let anyone make you feel guilty for doing so.

Exactly why I'm trying to do sky. He keeps going on about 'formal arrangements' presumably facilitated by courts. Firstly we have no money to go through courts, secondly I'm not sure he'd like what he ended up with! Suspect the rage and arsiness is coming from the rapid realisation that he can't simply continue as before but living in a different house. Still pretty convinced it's some sort of breakdown tbh, the behaviour is just way too similar to last time to be a coincidence. Sadly for him though there's an awful lot more at stake this time around. Should have sought the help he needed a couple of months ago though really shouldn't he? All getting very irreversible now.

Fabulous couple of posts on here viroids. You guys rock. all round.

So, I managed a poo! I am so proud and relieved! Gx my new viroid led anti-constipation diet will allow this to continue without ending in Jeremies.

Bless you molly you sound like you are doing a wonderful job. It really does seem like he is having some kind of breakdown and if you go to mediation all of that stuff will need to be discussed and will be advised on. From what you have said on here I would be surprised if you didnt qualify for legal aid so it will probably be free for you to go if that is what he wants. I think he is going to be in for a big shock though...

It would seem that I'd only get legal aid if domestic violence is involved which it certainly wasn't but if he wants to go down that route then he'll have to find a way to sort it! We'll see what happens after initial discussions.

Further cramping that doesn't turn into anything. Come onnnnnnn baby! Sick of pelvis feeling like it's going to break. Time to replace it with scar pain instead, at least I can take more drugs for it!

And now to sleep. Goodnight all you wonderfully supportive viroids

Sleep well and may that baby of yours decide to get a move on soon...

Morning! Well, not quite. I am hoping to go back to sleep at some point. Eugh.

Ah poor you Honey, you are really struggling on the sleep front at the mo. Sad face. Congratulations on the poo though! Yes keep up the fibre to avoid the dreaded jeremies!

Come on baby Molly, your mama wants to meet you now!

How are you feeling today Jelly?

Morning.

Not amazing pud. Another bad night for me too, just so god damn tired. DP convinced me to take another day off so feel like a terrible person but at least I'm in bed still. Must make an attempt to nap more today (probs didn't help that I put together a sofa and two beds yesterday...)

honey you have my sympathies. Lack of sleep when you have work is not fair. I have no idea how working mums do it.

I actually think a large part of my problem is travelling. I used to have a 40 minute journey door to door, with minimal walking. Now I've got an hour 30 journey with at least 30 mins of walking.

#firstworldproblems :(

Morning all - I like your logic molly, at least after the birth you can take all the drugs! Yay for drugs!

Sorry to all the non-sleepy viroids. I thought I was going to have a rough night last night - DS has the most dreadful cough, it's really scaring him I think, because he keeps losing his breath and hurting his throat too. But I just took him in the spare room with me when I went to bed, and I must have provided some comfort because he mostly slept through til 6,30am.

I expect we'll find some time to nap together later though

I'm going to try and do a bit more present wrapping today, and cook some food with veggies in it - but other than that it's a chill out day chez Thurs today.

Urgh Jelly that commute sounds rubbish. Can you work at home next week?

Here's a question for you: I have no signs of imminent labour but I presume it will happen at some point! We have a mattress protector on the bed but I was wondering if I should put a towel under the sheet too incase my waters break in the night? (Unlikely but possiblle). We have a new carpet in the bedroom too so I also wondered if I should put a towel on the floor by the bed so I can just scooch off the bed if anything dramatic happens. Woz fink?

Enjoy your day of chilling Thursday!

Thanks ladies. Just woken up again but will prob nap a bit later.

Thank fuck, I don't work Thursdays. In fact I work Monday, Weds and Fri morning only. Obvs my pay is low because of it but oh my gosh am I grateful for low hours right now.

Jelly why is there so much extra walking now? Is it at your end, rather than work and? And when do you go on mat leave? Please bring it forward, your commute sounds horrendous.

I'm in the be prepared camp pud and have got bed mats under my sheet, on my new sofa and in my new car (and in dps) just in case. Probably won't need to use them but would kick myself if I did.

jelly rest you mad woman!! That's what a day off is for. No feeling guilty just getting yourself back to feeling the best you can be. Your commute does sound rubbish though