It's the dream combo of carbs and couples massagers, welcoming pukey newbies and teffrifying norks, it's GTTs a go go on JS Grads 41!

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Welcome, welcome, welcome to the 41st grads thread... celebrating the success of Just Shagging in getting us viroids upduffed!

For those that don't know, a 'viroid' is from the original JSing thread 1, where someone was trying to type ladies (in reference to all the JSing ladies), but their phone decided to call us all viroids instead!

The name stuck and we've been the JSing viroids ever since.

The 40th grads thread is HERE

The thread we have graduated from is HERE in its 55th outing. WARNING: they're all a bit kerazy not to mention randy!

There is also a Just Mumming thread HERE
for once your babies come along, or to keep up with the graduated graduates!

There is also a private facebook group (so it doesn't give the game away in your news feed!)... if you want to join to see photos of new babies etc, just ask in-thread!

HERE is the stats list, please update your own spot with any updates.

honey - best of luck with the scan - I hope you have a very immodest foetus during the scan!

pretzel - quick question on the whooping cough vaccine - did you already have whooping cough when young, or will this be your first vaccination against it?

I've already had whooping cough, but have had differing advice about whether I needed to be vaccinated for it again anyway.

No idea wtf a "birth diagram" is!!!! Is it basically a picture with a uterus and a baby with a big arrow pointing down from the fanjo to the outside world...?

On the subject of fanjo's, at my first official cervix check recently the midwife said she could feel the babies head! Luckily I seem to have the Alcatraz of cervixes (cervii?), so it was still well closed regardless of heat butting baby.

I hope this means we are giving him mild concussion whenever we have sex

AREN'T giving him concussion!!! Jesus, I'm not that terrible a mother just yet!!!

Wow jelly that is piling on the pressure! Nah she didn't say anything that explicitly, it was just obviously orchestrated for education AND getting us chatting to each other.

gouda birth diagrams went from closed cervix, waters intact, all the way through to third stage and we had to put them in the right order as a group. Re whooping cough, I had all jabs as a kid but immunity can wane. I guess it depends on the risk there as well, they introduced it here in 2012 as there was a spate of babies getting it before their 2 month jabs but you're in another country right? So the risk might not be there.

Honey pesky baby has to have re scan today too! Mines this avvo. Gx they both behave

Eugh. Need a speculum exam. I dislike speculums.

Gx for you too country

honey Oh that doesn't sound fun. What for?

Had my whooping cough jab (precisely an hour late because I'm a wally). Now in Costa feeling super weird and ill and trying not to faint

NCT-ers, how long are the courses you're on? I looked at the NCT website and the courses in my area are pretty rubbish. Despite living in a town centre, I'd have to drive to the nearest course (two options) and the longer course (that looks better) is mostly on week nights, starting at 8pm. I know that's a reasonable time, but it's not for DH, who is really lucky if he's home for 8pm. HMPH.

I really want to go on a course (for the sole purpose of meeting other people in my local area who are pregnant/will have babies!) but it's really bugged me!

Honey sorry about the speculum. I'm really excited to know whether you're having a girl or boy! I hope s/he gives you a good flash!

*I bet girl

honey nvm, saw your fb post

feathered mine had various local ish options some of which were one or two days with more hours at weekends and the one I'm doing is about 6 weeks, one evening a week. Although it's also not ideal, 10pm is a late finish for dp, but I thought there'd be more chance to develop friendships over a longer weekly course than an intensive one.

Honey sorry - just seen your FB status. Hope you're ok. xx

feathered is there any scope for him arriving halfway through if there's a break?

feathered mine are the same as prets, 6 weeks, start at 7pm finish at 9:45, one session a week. I know some are shorter courses but longer sessions and some do weekend sessions.

Thanks Pretz and Jelly - will have another look and have a think about which would be best. Just frustrating that there are none in the town centre - so I don't know which course my fellow preggos in my town will go to our of the two options!

Preztel, we only have one car (we both commute into the City by train) so DH wouldn't be able to join half way through a session as he'd have no transport. I suppose he could get a cab.

I'm currently looking at two, haven't booked one yet - the Signature one that I'm looking at is 6 2.5 hour sessions and the Essentials one (closer to home) is 5 2 hour sessions but DH would miss one because he has a lads holiday in Tenerife in January booked around the time it's on.

Oh no, the poor man doesn't stand a chance when he sees it for real! Were they particularly horrific photographic diagrams?

Just had my first midwife appointment which made everything feel a bit more real/official/scary. Have felt a bit like throwing up since I left. Unsure if this is over excitement or hormones.

Midwife was talking about NCT and said to look at their website. I guess the whole 'you will make friends for life' thing puts pressure on to make instant buddies with everyone but I'd like to give it a go, when/if I get a much further in to pregnancy obvs.

Honey - I'm not on the facebook group but I hope everything is alright xxx

Huh I didn't know that whooping cough vaccine was recommended for pregnant women. I had a booster two years ago as part of my immigration vaccinations.

Awake at 4am due to cat vomiting, picked him up to put him in the bath to do it there for easy clean up but managed to whack my calf and have massive painful bruise. Cat sulked off for an hour to sleep elsewhere whilst I worried about him and then he came back to bed. Now he's merrily eating downstairs so he must feel better. I on the other hand can't sleep as my leg still hurts.

Nct sounds traumatic, I don't like enforced participation at the best of times.

Honey -

Oh feathered that's annoying.

pee that's what I thought! They weren't even especially graphic, standard biology textbook type drawings. That's what makes me feel for her, not that he can help his reaction, but I wouldn't feel particularly supported!

ill sorry you're having a shit night.

My friend's DH fainted when the consultant told her she had endometriosis. He asked what it was. The consultant explained. He fainted, flat out on the hospital floor.

Honestly.

Went for a coffee with my nct ladies this morning it was nice to get to know them a bit more. We did the 2 x 6 hour course and you really felt comfortable with them at the end.

Just sat waiting for my consultant appointment now. I remember having this booked at the 12 week scan and it felt ages away! Not quite sure what it's for though xx

Thanks ladies. For people not on Facebook, I have reduced fluid and few movements despite heartbeat etc being normal. Having it investigated.

So i'm reading a hypnobirthing book, and i'm finding it a bit...not me.

Anyone else not get on with it? So many people rave about it, I kind of feel like I should try harder but I just don't agree with a lot of what the author is writing (or find it common sense)...

I've never looked into hypno birthing jelly but during my first pregnancy a MW friend lent me that Ina May Gaskell book...very very very not me.

Don't force even more expectations on yourself - there are plenty there already that we don't even realise we're putting on ourselves.

Find something that works for you

I think I would find hypnobirthing a bit too crunchy tbh. I Am not great at visualising and shit like that.

Just poking my nose in to see if lemon's done a baby yet... No sign, I think I'd just ask them to get it out any old way by now, the poor love's been at it for ages!

Jelly I started a hypnobirthing book but wanted to inflict violence on it when it started up some shite about how if I was a tribal girl from some fucking forest somewhere and had seen my aunts and sisters give birth in a hut with just some sticks and leaves and a voodoo woman for help etc I wouldn't be scared and I'd think it was an entirely natural process bollocks bollocks bollocks. Problem is I work in development and have a lot of child and maternal mortality statistics lodged in my head and frankly if I'd seen lots of women die or be permanently afflicted with untreated fistulae from unassisted childbirth I think I'd be shitting it. Anyway, I felt sufficiently un-hypno- calm after that I gave up. But I like the CDs...