Waving our pom-poms for the thread that FINALLY welcomes MiniLa, it's carb-tastic, all day sickness and when the hell can I nap? On JS 34!

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Welcome, welcome, welcome to the 34th grads thread... celebrating the success of Just Shagging in getting us viroids upduffed!

For those that don't know, a 'viroid' is from the original JSing thread 1, where someone was trying to type ladies (in reference to all the JSing ladies), but their phone decided to call us all viroids instead!

The name stuck and we've been the JSing viroids ever since.

The 34th grads fred is here

The thread we have graduated from is here in its 51st outing. WARNING: they're all a bit kerazy not to mention randy!

There is also a Just Mumming thread here for once your babies come along, or to keep up with the graduated graduates!

There is also a private facebook group (so it doesn't give the game away in your news feed!)... if you want to join to see photos of new babies etc, just ask in-thread!

Here is the stats list, please update your own spot with any updates.

My stabby pains were more like a stitch in my stomach. I've had fanjo ones too but not as

Ga how much longer will it be? Have you still got everything from DD?

jc I'm interested to hear what your GP says about palpitations. I have them too and the MW said it's a normal pregnancy thing, now I'm wondering if she fobbed me off

I have them too, especially after I drink some tea. With DS I just kept to 3 cups a day or less, but I'm now thinking maybe I should switch to decaf? I don't enjoy tea as much at the moment though, drinking more out of habit...

carrot I've always been on decaf so I can't really help there! Means my palpitations definitely aren't caffeine related though...

Bloody hell, I find it unbelievable that so many people in the UK go weeks and weeks without having any blood work done!!! Do you all just know your blood type or something?

Over here I got a positive test or three on fri 1st May, had a doctors appointment on tues 5th May and could have had all my blood work done the following day (as it is I put it off for a week as I am terrified of needles).

Everything just seems so slow back in the UK.

Having early blood work was hugely important in our case, as when I bled at 10 weeks I knew I had to get the injection within 48 hours due to our different rhesus factors. Heaven forbid, if we had lost the baby earlier than that and not had bloods done, then we would have had no idea we needed the rhesus shot. I guess if you've been pregnant before then it's not such a big deal, but for your first people are often clueless (like us)

Mine started when I had a cup of normal tea last Thursday, I've since stuck to decaf but still get them. To be honest pretzel I think the midwife just didn't want to deal with it over the phone. I think their answer to everything is go and see the GP to cover their backs. I'll let you know what they say but I'm fully expecting it to be normal pregnancy related.

gouda I'm Rh neg and when I had my mc at 8w I did ask if I need an anti D and they said no because it was a natural mc and I was under 12w I do wonder why is it "safe" to bleed before 12w without needing an anti D... But normally you do get a booking in at 8-10 weeks and get your bloods taken then, although I've known my blood type since I started donating blood years ago.

What I found really weird is when they tested DS's blood when he was born to check his Rh factor, they didn't tell me his blood type, just that he was Rh pos

I do think that on the scale of pregnancy and birth being too medicalised or not UK is actually a bit too blasé about it!

I've been through a continental pregnancy and a UK one so feel well-placed to compare.

I prefer the UK blood test approach, I think having everything done every four weeks here is a bit much, and I can't see what they gain from it (aside from the constant reassurance I've still not contracted toxo ). However I think the routine extra scan in the third trimester and the GBS test that is offered here but not in the UK are very good things.

You don't need the booking bloods until 12w, it saves on needles if you have them all together. I've not given anti-D to first trimester miscarriages that haven't needed surgery - risk of sensitisation is very low but studies are of poor quality.

carrot that's pretty terrifying. Sorry to hear about your experience xxxxx
I can't see how it is "safe" to bleed under 12 weeks!!! At very least it's not widely medically accepted as over here they were borderline obsessive with making sure I had the injection. The hospital even rang us to check we had done it!

For the blood test when your son was born, maybe they were only testing for the rhesus factor rather than the type? In that scenario I guess it's the most pressing issue, but still odd that they didn't just tell you the full type. Weirdos.

In other news, I made a cake yesterday. Even though half of it was left with a friend, it is proving to have been a bad idea. I've already had two slices, and it's taken a fuck ton of willpower not to simply pick up the whole cake and shove it in my mouth.

honey I have to give a months notice on this place so I'll have a month to get the big stuff done which is good.
purple I have dds cot bed and buggy, her newborn car seat got recalled. I have my sisters baby stuff to get but I've got no where to put anything so all the stuff is in her spare room and dds dads loft. I have a packet of baby wipes in the house though!
If i can get everything together in the new house then I can see what I need.

I know blood type didn't matter in that instance, just the Rh but I still found it odd, and I think your child's blood type is a useful piece of information? Bloods every 4 weeks does sound a bit excessive!

Ooh what cake did you make gouda? I keep thinking I should bake something, but not sure what. And my DP is not a cake person so I will end up eating it all myself! So maybe not such a good idea

Thanks pud, I think I've been feeling movements the last 2 weeks or so but they're very infrequent and no pattern at all, just like a little muscle twitch or pop. Happens more when I'm in bed at night or sitting down watching telly in the evening, but there have been the odd day or so where I've not felt anything. I know that shouldn't be a cause of worry at less than 18 weeks but it is reassuring to feel.

I'm just a bit gutted as I really thought I was over my anxiety for a bit at least, surprised myself with how relaxed I was after the dating scan but it's worse than ever now as I'm so attached to the baby at this point! My scan isn't until the 17th, just under 3 weeks, which I will of course be a nervous wreck for! I also didn't realise until today how common still births are in the UK, I shouldn't Google really but usually stats go some way of alleviating my anxiety but it's 0.5% which is ridiculously high!

gouda weirdly enough there was a French girl in my pregnancy yoga class last night and she was saying how appalled her family back in France have been at the lack of contact she's had with midwives/doctors etc in pregnancy. Got the impression that her family expected her to be examined (fanjo wise) at her appointments but it doesn't seem to happen in the UK does it? Have to say I would appreciate a little fanjo prod just so I know my cervix is as it should be in pregnancy as I haven't got a clue!

Ga hope it all happens soon

Looking I've made it to 32 weeks without anyone looking at my fanjo - I'm perfectly happy with that too. I'm hoping that as I'm having a section, it won't be necessary at all

Looking I had placenta previa on my last pregnancy so they can't do any internal exams at all in case they start a bleed. This would be fine except I had an irritable uterus and had contractions every time they put me on a monitor, which was twice a day . Every time there was a debate about what to do with me as they thought I was in labour which wasn't allowed to happen because of bleeding risks. I managed to be so awkward that I'd completely disarmed the midwives of all diagnostic tools they had in their arsenal . They had nothing to go on but guesswork. I must have been their favourite patient

I didn't miss the exams at all but I'd only have one to tell if labour is progressing, I wouldn't want one before, it's horrible trying to make polite conversation with the nice lady fisting you.

Ga you are a very brave viroid, fair play. I don't think I'd be able to do what you're doing without having a breakdown

Carrot - it's a lemon drizzle cake and SO GOOD. So much sugar inside. But SO FUCKING TASTY. Could you bake one and force DH to take half to work tomorrow if there's anything left by then

looking - the internal exams start a bit later along, and although initially the idea of them is pretty mortifying they are actually really useful. A friend found out recently her cervix had started to open, so was taken off work early. She didn't have any symptoms so wouldn't have been spotted without the internal checks.

It's funny how two places so close together can have such different approaches!

Ok this massively frets me, so there's no way of knowing you have a problem with your cervix eg an incompetent one? Could this be seen on an ultrasound at all?

5hell!!!!! Eeeeee!! I reckon I will be March too I mean really, what are the chances or a leap baby?!

looking buggered if I know. They must check for it at some point in the UK though, else know one would ever know until the last minute.

Looking you can always ask your MW to examine you, but please stop worrying - the odds are greatly in your favour that all will be well. Have you seen anyone about your anxiety?

I just called the antenatal assessment unit which is where I'm supposed to ring with any concerns from 17 weeks apparently. Spoke to a very nice obstetrician who said if I'm worried I can ask the sonographer to look at the length of my cervix at my 20 week scan, but otherwise no they don't really examine you. Which I think is bonkers! She said it's rare but I will still worry

carrot I saw my GP about my anxiety about 2 years ago, he was rubbish and offered me anti-depressants but nothing else, just gave me a sympathetic look I have been tempted to go privately for CBT but with the baby on the way can't justify spending a fortune on that right now!

Afternoon viroids.
Special wave to MiniLa!
Fascinating that things differ so much on something so basic as pregnancy. I would have thought that it is most practical, and easy and simple enough for all the different trusts to offer the same tests at the same time no matter where you are?
Rhi that is a cool story. A bit scary but interesting!
Looking I think I only started feeling movement around week 28 although I might remember wrongly. DC was fine and moving plenty according to the mw and obstetrician, but my placenta was fully anterior and so it was just difficult for me to feel things easily. wonders where her placenta is this time around
So I've got antibiotics from the GP yesterday for a UTI/BI but he suggested that I try to manage it first with lots of water, probiotics, and overdosing on veggies and fruit for a couple of days and if it is still there by tomorrow I should take it. How the good fuck did I get a UTI/BI? I never get these things! Well, maybe a UTI once in a blue moon but I've never had a BI in my life as far as I know. The pain has lessened which makes me feel less worried.
TBH I feel a bit of a fraud hanging out here when I'm only just about 5 weeks and everyone is getting scans and planning wonderful exciting things! Because I found out to late last time all this early upduffedness and conception stuff completely passed me by. I can happily talk bollocks about later pregnancy but the early things are completely foreign. When am I supposed to get MS? Are random cramps and other stabbiness okay? And wet CM when I've been completely dry up to now? When does your uterus start expanding? Why does my hip hurt? Why don't I want to eat chocolate? Can I still kiss my cat? And when oh when will someone throttle Katie Hopkins?
Someone PMed and asked if I had namechanged so I thought I would just come clean. On conception threads was previously:
augusthomotherium, auroraboringalis, australopithecus, autonomousplum, and auxiliaryauroch.

auf good to see you here, my advice is hang out where ever you feel comfortable. I felt a bit homeless for a while - too pregnant for the shaggers but not pregnant enough for the grads (hence my disappearing act) but on reflection that was a dumb thing to do - all these viroids were in the same place too!

auf i love your name changes, keeps things fresh haha! With regards to UTI/BI, my understanding is that when you're pg your muscles all relax (the progesterone does it I think). So you are much more susceptible to getting UTI's because your muscles in that area aren't as tightly constricted, plus your immune system is lowered to cope with the baby. So don't fret.

Plus, I didn't get MS until about 7/8 weeks. I kiss my cats all the time. Random pains are fine, and I still get them now. Wet CM is a pain but also normal (see Swamp-foof). Uterus starts to expand from day 1, hence the pain in both your womble and your hips. Painful hips can also be a sign of SPD, so keep an eye on it and if it gets bad see your GP. I went off loads of food, so that's also normal. And i'd glad throttle Katie Hopkins right after the douche who killed Cecil the lion is dead.

looking, i agree with carrot, you need to try not to stress so much. You have made it this far, and the chances of complications are very low. Obviously they do happen, and sadly we have had ladies on here suffer complications late on, including Tiny Chat, so we are all aware of the issues. But if you dwell on them you are going to convince yourself something will happen, and that's really not healthy for you or the baby.
You are entering the best part of pregnancy (so people tell me), your bump will start growing, your baby will start moving, and you get ever closer to the magic 24 weeks. So try to stay positive, we are all here for you remember :)