Fang-tastic fannies, Baywatch Blowjobs and good old british summer (arse) rain). It's JSing Grads 30!

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Welcome, welcome, welcome to the 30th grads thread... celebrating the success of Just Shagging in getting us viroids upduffed!

For those that don't know, a 'viroid' is from the original JSing thread 1, where someone was trying to type ladies (in reference to all the JSing ladies), but their phone decided to call us all viroids instead!

The name stuck and we've been the JSing viroids ever since.

The thread we have graduated from is here in its 48th outing. WARNING: they're all a bit kerazy not to mention randy!

There is also a Just Mumming thread here for once your babies come along, or to keep up with the graduated graduates!

There is also a private facebook group (so it doesn't give the game away in your news feed!)... if you want to join to see photos of new babies etc, just ask in-thread!

Here is the stats list, please update your own spot with any updates: Stats

Congrats la

Knicker watch returns with a vengeance at the later stages too - I ran out of panty liners and so went without today. I have had an inner debate all day as to whether I have sweat, wee or amniotic fluid going on down there pleasant.

I have been out with a group of friends tonight, it was soooo much fun and I am only just on my way home - going to pay for it in the morning when I can't drag my derrière out of bed though

Ok, sorry to pester, but I don't have any symptoms! Didn't have a creepy dream, no obvious womble stretches, and my boobs don't feel any different. I am 4 weeks exactly.

Should I just chill the fuck out? I am paranoid, and feel like a total newb.

Other than being awake at 5.30, that is

That's a total symptom honey I remember those days well!

It's a hard one, I had no real symptoms except tiredness for a few weeks. Bit of boob ouchyness and then round ligament pain.

If fact, for the majority of the pregnancy if it weren't for the huge bump I haven't felt much different yes you may hate me I haven't had any time off sick and I don't feel it has stopped me doing anything.

Everyone is different.

Thank you Fleur. I feel so weird, going from JSing "fountain of knowledge" to absolute clueless worry wort!

I took another test. The new one is on the left. That's darker, right? Also think I felt a few twinges, and do feel a bit sick, but that's prob in my head.

Have to get it through to myself, that this preg isn't going to be exactly the same as the last one, and to calm down.

Try to breathe Honey. Test on the left is darker yes, but try not to rely on pissy sticks to tell you that pregnancy is progressing, that's not what they are designed to do and will freak you out when they don't get darker. Insomnia is a symptom. Hopefully that is all you will get but 4 weeks is very early, plenty of time to feel horrendous yet!!

Do you guys give hooyahs too? Think I need one! I am awake from 5.30 onwards... That is symptom enough for me!

Seeing my gynae this afternoon. Should be interesting.... I will be consultant lead, so not sure who he'll refer me to.

Honey - congrats!! if your symptoms are anything like mine (which they may it may not be as everyone's are all totally different, I've learnt) you will learn to love 5.30am! Or 4.30, or even 3.30 as it was today. Luckily I've got better at falling asleep again but I can not seem to stay asleep until a reasonable hour any more, I honestly don't think I have now since getting pg in January. And no particular reason initially either- it's not been until well into the 2nd trimester that I can blame early morning starts on cramp or needing a wee, first trimester was sometimes to do with dreams but sometimes just a total mystery as to why I was awake!

4 weeks is v early for symptoms still, don't worry.

honey, step away from the pissy sticks. I know it's hard, but they will do your head in!

I wonder what a pissy stick will show at my gestation. Very likely it would be negative!

Oooh, honey, I know exactly how you feel - you got a v early bfp this time round, it's a mixed blessing. 4 weeks is v early for symptoms so try to enjoy this time before exhaustion hits. It's really difficult tho I know, but the best thing you can do to help the bean is chill out. I shamelessly spoilt myself with distracting things like facials/pedicures/new plants for the garden for the first few weeks til I managed to calm down (slightly) after a reassurance scan. I persuaded myself 9 months of not drinking would save LOADS of money! Let's ignore the potential money sapping end result that is a baby...

La congrats on your niece. Not long for you now!

Thanks for everyone's advice on harmony/nifty tests last week btw. I think I feel reassured that I can wait until after the NT test and then have one if it comes back iffy...

I'm not 100% sure I'm going to make it out of bed today. I'm sooo unbelievably exhausted this week, I just feel a bit pathetic and malingering. JC I have no idea how you have coped with getting through your shifts with such severe MS. You're one strong lady!

Welcome back honey! Exactly the same as toast here, can fall asleep fine but staying asleep past 5am is a challenge and there is no reason for waking up really. It's totally a symptom honey!

At four week you might not see much in the way of symptoms anyway. I think usually around six weeks is when they start to kick in, if at all. It's hard but try not to panic and absolutely stop pissing on things as that won't help!

Glad the scan was positive gouda. Hopefully they can get more of an idea next week and at least you are being looked after well. (I also second the name babybel for your little cheese!)

Advice taken fleur, will send my email as I walk out of the door Friday!

Congrats on becoming an Auntie la! Next stop Mother!

You could get paid for that sort of talk if you did it on a special chat line ga I was telling DH how I was so hot that I had to take my clothes off at the weekend - he thought he had pulled but I was actually just hot!

Morning everyone!

Gentle hooyah honey - very gentle as I completely understand that worry you're feeling and it's a very nerve wracking time in the first tri. Don't drive yourself mad poas - you're very very early and it's just going to play with your head. Book yourself for an early private scan if you can at 7-8 weeks, I did that and it was totally worth it. It's lovely to see you here

I'm an auntie to a beautiful little chubby cheeked girl! I'm gutted because I'll not get to cuddle her until Christmas but I can do virtual squishes by Skype.

My nhs bf clinic today - the one where I have to take a muffin - remember I told you all that when I first got the info 26 weeks ago!? Today I finally find out what the muffin is for!

Maternity cover started yesterday. She's lovely and very sharp. I feel so much better about things because it's obvious she's on the ball and keen. I'm so tired though as I was up til 11 doing handover notes.

Right - catching up...

Dulcet and Fleur shall we have a virtual finishing work party on Friday? I've got a few things pencilled in for my KIT days already but I've been told by friends that actually it's more than likely you'll go off and not want to do any work as you're so absorbed in the wee one.

Fleur - I'm definitely not telling folk! Apart from the person who still has my big project to sign off and has done for fucking weeks!!!! I want it back dammit!

Jelly weddings are as simple or complicated as you make them :) - pick a venue and restaurant you like. Invite the folk you love and go for it! Legal side takes a few weeks to sort but otherwise it's not hard

I wanted a simple wedding and ended up having whole weekend in stately home. Mental but amazing. That's what happens though if you let your mum get too excited and involved!

JC glad you took day off. Rest xx

Gouda I'm pleased you had positive news and fx that the haematoma disperses - that's what my mate had who bled through first tri and her little girl is 4 months, I actually found nhs fantastic through this pg - actually very over cautious hence I get sent to hospital with every mild worry. But French system sounds fab! Do you pay for it there?

Cym I'm willing on your comfy baby - cmon baby cym your eviction notice has been served!

Pixie how are you feeling ahead of Thursday?

Wiggly are you lurking? How's you?

And just lastly....MOIST!!!'

Oh and waking at 4am totally a symptom! I've not slept properly all the way through

PS ow my hips are killing me!

Glad Minigouda is okay, Gouda. I had a haematoma with DD at 7w, the NHS spiel was the same as you've been told. It is nerve wracking as they leave that bit of doubt there and there's not a lot you can do apart from rest and keep your gingers crossed. DD was fine, though I did bleed again a few days later.

Congrats on becoming an auntie, La.

Went to see TinyChat last night, gave him a nice new blanket and tucked him in. Sounds strange, but I wanted to be the last person to do it. He looks beautiful still, and very peaceful.

honey other than sore boobs I never had any symptoms, I panicked loads about it and even POAS a week after I had had an early scan! But lack of symptoms is not a bad sign - in the same way that haven't symptoms isn't a certain sign that everything is OK. The early days are horrid! And pregnancies can definitely be different - my friend sailed through her first and then suffered the whole way through her second so try not to worry if it is different this time.

Ugh Ramadan starts at the end of the week Means no eating or drinking in public including in the office so we have to go into the kitchen if we want to have a drink of water. A whole month of it, can't wait!

Aww chat lovely that you got to see your boy again, it doesn't sound strange at all that you wanted to be the last person to tuck him in, there is no better person to do it. Hope you are coping OK.

Chat I'll be thinking of you and your family today. Hope all goes well for TinyChat

Thank you everyone for your reassurances. I managed to calm down enough to sleep again... I'll enjoy that whilst it lasts!

La just looked up early scans... The obstetrician the clinic use for them is my consultant who I am seeing today! So will ask him about it. Maybe I can wrangle one through NHS. Not because I am grabby, but because in previous surgeries my lower womb has been coated in scar tissue, which might effect growth. I'll see if he thinks I need it.

Chat that is lovely, I think it sounds perfectly natural. He will always be a beautiful angel xxx

Morning viroids.

chat it's a good thing you got to tuck him in. As stupid as this sounds I hope I wasn't too hard on you x

honey from another recently upduffed viroids, step away from the pissy sticks. Remember, you little bean has probably only just implanted. It's furiously working away and growing but your symptoms are dependant on your HCG levels and your other hormones and it may still be way to early for them. Plus you might be a lucky one who has no major symptoms. I've been quite lucky so far, apart from painful tits (which I used to get all through the twot) and tiredness I've had very little symptoms.

That said, this morning I had my first retching experience. DP cleaned the litter box out but left the poo bag by the front door (didn't chuck it in the outside bin). I came down and the smell hit me so hard I retched and shouted at him to get rid of it. Bloody men. He claimed he couldn't smell it so might be the super sense of smell kicking in.

la congrats on being an auntie. I don't have any real siblings so I'll never be a true auntie but I'm an "auntie" to my godson and I love it :)

I made it all the way through till 6:30 without getting up to pee this morning. I was very impressed with myself!!!

Honey I felt queasy almost straight away but trust me you don't want to go down my path! No symptoms is completely normal at this stage.

Chat hope everything goes well today

la intrigued about the muffin.......

Off to see my GP today to discuss whether he thinks this is antenatal depression or not. My counsellor was pretty convinced and even phoned me yesterday to see how I was doing and urge me to take more time off. I'll see what he says.

Thinking of you today Chat, hope it goes ok. And tucking in is always best done by your Mum

La - wow, congratulations on becoming an Auntie!! I hope that your SIL is doing okay and managing to recover well. I do personally have to pay for treatment, but only because the health department are really dragging their feet getting me onto the system - this is really unusual. Normally you get 70% of the cost back from the government, and you pay the remaining 30%. Everyone I know has a seperate insurance (mutuel, loads of different types, not expensive) which covers the rest of the cost. (There are some people who qualify for 100% back but it's not the majority). For pregnancy, you get 100% back for any treatment after the sixth month (provided you don't go somewhere private).

So the 60 euros I paid for my injection yesterday, normally I would get 42 back, and either pay the remaining 18 myself, or it would be covered by my own health insurance. It's true that it's more complicated than in the UK, but it's so bloody efficient! The government does put more money into the healthcare system, BUT the fact that each person is also expected to contribute marginally to their own specific health costs means that there is much, MUCH more money in the system overall.

batfish - woah, WHAT? So even if you are exempt from Ramadan due to the pregnancy, you still aren't allowed to eat or drink in public? Not even if you are quite obviously pregnant? I've always wondered how the hell diabetics manage during Ramadan in places where there is enforced adherence in public.

honey - it's really hard, but it honestly is so, so much better if you don't get into a pissy stick obsession. You will drive yourself insane. Try not to worry about the symptoms either - we do get it drilled into us that the minute a woman is pregnant she will be throwing up, or having really dramatic symptoms, but from what I've seen with friends, that simply isn't true the majority of the time. Your symptoms might get a lot stronger in a couple of weeks, or they might come and go, or do all sorts of things. No-one ever knows what the fuck their body is doing, so you aren't alone.

chat - it isn't strange at all that you would be the last one to look after tinychat. I hope that going there helped to give you even a tiny amount of peace as trite as that might sound given the circumstances.

Love the way you put that purple, that was very true.

chat I will be thinking of you and your beautiful son TinyChat today xxxx

Thinking of you today Chat x x