We'd rather have a finger than a funnel whilst eating our bodyweight in Raspberry Magnums to ease the fanny daggers... keep growing those babies viroids, its JS Grads no 27

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Welcome, welcome, welcome to the 27th grads thread... celebrating the success of Just Shagging in getting us viroids upduffed!

For those that don't know, a 'viroid' is from the original JSing thread 1, where someone was trying to type ladies (in reference to all the JSing ladies), but their phone decided to call us all viroids instead!

The name stuck and we've been the JSing viroids ever since.

The thread we have graduated from is here in its 42nd outing. WARNING: they're all a bit kerazy not to mention randy!

There is also a Just Mumming thread in postnatal clubs here for once your babies come along, or to keep up with the graduated graduates!

There is also a private facebook group (so it doesn't give the game away in your news feed!)... if you want to join to see photos of new babies etc, just ask in-thread!

Here is the stats list, please update your own spot with any updates: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oLJqpadAb2givKYq8OJfGCti3s6xzsTGlI-GoaBfM_M/edit?pli=1#gid=0

Pud I haven't gained any weight. It's been up and down currently at 2lbs under my Christmas pre pregnancy weight. I started expanding a bit about 8-9 weeks but not noticeable to others. I'm already overweight anyways which I think is why I'm not gaining. Diabetes stops me eating too much cake and ice cream. Not drinking 3-4 bottles of red wine a week also accounts for some of it I'm sure

He suggested I get my bestie to give me a pedicure if I can't do it. Foot rubs are not his thing. Tbh I wouldn't touch his feet either. I will get my own back in another way though mwah ha ha

Lil that seems like a good plan. You sound very positive about it

It does depend of previous shape and previous pregnancies pud. Plus, you look different doing a bump pic than in everyday life. Those ladies probably don't look that bumpy in their normal clothes! I hid my pregnancy at work until beyond 20 weeks with strategic clothes. Think zyla went longer than that! You'll feel massive but not necessarily look it.

I don't know if you need 10 bags of baby grows lil but they do get through a lot so I'm told! Are they different sizes? I think just don't get rid yet. Taking to DM sounds good!

yep different sizes dulcet and maybe a slight exaggeration, by a bag or so! I have blankets, play mats, cot, pushchair, car seats, stair gate, bouncy chairs, changing boxes, baby bath, changing mat, vests, coats, pushchair. seriously, all I need is the mattresses and a baby

purple I think it helps that I haven't had to fight with clinic for any extra tests! the blood tests were just done. and done on NHS too even though I'll now be a private patient for next round. feeling quite accepting of it generally now, still have my moments like today of course. think its helped that I've been so busy.

Hello I'll catch up properly tomorrow we've been rushing about all day.

Just wanted to post quickly to say lil I totally understand why you don't want the baby items in your new house. If there's any way you could store it somewhere like your mums fir now then at least it's there for when you need it. Thinking of you xx

Ladies in first trimester your worries are completely normal, it's a very anxious time for some especially if you've had a bad experience previously. Try to keep in mind that the majority of women have perfectly normal healthy pregnancies. The reason so many MC are reported on here is because we are a concentrated bunch of people who've come here for support ttc for various reasons, we are not an average cross section of the population.

My mum was shocked when I MC, she said she'd never realised how it could happen to anyone really as both her pregnancies were fine.

I found with this pg that I had to remind myself that nothing i did would change the outcome, so worrying was a waste of energy. It didn't stop me from worrying but it helped me to rationalise it when I panicked.

Please keep talking to us for support, we know how you are feeling. We will help you through it and make sure you celebrate the milestones. I remember getting past my MC date of pg and it was terrifying but liberating.

We are here to reassure you of what's normal and to support you through the good and bad.

Good grief Lil that's a lot of stuff! Store with family or self storage I reckon.

We've got loads of clothes coming plus whatever my nephew no longer needs. He'll be 9 months then. We've also been given a cot, swinging crib and highchair, oh and a birthing ball was the latest thing. We need a huge sort out when we get back from holiday to make room for it all. I'm going to have to be ruthless and get rid of loads which fills me with horror

my mm had more kids when I was a teenager purple so saved a lot for me, and my cousin gave me loads after she had her 4th and final son. it was just after we got married and given with the comment "you'll be having one soon", how wring she was! ummm, yeah got high chairs too. and an exercise ball or 2 that would work as a birthing ball! even got a baby monitor and a wind up toy thing for side of cot! and all the bedding. a nappy holder. dB is saving me a changing station. I sound like a hoarder don't I!

lil its lovely to hear from you. I completely get your point. Speak to dm or look into storage but whatever you do decide is not coming from a crazy lady. And by God we know crazy ladies!

First trimester crew, I get it. Totally. But I was a rare zero symptomer. None. I had tender boobs (when prodded) but was never sick at all. I'd get very nauseous about 5pm if I hadn't eaten since lunch, but never a vom has passed these lips!

Second trimester? Rhinitis, peggo asthma, carpal tunnel, heartburn...

It's Monday... I've got three full days left...

That's good news Lil. Do you only get one round of IVF on NHS? Lovely to here from you. It all sounds like useful stuff. You probably won't need all the babygros but if sorting through them doesn't sound manageable, just store and do it at a later date.

Tee what stationary???? Links/pictures required!

*hear, obviously

Morning viroids!

Had a lovely day yesterday- London with dh and sil, lunch with family then sil left and we went to posh cocktail bar then out for dinner. Had amazing taster menu dinner at a pop up restaurant, food way too pretty to eat. My only niggle was rice pudding rather than ice cream! I will make up for that today.

We are staying in a funny little hotel which is very cheap and room has no window. Bathroom has frosted glass so I can see dh when he's on loo and vice versa. Weve been having fun pressing our body parts up against the glass apologies to next people who get this room Who says romance is dead? Problems is I really need a poo! Not sure what to do, I might have to sneak downstairs.

It is true new grads that you won't poo your baby out but oh my god it's been a genuine fear of mine since the start! I still think if I push too hard it might exit.

Lil I think you definitely don't need 10 bags of baby grows! So if it helps to move a few bits and pieces on I would go there. You'll want to buy some of your own regardless of how great condition they are. All the other stuff sounds really useful so I would suggest sticking it in storage.

My friend is about to have her ivf embryos put back in - this is her first try. Good luck lil for whenever you decide you're ready to go again, and for the tww. My friend who is due same time as me is pregnant from ivf - 3rd try. It has been a long journey for them, as with you, but it was worth it.

Thinking of you mini and Splodge!

Tee I really think it's time for you to encase yourself in a bubble. You are obviously far too fragile to be made to go walking, you're definitely better off at home colouring in!

New viroids the symptoms playing games is normal and yes I'm the one who moaned mine had gone then 2 days later I felt like I'd been hit by a bus with MS. My sil on the other hand had no symptoms til 16 weeks. Everyone is different.

It's our anniversary today so we are off to the science museum

You're having a baby this week kato! It's all happening so quick! Except obviously it did take 9mnths to get this far!

You've done well for hand me downs there lil! Quite a list! Hope your mum can stash it as such a shame to get rid only to need it all again in a few months time. Would be upsetting to sort through I imagine as well. Just ask DH to discreetly move it to DM and try not to think about it. Then get shagging!!

Sounds like a great time in London la. Did you take lots of good photos? My phone is full of photos of things I've eaten. And cats.

Rookie pregnant lady question: how many weeks is it that your due date is? If 37 is term is your due date 37 weeks? Is it 40weeks? I guess I could work it out but too scared by the numbers getting smaller!

Bit of a rookie answer dulcet from me, but I think due date is at 40 weeks even though baby is considered full term ie fully developed (for birth) by 37 weeks. Don't know why it hangs around another three (or even 5!) weeks in some cases- I guess in reality it's a much more complex science than that though.

40 weeks Dulcet.

La I would just go for a poo, you're so considerate!

Although it's 40 weeks from date of last period, not conception obv

Ok so due date is 40 weeks but what about when they change the due date? Because that's not from LMP then wil. Not that mine did, just confused. Hasn't thought about that meaning there is possible 5 weeks either side toast! Seems ages!

I am laying in bed, I try and stay here for a while to rest and DH gets sad if I'm not there when he wakes up (awww!). Today though he has stolen my dreamgenii some how and has his elbow in between my shoulder blades. I'm so uncomfy!

I think in France you are pregnant for 38 weeks instead of 40, but then they expect/trust women to know their ov date and take it from there. Which tbh wouldn't work for me as I don't know when I oved!

Initially they use LMP to estimate edd, and can adjust their initial calculation if you know you have long/short cycle length.
then at dating scan they can see the actual size which I suppose is more accurate, and takes into account the actual time of conception, travelling of fertilised egg along tube and into implantation (which can take varying lengths of time) so I suppose the actual number of days between LMP and due date varies from woman to woman due to the above.
It's all fairly estimated anyway isn't it? Based on stats from lots of women and how long they gestated their baby for, (gestated is a great word, yeah?) rather than actually knowing that 'baby will be ready in x number of days'.

At least that is how I see it.

My yoga teacher goes on about the potential birth month. But then she has no time for inductions and tries to talk women out of them.

I saw my SIL and BIL yesterday, the next time I will see them is the end of June, 3 weeks before my EDD, and they were saying that there might be 3 of us etc.

Is it ridiculous that I have slept for most of the BH weekend?! Feel like a right lazy git. Bean must be having a growth spurt or something. Need to get up and mark some books but just want to sleeeeeeeep.

I'm probably making it more difficult than it actually is! My yoga teacher say that's too fleur. Well, she says after 37 weeks you aren't early and up to 42 weeks you aren't late. It's just when the baby comes.

That sounds like the perfect way to spend the BH pud! Get back to sleep!

My ribs hurrrrtttt!

Morning viroids just catching up after being away on the weekend. And what a hard one it's been! Told my sister I was pg as we were staying with her and she didn't believe me, I had to show her the pic of the pg test!

Then yesterday met up with uni friends, I always have a great time with them but it always involves a lot of drinking. So I had an anti biotic excuse ready, don't know if they believed me tbh. But I found the whole day/night very hard, started at about 2pm and it was ok until about 11:30pm when everyone was so drunk. Also it was hard as everyone was saying how a baby is the last thing they'd want right now (they're all around the same age as me, 27-28) and obviously I had to keep schtum. No more nights like that for me while I'm pg!

lil do you have the option of storage, so you don't have to keep it in the house but also won't be getting rid of it? Gx for your next ivf cycle.

pud and gouda first trimester worrying sucks! I've only know I was pg for less than a week and already I've worried so much. I hate the fact that it's out of our control. My symptoms come and go too, no sickness yet other than the teeny tiniest waves when I was only about 10dpo. Main one for me right now is sore boobs, but sometimes they're only sore if I poke them. Gx for us all, it is hard though as almost all women I know who have a baby have had a mc, it's higher than 50% I think.

I'm not paying too much mind to my 'due date' - DH was initially a bit unimpressed when D arrived at 37w last time...'but I'm not ready, I've still got three weeks' was his opening line! You'd think he'd know, given I work with the little monkeys. Speaking of which, my cousin's daughter (EDD right near mine), had her little boy early this morning. Shit just got very real! He's a good weight, doing nicely so far.

Looking I am pretty convinced anyone who says they are on ABs on a night out is pregnant . Tricky timing though. I wouldn't worry about their comments - at least one of them will be agreeing not to look different in front of the rest, and another one only saying to hide the hurt that ttc can bring. Throughout most of last year when people who I wasn't close to were asking if we were going to have a second one anytime soon I lied. 'Not until DD sleeps through the night!' .

Pud, entirely reasonable. It's what I would have done, given the choice.

Feeling a little bit ill - have just ordered the cot, high chair, changing bag and car seats. We could have gone on a week's holiday for the amount I have just spent

Feeling more organised though.

Thank you chatenoeuf ! Tbh I think they all meant it, it made me feel a bit sad that I'm the first of my friends in my own age group (school and uni friends) having a baby. I mean all being well I'll be nearly 28, that's not considered young is it?! I have a few different groups of friends so I'm hoping mum friends becomes a new group when the baby's born!

Looking it's such an individual thing regarding timings for baby - one of my mates had her first at 21 and it was just completely right for her at the time. I'm the last in my group of school friends, but first in my group of friends at work who are same age - perhaps because they put career first? I don't know

As long as you feel right just go with it.

I've been told to expect baby anytime from 37-42 weeks. I used to think everyone was late but the last 3 friends were early at 35 and 37 weeks. I'm just going to make sure we are ready in case.

We are in the science museum and I'm lying in a bench made of recycled telephones with my feet up