We'd rather have a finger than a funnel whilst eating our bodyweight in Raspberry Magnums to ease the fanny daggers... keep growing those babies viroids, its JS Grads no 27

[Purpleball]

Welcome, welcome, welcome to the 27th grads thread... celebrating the success of Just Shagging in getting us viroids upduffed!

For those that don't know, a 'viroid' is from the original JSing thread 1, where someone was trying to type ladies (in reference to all the JSing ladies), but their phone decided to call us all viroids instead!

The name stuck and we've been the JSing viroids ever since.

The thread we have graduated from is here in its 42nd outing. WARNING: they're all a bit kerazy not to mention randy!

There is also a Just Mumming thread in postnatal clubs here for once your babies come along, or to keep up with the graduated graduates!

There is also a private facebook group (so it doesn't give the game away in your news feed!)... if you want to join to see photos of new babies etc, just ask in-thread!

Here is the stats list, please update your own spot with any updates: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oLJqpadAb2givKYq8OJfGCti3s6xzsTGlI-GoaBfM_M/edit?pli=1#gid=0

Hope the day isn't too hard la, you have remembered it and can mark it in your own way - other people don't need to be aware for it to be remembered. Maybe you and DH can raise a glass or something later? Are you still in pain? I do get aches and stuff but normally doesn't last long. It is worst if I've been active.

That sounds like a great solution to cover fleur, I hope they do listen to you! What a weight off your mind when you go back then too!

Maybe if you write it all down gaggia you could right all the comments down in a card when you leave and then give it to them on your last day. Seeing it all written down might help them realise what dicks they are!

I know wil, all I hear is about things that want to hurt the baby! Mattresses, cot bumpers, shoes - I even heard about boobs suffocating babies the other day. Boobs! Maybe it's like the dieting - everything in moderation.

Oh la, thinking of you and your bean today. I think you should pop out in your lunch time and just have a moment, whether that is just having a nice cuppa in the sunshine or buying something for yourself. Mark the time for you xx

Think it was wind! Big fart and I feel better what a lady!

Had a cry and a cuddle from dh and feel better. He's working double shift today. Got plenty to keep my mind off it today, I reckon it'll be fine.

La, it is a strange feeling. My one coincides with my nephews birthday which I'm not sure if I like or not. Light a candle and have a wee cake.

Deeply first time round I had a cheap microwave steriliser, a few tommee tippee bottles with size 1 teats and an avent breast bump which was both manual and electric. I didn't have formula because I didn't know anything about breastfeeding and how hard it could be. I think it depends how far from a shop you are. If you have one within ten minutes, it's pretty easy to nip out if you need some once baby is here. If not, maybe get a few little cartons of ready made stuff - don't go buying big boxes until you know you want them. You could wait before buying a pump if you wanted to see how you felt. I bought a new one this time and have hardly used it. Although having a cheap hand one is never a bad idea as you can chuck it in your handbag if you're out without baby to relieve your rock hard breasts in a public bathroom somewhere .

Forgot to say La, I got period type pains in third trimester (wasn't wind ). I worried too but viroids assured me it was normal.

deeply I've been thinking the same. I know I want to breastfeed for certain, barring one of my tits falling off, and wasn't sure how much stuff to get regarding bottles etc. Asda have a baby event on just now and I got a pack of two Tommee Tippee advanced comfort bottles, the kind that reduce colic. They've just got the newborn teat on them but I figure I can get different teats to use on the same bottles for later. My sister has given me her steriliser, but I've read some people say you don't need to sterilise expressed milk bottles, don't know if this is true? I still need to get some bottle brushes. I managed to pick up some lansinoh cream, 60 breast pads and milk storage bags (both also lansinoh) from Amazon for about twenty quid the lot. I do want to get the Medela Swing electric pump, read some great reviews on it, but can't decide whether to get it now or not. Any other viroids got the medela? I figure if I have problems bfing to start off with I may need to express for a while immediately so maybe I should get it now. Hoping that's all I need in the feeding department, probably forgotten something.

la that's sad. Thinking of you

Meant to say the two pack of bottles were a tenner

I've got tommee tippee manual pump from a friend while I see how I get on with bf. If it's going ok I was then decide whether to buy a more expensive one. I have avent microwave steriliser.

Hugs and la be good to yourself today xx
I've been getting those pains on and off too, one occasion it was just wind too, and then I had it at night which was so strong, but I think was tiny tee dropping a bit lower. Was trying to consider that under normal circumstances you wouldn't getting bashed about from the inside by a watermelon sized thing (with legs!) so it's unsurprising it hurts a bit. Although I admit every time I get a pre-poo cramp I get excited. It's like reverse knicker watch in the tww.
I am getting anxious about this appointment today. I don't know what I'm anxious about exactly, I think it's the prospect of being told there's nothing they can do and to soldier on until he decides to turn up. Just a sniff of end date would help so much. I feel like I could manage the pain a bit better if there was a time limit on it.
Did you find the panty liner purple? That did make me laugh!
I've got a couple of bottles in hospital bag, but need to pick up some just in case formula. We have been bought a huge Tommy tippee formula gizmo which does all th sterilising etc, but I think I'm going to grab a microwaveable one as well and try and keep the tt one in the box if I can ebf successfully. I've held off with the pump, want to make sure the boobs work first before shelling out for one, so many people I know bought them and didn't actually use them either because they couldn't get baby to take a bottle or had supply problems, and that swing pump ain't cheap! Mr tee likes the look of the manual squeeze pumps but they remind me of the old fashioned car horns that clowns use in the circus and I think I'd laugh too much and spill my precious boob nectar everywhere!

La, thinking of you.
I'm sad to say my due date came and went, it was the day after I realised. I was only pregnant for a week though and we planted a shrub for it at the time (which seems to have died unfortunately)
I know that I'd be in bits now if I hadn't been pregnant again
I did have a little weep for what might have been but so much has happened in between the pregnancies too.
I'm just grateful that I'm still pregnant and that it's going well now

I hadn't thought of buying any formula but I definitely will get a couple of cartons of readymade just in case

La

Mini I don't see the picture originally as I was on app - what a sweetie!

Before BabyPis came I had bought an Avent electric pump which came with an attachment that makes it a manual pump. I was set on an electric pump as I had trouble with manual pumps last time. However I now mostly use the manual attachment as I get a lot more milk in a far shorter time I use the Avent Via cups as they attach to the pump then you just pop a lid on and stick them in the freezer. When it comes time for them to get used you just screw an adaptor on and they become a bottle so I haven't bothered buying any bottles. The pump also came with a teat/screw ring/lid. We waited to introduce a bottle until she was six weeks and BabyPis has been given two bottles by her dad so far (in the last week) and took them quite well. I didn't get formula in beforehand - for me personally I was concerned I might be a bit tempted to introduce it early on as breast feeding can be relentless and frankly painful in the early days. Newborns have really tiny stomachs (think malteser size) so they have to feed often but this then stimulates the milk production so you have to let them get on with it. There is a danger you can get caught in a cycle where the more you supplement with formula, the less they take from the breast, so the less your breasts make, so the more you supplement with formula etc etc. There are 24hr supermarkets within a ten minute drive should anything have gone wrong with this plan and we needed to give a bottle. The leaky boob (blog) has some good information on newborn behaviour and breast feeding. Kellymom is also a mine of information. It's worth asking your midwife if there are local breast feeding support groups - joining their fb page and maybe going along to a group before the baby comes along. They're really useful for getting quick answers (should my baby's poo look like spinach?).

Sorry bit of an essay there in short having switched DS to formula after 4 months I found BF to have been easier once the first few weeks were over. And that was when standard advice was that you could make up a day's worth of bottles at a time rather than each one when it's needed as is advised now.

I think you still need to sterilise for expressed milk? I always have anyway. I also used the via storage cups and then you can use them for storing purees when weaning too. Agree about topping up with formula mucking up supply a bit too. That's why I haven't done it this time as I found it created some problems last time. Apart from not being able to leave the baby , I find bfing easier this time as not pumping or supplementing.

Ah tee thank you for making me laugh! Love the boob trumpet image

Just leaving hospital they made me go in for blood test to check for anti d after that lady on the train pushed my bump.

What time is appointment tee? Ge the tears ready, just in case!

Anyone buying microwave steriliser - make sure it fits! We were given one and it doesn't fit. Damn it!

I forgot to boast about my tits! Measuring on Monday took me to 38F. That's F for 'fucking massive' even though they look disappointing in the photos...

NCT starts tonight. I hope they are nice people...

We had the steriliser out in John Lewis checking the size of their microwaves

Arm still aching from wc vaccine. Bit annoying, I had it in my left arm. It has taken me months to train myself to sleep on my left side and then I couldn't last night. So bad night's sleep for me.

The whole BF thing is daunting me. One of the things that is keeping me going is the thought that I could express and let DH do a bottle every day/ couple of days but I hear that's going to mess up supply/ the baby. My DSis, so has so far been good with keeping advice to general/ minimum has completely poo pooed the idea
I can see me giving up BF after a couple of weeks as it will depress me being tied to being the only one who can feed.

It's a minefield! I don't want a baby that I can't leave at 3 months for a night out/ hair cut. I also don't want a baby that I can't breastfeed. I am happy to express and will get a pump though.
I don't know what messing up supply means, doesn't your body just make what baby needs?

I haven't looked on any breastfeeding sites yet. Friend gave me a book but I haven't read it yet.
My SiL was desperate with my niece as she had mastitis but niece wouldn't take a teat.

As far as I understand it, it's not expressing and then feeding from a bottle that messes up your supply, it's formula feeding. Each time you give a formula feed it's milk your body hasn't had to produce for the baby and therefore thinks it doesn't need to make. So then you feel like your body isn't producing enough, so you give more formula, so your body makes even less.. Vicious circle. But I think you are fine to express a bottle for your dh or someone else to give as it's still milk your body has made. Hope I'm right with this! pis, wil?

I agree microwave sterilisers are huge! I have to take the glass plate out of my microwave to fit the steriliser in.

It's ok to introduce a bottle once feeding and supply is established Fleur. But IME it takes longer to express a bottle than it does to feed the baby in the early days so you're probably not going to give yourself much of a break by doing that everyday from the start. Now my supply is properly established I can whizz off a few ozs while I feed her so it doesn't take too long until you can get into a pattern of feeding EBM and BF. I thought I'd be happy for BabyPis to take a bottle now and again but I was a little upset when she actually did. Like she didn't need me anymore. (I am a knob ) DP works away now so wants to be able to offer her a bottle a couple of times a weekend so I'm maintaining a freezer stash.

'I forgot to boast about my tits' nice tits Dulce

Yup Indigo that's pretty much spot on. It all works on supply and demand - the more demand the more the supply increases. However I think there are elements of hormone influence of having your baby snuggled up and suckling in the early days to get the milk to come in too.

There is the minefield then of nipple confusion from introducing a bottle early on vs leaving it so late the baby doesn't know what to do with a bottle. I chose to opt out of the debate and got DP to offer a bottle of EBM when we felt it was time to do so although I did heed Wil's advice not to leave it too long!

Purple I know what you mean about the concept of supply being a funny one - a quote that is often used on the FB BF page I'm on is that your boobs are factories not warehouses which suggests you will always be producing enough milk. I think the biology of it is that you develop receptors for the hormones (particularly prolactin) involved in breastfeeding in the first couple of weeks and that then influences the capacity of your breasts for manufacturing milk. The development of the receptors is boosted by stimulating oxytocin production through skin to skin contact with the baby and, in a cruel twist, night time feeding (thanks a bunch Mother Nature ).

Wow I'm spamming you a bit - can you tell BabyPis is having a nap? and I'm ignoring the housework

Thanks Pis that's clearer I should RTFB

In other news I slipped out of the shower this morning. I'm not hurt, I landed on my well padded arse. Babypurple didn't move for a while afterwards so I was panicking. All ok now and kicking away.
I didn't bang any of my front so I think I'm ok not to get an anti D injection.

Eeek purple glad you're ok. Are you still on hols?

ust throwing my head in the door to show you these www.mambaby.com/uk/online-shop/bottles-cups-225/mam-anti-colic-160ml-1321/

Dead easy. With no steriliser needed best tear for bf too

Thanks Kato. Yes Pis we are here another 10 days

Off to Rick Steins for lunch today. I've always wanted to go. He's branched out in other towns, a bit like Jamie's Italian so the menu is more reasonable