April 2015 - thread 17. The babies are still coming thick and fast, waving Pom poms a plenty in support!

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Felt we might need a new thread to get through the night feeds and labours!

I've been feeling the same about my cat Chicken. This morning we were all in bed (DH is still sleeping elsewhere with the cat but they came up) and the cat licked the baby's head while I was feeding her!! I'm terrified she might attack her even though she doesn't seem at all upset by her, only interested but she's a very jealous cat so I won't let them in the same room without full supervision!!

Sorry about your bad nights sleep Londonlivvy

X post RL. sounds exactly like things here. We've made the bed safe etc. last night she'd probably have gone down in the basket but I fell asleep feeding her!! But it took her a week before she would... I also cry when I think about how much I love her at least once a day... I think it's hormones + exhaustion. Luckily my DH is sensible enough to keep cuddling me and telling me it's normal which is very helpful for me!!

Sorry no advice re pets but hope it gets easier soon.

Enjoy the birthday parties and your mum visiting, Hiding.

Obviously don't have baby yet so can't add anything re sleeping but my mum is a health visitor and as a professional can't recommend co-sleeping but as a mum she says do it if it works for you but just make sure you do it safely.

RL, of course you love Max. I think guys are just be a wee bit blunt and Im sure your OH didn't mean to upset you. Is this not the day 3/4 emotions that people talk about? You are doing so well and once you manage to get a bit more sleep everything will feel easier.

Still unsure if it's my waters or not. Feel like I've been kicked in the stomach/back. Feel so very tender.

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Oh RL I wish I could give you a hug!!! and for you. It's so hard. Being emotional doesn't mean you've got postnatal depression it's SO normal to be horrendously emotional. I was exactly the same. Even now when I cry I worry DH will think I don't love my baby and I'm always telling him I love her even though he hadn't asked like your dp did!! Sleep deprivation is torture and along with everything else I think it's impossible for him to know how you feel which doesn't help. You are doing great. You have to do whatever you need to get you through. It does get better even if just because your hormones settle down over the next few weeks.

Whoever is looking for Lansinoh breast pads... Amazon is your friend!

Kismac have you phoned the hospital so they can check if it's your waters? Just if it is it increases risk of infection so they will need to keep an eye.

Chicken I understand how you feel about the cat. Ours has been at my mums because she was really freaked by baby. I had her the other day for a visit(!!) and she seemed better not too freaked out but still wouldn't go anywhere near dd. felt so bad I couldn't give her all the attention she normally gets.

Another here with a rubbish nights sleep, she cluster fed from 8.30 - 2.30pm and would not settle in her crib. DH took her downstairs so I could get some sleep and I fed again at 6.30 and now feeding again and I hope she will sleep for a couple more hours because I am still very tired.

I hope we all have a better night tonight if not virtual all round

Don't buy Morrisons breast pads they are rubbish they scrunch up so I leaked around where the pad had been.

Penguin, I might call them later as think the trickling has stopped now and as I was only there on Friday morning to get contractions monitored I don't want to st

Oops wasn't finished typing. I don't want to call in case I sound a bit crazy.

Cue throwing a massive tantrum as DH won't let me go out today and I can't put my stupid shoes on with out his help. Damn it!

As Penguin suggested amazon is good for breast pads.

Am shattered after a broken night, but DS is now asleep on DH and we're chilling watching game of thrones. The Hv yesterday said if we needed to sleep with DS on us, it's better to have them co-sleeping.

RL you are behaving normally for someone who had a baby four days ago and who has had no sleep, in pain, shell shocked etc. Men can be so rubbish with empathy. Even without the hormones a person would be destroyed. It will get better but I was still uber hormonal for about 2 weeks and still can be a bit now, like taking offence at things or thinking I'm rubbish. Be kind to yourself.
I must say though that this week (she's 6 weeks Sunday) I feel more ruthless as in accepting that sometimes she will have to cry for a bit because otherwise you would never eat/poo/shower.
I worry too Greycat although licking is a good thing, I think it means they like you so she might be ok?
Penguin that was a good idea re your cat, they really do love attention and routine. They are like a sibling.
Get the reusable breast pads. The shop ones are so itchy it feels like ants crawling.
kismac if you need to call them they really won't mind. They will be used to it. The waters smell like semen (nice).

I second the semen comment... Gross!

RL baby blues is normal, I cried and cried til about day 10. Feeling much better now

Yes cinnamon he doing nipple to nose (drowning him in milk while I do it) and he occasionally gapes if starving but gets v cross if I don't let him have the boob on a rubbish attempt on his part. I wonder if its because now his latch is easier and boobs are so full and let down is fast he doesn't want to do it properly and risk choking again. If I was a nice mum I'd probably express a little off before we started but he gets cross waiting and I hate using the pump at the mo cos its sore.

Well remembered on the day 3/4 blues kismac I'd forgotten about that and it's prob why I felt weepy last nice.

How dangerous is jaundice? First mw in hos said he looked a little jaundice but mw that visited said he was fine but I think his eyes look yellowy and he looks a little tanned. Don't know what I'm supposed to do
Also,my calves are a bit swollen, anyone know if I'm supposed to rest them or keep walking about?
wine I've got the Morrisons breast pads and although I'm not really leaking I'm finding them really itchy. Would rather leak all over my top than wear these pads I think. (I like their maternity pads though)
firaffe good to hear re co sleep or sleep on you.I snooze while feeding lying down last night but DH stayed awake and then took him downstairs once he'd done feeding To sleep in pram or with hhim while he stayed awake.

Hiding when the midwife came out to me yesterday she said swollen ankles and legs are completely normal and will go down - she didn't say how long but mine are getting there now. I've read that it's best to keep them elevated when sitting down, above hip level.
With the jaundice the midwife wasn't concerned at all, didn't mention treatment or anything, just said it's common in newborns. She actually asked me if his dad was mixed race first, because I also think he just looks tanned but perhaps a bit orangey. She said some babies she visits are glowing like highlighter pens so obviously then she refers them to the hospital for treatment. Have a look at jaundice in newborns on the NHS website, I did and I felt a bit better afterwards that even if it increased then it sounds relatively ok to treat. I think it says it usually gets better at around 2 weeks but I know someone posted on here yesterday that their little one had took around 3 weeks to look 'normal'.
Midwife is coming tomorrow or Monday for the heel prick test so I'm glad that she will be able to take a look at him again. I might even ask for a weekly look if I can to keep my mind at rest.

Oh and a word to anyone (you might have already done it but I'm a first timer! Or some of you may not have to depending on your area I suppose), but even if you've not registered baby's birth yet, get them registered at your doctors incase you do need a prescription - obviously a more emergency you'd go to the hospital anyway so not sure whether it'd matter there or not with registering. Midwife told me to phone doctors yesterday for an antibiotic cream for Max's umbilical cord which had a slight infection. It turned out I had to register him there first and luckily my mum was with me and could go and register him for me.

Yes I think I've got a touch of baby blues - can't wait to feel better. Love him with all my heart and just want to feel better so that I can take care of him better.
Thanks for all of your lovely comments they have made me feel a lot better.

RE breast pads - I've got some of Thais lansinoh ones in which I got as a sample. I actually naively didn't realise I would need any so haven't got any! Luckily I had the sample ones but most go and buy some. You don't realise that you even have them in.

*those

Kismac I thought what was my waters was CM! It was just thin dribbles.

Had a look on NHS website and it did say is more common in breastfed babies so makes sense. Will get DH to prob my feet up on the buffet :)
kismac mine went in Bath and I couldn't smell or see anything.and when I got out there were no more dribbles or gushes.I only felt a funny pop inside and I think they pretty much stayed in place until Max was out.
When my bum can tolerate a car seat ill get baby registered. Gonna try and do it while dh is still off

Dh just turned around and knocked dd flying headfirst into the corner of a cupboard, she landed teeth and upper lip/cheek first on the top edge and all her top teeth have been bleeding, fat bruised lip and cheek, like a blood bath poor thing. And poor dh feels terrible. Her teeth don't look wonky I don't think but she keeps saying "sore" and pointing to the middle of her lip. She has a huge clot around her top teeth but is prodding and poking and they don't seem to be moving. I think probably just leave it and see if they are still sore or going a funny colour in a week? She's two on Monday and we tried the dentist once, not fun. And if they seem OK I'm not sure there is a point in taking her...

Ice cream for tea... and whisky for daddy? Poor dh and poor dd

Bless Daholster- that sounds awful foreveryone!

Oh daholster, hope she's feeling better and your DH is okay after the shock!

Oh Daholster hope everyone is ok!

Hiding I forgot to say, I can't believe we have twin birthday Max's!

Max is only 4 days old but whats normal pooing? I thought he would be pooing a lot more but I have no clue. Not sure if he's got tummy ache

Tilly was doing only 1-2 a day at that point RL. Day 9 and she's on her millionth of the day I think!!!

Oh no daholster bet your dh feels awful! Our big babies share birthdays, ds1 is 8 on Monday.

I didn't remember about registering at the Dr RL20 but Sam will have a repeat prescription for his antibiotics so I called to find out how it worked and the receptionist got in a panic saying dh should come down straight away to get the forms so we could get him registered. I explained I have 70ml and he only has 0.7ml a day but she was very worried about him not getting medicine he needed!! I don't know much about milk when you don't bf but I know my mum had something to dry hers up as she had loads of milk with me! Poo's will start black and sticky and over the first week change to yellow. Frequency varies but midwife will ask you about it so ask her if he still hasn't been when she comes back for heel prick test.

Birthday party was lovely but I'm shattered now!!! Ds2 and I don't really need to eat but the rest of them are hungry

Good evening all, nice to read how everyone is doing
daholster your poor dd, how are you feeling? Hope she's feeling better after her ice cream.
hidingthefear - my dd had jaundice that they realised on day 3. We were still in hospital and dh joked that our baby was lovely and tanned and the nurse paled and asked to look at her as that was a warning sign for jaundice if any parent said that. She did indeed look tanned but when they took her into natural light she was very, very yellow and her eyeballs were too, making her previously blue irises brown-ish. They checked her bloods then to be sure and they said that even with that level of yellow (very) she had only slight jaundice but indeed it merited time 'under the lamp'. She spent one night and one full day with the light on her, (I sat beside her the entire time too scared to sleep and she was so cute with the protective glasses on - we joked she was sunbathing), and when they checked her thr next day her jaundice levels were back to normal and we could take her to her own bed again. The doctor said all babies have some level of it so a little is not to worry and even a lot can be easily solved with the right care. So to make the point - he will be absolutely fine! Just get his bloods checked if you're worried and they can swiftly do something for him if need be.
kismac, how are things progressing!!?? Hope it's good news for you :)
RL - hope you're feeling better, day 3/4 are notorious for the postpartum blues but everyone gets a level of it as the hormones are surging throuvh your body trying to leave... I remember howling about everything and feeling so full of woe and my mum reminding me it was my hormones and that I should try to keep my mind occupied with how blessed I was with a beautiful new baby etc... Dh was a very different story and was stressed by my emotional outbursts but my mum assured me it was normal and that he just couldn't comprehend what was happening as he'd never experienced it, (and he is in any case not the most emotionally understanding ;) ) really hope you're okay, it is fine to feel that way so don't worry about that