April 2015 - thread 17. The babies are still coming thick and fast, waving Pom poms a plenty in support!

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Felt we might need a new thread to get through the night feeds and labours!

Yea rl 21st April. My labour started as you gave birth. I love the name you picked. Although maybe I'm biased because our little boy is also Max. You're not a twin I never knew about are you lol
I managed to feed him lying down on bed before and had 2 hours sleep. DH stayed awake and took him downstairs once he finished Feeding. I know Sids is so rare but I feel the same RL, and think I might get dh to read the little safe sleeping leaflet the nhs hand out just so he knows I'm not making stuff up.

Back on the boob but I managed to get to the loo whole dh gave him cuddles :)

Sleeping on your dp in bed is a bit different to in bed RL20, also there are lots of things you can find about safe co-sleeping. As long as neither of you has been smoking, drinking or taking drugs it's a lot safer than you're told. I am not pro cosleeping at all, it's not for me but I think sometimes things are demonised for a specific reason not necessarily the right reason. Having said that if they're both asleep, GO TO SLEEP! I know it's impossible but try not to worry about it he will settle on his own eventually. I find warmth helps, try cuddling him in the blanket you want to put him down with so he doesn't come off a warm person into a cold basket with cold blanket.

Hang in there Brummagem, not long now!!

Got back into bed after last feed and dh apologised for being so horrible at bedtime and gave me a cuddle

Can't believe how much birdsong I can hear!

I'm just having cuddles after the last feeds she keeps peeping at me so don't want to put her down yet. Incase she bings wide awake and I have to start all over again.

Sorry to hear some of you are struggling. Sending your babies sleepy vibes and hope they settle soon.

Thought my waters may have went but think it's just my pelvic floor giving up. Oh well.

I know that feeling Lauren. DS is currently having daddy cuddles but seems very excited..... earlier I put him in his basket too early and had to start all over again..... I wait for the floppy legs, that seems to be a sign. I also have his blanket in bed with me since he woke up for a feed - it worked really well earlier that he got a warm blanket and went straight to sleep on attempt 2.

It's really tough RL but hopefully Max will get the hang of the basket.

Ahhh so tired. Napped on sofa from 9.30-12 then came to bed but dd up half 12 for a feed. She went back down 1.45-4 but been up since had w good feed but I think she's got trapped wind and I just can't get any up. Eventually put her back on boob which seems to have settled her a bit but worried when I put her back down again the wind will just wake her up... I know that's more sleep than some of you have had so apologies but after 6 weeks it's taking its toll!

RL if max (lovely name!) is asleep you need to try and sleep too. He will eventually sleep in the basket- or try his pram he might prefer that?

Ooh kismac fingers crossed for waters!!

Sorry to those who have babies who won't sleep. Its the worst thing esp when you think "this time.." and bang they are awake. Sometimes white noise works for my daughter, sometimes not though.
I'm upset about our cat. The arrival of the baby really upset her - she's a rescued Siamese and the stress of it caused her to lick her fur out. She always used to sleep with us so we got a cat net for the cot. It is useless and the cat thinks it's a hammock-she has got on it and it's saggy and so her weight could still smother the baby. So I've had to chuck her out of the room. It breaks my heart to do do cos she is already disrupted and she loves people so much. Basically cat nets are shit and the concept only works if the net was rigid, like chicken wire.
It sounds trivial but the cat is like another child to us and I feel so sorry for her.

Fingers crossed it's not just ur pelvic floor kismac
Aww that's rubbish To hear chickenme not trivial at all.I've heard a lot of people say the nets are rubbish and they should so invent something more sturdy. Although I suppose somethig more rigid might just look like your baby was in a cage have you tried Feliway plug in or spray to settle the cat? I have same sort of worry with dog brig quiet but I'm begining to think she's just tired like us.

I don't know much about dogs Hiding but pets are a worry. It's horrible to see them sad. Is your dog eating ok? I don't think they get into cots as a rule but depends on the size. What dog is it?
I know, it'd be like a cage. I will ask my dad if he can think of some sort of contraption.
DD just projectile shite all over me so the cat has made a sharp exit anyway

bloody hell. that was a Very Bad Night. got 4 hours sleep in four segments. yawn. I ended up putting her to sleep in the baby bouncer which I'm sure isn't the best idea but I was desperate.

not sure how to ensure tonight is less bad. feeling gloomy.

So much chatting in the early hours this morning - sorry to hear about babies that won't sleep. You have my sympathies as we had exactly the same when DD was tiny. Ditching the Moses basket this time in favour for a sleepyhead as am willing to try anything. Can be replicated using rolled up towels which someone on the FB page has posted a pic of and had success with.

Who's left? Brum, Kismac, Cowbiscuits and myself I think?

Kismac I often share the waters or pelvic floor issue!

Brum, my bumps dropped this morning too. It keeps changing where she's been bobbing in and out of my pelvis but today's the first time that I've had air between top of bump and boobs when sitting! Hope your pains come to something

40+2....

If you take the cat net off does she jump in ChickenMe? Might be worth a try.

My big dog doesn't like the crying Hidingthefear, he looks us at and you can see he's tense. Once it stops he relaxes back down and my little dog is certainly missing my lap being constantly available when I'm sitting! She won't jump up though unless she's sure there's baby free room which is cute. They were alone a lot while I was being induced and I'm normally home all day so they were unsettled anyway before they even met a baby!

I had a terrible night weds and was despairing too londonlivvy, did nothing different and Thursday he was only up once! Hoping you can nap today and have a good night tonight

Anything more kismac? Waters can trickle and not just pop.

I've got no skin on the end of my left nipple it's from early on when she didn't have a great latch and it's just not had time to heal with these feeds being every 1 & 1/2-2 hours.

DH did really well this morning after daddy cuddles with baby he went in and gave DD1 snuggles in her bed then took everyone downstairs so I could keep snoozing. He had to change her though as she had done a mega wee that soaked her through. He did get DD to help and then brought her up for boob and I got a brew too! See he's not completely useless. Just particular about his laziness.

Chicken I too have been a bit melo about the jaundice. Just because DD didn't have it I guess so I don't understand WHY DS does and feel bad for him. I am taking my own advice and getting a grip. Know what you mean about cat feeling like another child - we had one like that years ago who used to sleep in our bed with us (pre children). It's brutal having to prioritise like that but you know you're doing the only thing you can.

Cinnamon yes why are the men so bloody loud! Even simple things like crossing a room take on an elephantine quality don't they. And jangling the keys just hold them still in your hands FFS. Glad your DH realised the error of his ways and gave you a cuddle.

Hiding and RL - try some sort of white noise machine that you can attach to cot/ basket/ crib to help them get to sleep. There are loads out there. I mentioned the Prince Lionheart one but it's one of many.

Max is a fab name hiding. Would have been one of ours only a dear friend had a Max last year. Don't feel terrible about feeling cross, it's normal, don't waste energy on guilt, focus on finding a remedy.

Brumma and kismac - thinking of you!

London you will have nights like that - everyone does from time to time and they're awful (and see Cinnamon's comment). Try to catch up today when LO asleep and you'll feel much better equipped to deal with a rerun (which hopefully won't materialise).

Great news re your DH Lauren! Not so hot right now on the nipple front - are you using lansinoh?

Two bday parties for DD today and I have said I will come to both so she doesn't feel that mum never takes her anywhere anymore. Fortunately one is a short drive away and the other is just next door. We'll be turning up to both as a foursome so rather mob-handed!

RL try the warm blanket thing and womb noises on your phone. I was also told by my health visitor and midwife that opinions on co sleeping is changing and they don't advise against it here now so long as you follow some safety rules. She didn't give them to me since I wasn't interested I'm afraid... But I'm sure if you google safe co sleeping you will find some. Also give your midwife/HV a ring for advice and support.

Anyone else's 2 week old got lazy latching? Not sure if it coincides with tongue tie snipping but he just don't open wide any more, I get a slightly open mouth and sometimes can shove it in, other to.es he slurps it (ouch!) And I end up taking him off and starting again. I can try for almost a minute and he just wants to find and slurp, none of the beautiful baby bird wide mouth stuff. And gets really cross after a while which helps nothing! Anyone else? Any solutions? Nipples in early grazing stage again!!!

Lauren same happened to me with nipples and not correcting latch on day one cos I wanted him to eat and everyone told me the latch was fine when it blatantly wasn't Its horrid. Curl those toes and bite a muslin, as a reward!!!

We've got one today smogsville but it's my friends little boy. Not taking ds1 as he's off to play at a friends and dh and dss are staying home as he absolutely hates rooms full of strangers so it seems a bit mean to make him go. Ds2 is excited though and I still need to buy a present . Good luck with yours!

Yay for your dh Lauren82000!

Thanks cinnamon. Fortunately I had a stash of books in loft room that DD's been given twice so wrapped some of them up for both girls. DH spent about an hour last night helping DD make a card with glitter etc for her friend next door which she really enjoyed.

daholster my DS can be a bit crap on the nipple if I let him get away with it. He gets overexcited when about to start feeding and flings his head around so I have to watch for the most open moment and shove it in! Quite comedy really. Hoping it will settle down - he's only 9 days old bless him. If he latches onto just nipple I take him off and start again, trying not to infuriate him in the process.

This morning DD has lost the use of her arms and had to be fed her porridge. It's lucky that she now has lunch five days a week at nursery where they won't pay any attention to that sort of nonsense (and I suspect she behaves perfectly well for them anyway).

The thing is, it wasn't an usually bad night. It was maybe 10% worse than some other nights, but basically if I get 4 hours, I'm doing ok. This wind thing is really problematic and I don't know how to fix it.

But yes, I will try for a nap today and hopefully tonight won't be as bad. Feeling demoralised.

I was a bit lax in using laninsoh yesterday so it's my own fault really. I need to find some other breast pads though as the ones I've got feel a bit scratchy round the outside edge and it's irritating me so I've not been wearing them unless I'm going out. I'd invest in some reusables but I'm struggling to keep up with the washing as it is.

rl I know you've had similar problem to me with putting him down but I managed it this morning so thought I'd share in case it works for you too (although it could have been a fluke). if you're feeding sat up put blanket behind your back so it warms up and smells like you. And when he was done feeding I lay him on my chest and after a few mins leaned forward slowly so that he was eventually in the lying in his back position. he stirred so I leaned back again and tried again in another minute or so and I only put him down in the pram once I could lie him back without waking.

Ooo not long to go fizzy,brum, cowbiscuits, kismac (not sure who else)

Mum flew in from Spain last night so she could see us today and she goes back again tomorrow. Said she couldn't wait to meet him so she's still gonna fly back out again in a few weeks time for Longer. It'd my great grandma's birthday today and I forgot to get her a card :/ so I moonpig'd one at 4 this morning and put baby pic on so it will be there on Monday. I'm sure she won't mind (she's prob forgot it's her birthday anyway seen as she's 92)

X-posts daholster are you still putting nipple to nose? I find that helps if he's being lazy! Worst case of he's got very hungry, he cries if it's not instant and that makes a biiiiig open mouth.

I love tommee tippee breast pads Lauren82000, I tried my free sample of lansinoh one yesterday and they are excellent but haven't actually seen them in a shop! Maybe mothercare but my nearest one is now 35 miles away as they shut our local one.

That's lovely Hidindthefear, enjoy the time with your mum

Lauren I recommend lansinoh pads sold in both my local boots and waitrose

I'm too scared to risk it cinnamon; she is definitely interested in getting in because she has jumped onto the railings tightrope style and stands on back legs looking in thru slats!! If baby cries the cat investigates!
God DD really clamping down on my nipples yeow why do they do that?!
I'm tired today too. I shouldn't complain cos my DD can do up to 3hrs at a time; normally though it's 90mins-120mins. And she makes animal noises and farts so my sleep is broken anyway.
Sorry you have jaundice woes too smogs. Its hard to bear anything being wrong when it's a new baby even tho logically you know it's going to be ok because so many people have said to me "oh yeah my DC had jaundice". I mean, I had it and so did OH but I still felt a sense of doom! I get upset if DD has scratched herself and feel guilty! Fgs. Is it a Mum thing to feel guilty, anxious and judged?!
RL I noticed people on the FB page (are you on there) singing the praises of that sheep. Ewan the sheep-he makes womb noises. Maybe he would help you?

Thanks for all of your comments. Had an absolute awful breakdown after my last post after OH asked me 'what's that depression thing you can get after you've had a baby?' I burst into tears (again) and explained that I can't have that because I love him and it's more that I can't sleep because I'm anxious about it. I'm a new mum and have no experience as such with babies. He went on to ask 'you do love him don't you?' Eurgh almost making me cry typing that cue me quietly but angrily saying 'how f*ing dare you even say that'

Anyway. We did end up co sleeping which is something I never thought I'd do at all. He was settled fast asleep and I needed to go to sleep. So reluctantly I did and managed to get 3 hours. It doesn't solve the problem of the Moses basket situation though

Hope everyone had a good nights rest. OH is going to watch Max now whilst I go back to bed for an hour. I don't want to but it will hopefully make me feel better. I'm going to be one of them clingy mums aren't i .