December 2015 #2

[toadierocks]

As the 1st trimester sets in, its all sick-bags, ginger tea and laxatives! All aboard!

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Also toadie, did you temp as well as OPK?

Thank you- I did wonder!

toadie I'm so sorry to hear about your scan, the same thing happened to me too last year - early scan with heartbeat visible but measuring almost two weeks behind my dates, no one would believe me something was wrong, two weeks later bean had died.

As for you dates, I ov'd on 20 March and got my first BFP on 30 March also, so you could feasibly have ov'd a few days later than you thought or simply implanted a little later. I'm 6+4 today, but this is still a way ahead of 5+2... there is a slim chance that everything will be ok as early scan dates can be up to 5 days out, but I guess it doesn't look good. I hope you can keep busy until next Monday.

whatsfor I work for a private publishing company reporting on agricultural commodities. Very boring!

Toadie I'm so sorry to hear your news. X

toadie I really hope that its good news at your next scan, I can only imagine how hard the next few days will be while you wait and Ill be thinking of you.

Hi ladies just got my BFP from my dates my due date should be 30th December! Super nervous about everything going ok Congratulations to everyone else!x

Marking my spot!

Toadie I'm sorry you're feeling like this I hope you get some answers on your next scan.

Another day of being shattered for me. Here's me worrying about this pregnancy cos I've not had many symptoms and now I can barely function with tiredness!

Hi newbies! Congrats on the bfps!

I hope you get some good news toadie x

Dh is reluctant to get early scan but I want one! thinking of just booking one. They call them 'reassurance scans' and I want reassuring!

Eek private scan booked for the 17th of May! Feels ages away but makes sense to do it after 9 weeks for me.

Hi all, how exciting - new thread!

toadie, you poor thing - it must be so worrying to be in your position, but as the others have said, there is a chance that you ov'd much later than expected and that everything really is, like the midwife said, just fine. FX for the next scan which I hope will put your mind at rest.

As for the early scan debate, chops and others, it really is a tough one. I've booked mine privately for Thursday when I'll be 7 weeks, partly because of the scary spotting I've been having and partly just to set my mind at rest and so that I don't have to spend another 5 weeks in the dark before my 12 week scan. At least after Thursday I'll know whether it's already game over, or whether I've managed to hang onto the little bean and grow it for 6 weeks. That said, I do completely understand those trying to put it off until a later date. There's the risk that if you scan early and all looks OK, you get your hopes up too early when there is still a real risk of MC. Then the 12 week scan will be even more painful if it turns out that you have MCd.

To be honest, I think it depends on the individual - we all know that this is a risky time, and some people would rather not get started with scans until they are at the relatively 'safe' 12 week mark, while others can't deal with the not knowing.

One thing stressing me out a bit is that right after Thursday's scan we are going to dinner with my parents. I can't decide whether we should tell them, assuming the scan's gone well. We weren't going to tell them until 9 or 10 weeks, when I originally had my scan booked, but 7 weeks feels super early. I really don't want to have to turn around in a few weeks' time and tell them I've MC'd, so I'd like to avoid that risk by not telling them yet. That said, I'm so impatient to share the news with them, and I don't want to have to lie about why I'm not drinking. It's my mum's birthday, and would be such a nice birthday present to be able to tell her!

Having had a MC sweets, I found telling people made things easier. I wanted to talk about it. I think you should tell people who would support you if anything went wrong, for me that was my parents and they've known from day 1 with this baby. I liked that the little bean I lost had been thought of and in people's hearts before we lost them and then mourned by its grandparents too. Everyone's different though so I'd just go with how you feeling after the scan.

Sweets I guess it all boils down to if you'd want to tell them you'd mc or not. I've told my parents because if I do mc then I can't imagine not telling them that anyway. I did the same before the mc in Nov that I had. It gave them a greater understanding, though it was hard to feel like I disappointed them. Only you know how they'd react to each situation! Fingers crossed for Thursday for you

toadie could well have been late ov. According to LMP I should be 9 weeks today but the dtd dates are totally wrong (we were both sick and definitely not in the mood!) and I had an epu scan two weeks ago that puts me at 7 weeks today, which fits perfectly with my dtd dates. It's not uncommon. I'm booked for midwife in two weeks and scan plus harmony test in four. Due 8 Dec.

Thanks so much for your kind words and support ladies, this is going to be a tough week that's for sure but what will be will be, in some weird way at least I know now and I'm not going to have weeks of thinking everything is ok and it's not.

I'm having a good cry today and just bringing my head round to the inevitable but I did call the EPAC and they said that they'll take the recommendation from the private scan rather than having to jump through their hoops too. because there are no symptoms of MC it'll mean it'll probably have to chemically terminated again which is horrible but I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.

Does anyone know anything or have a good link to 'normal' progesterone levels during pregnancy? Just been wondering if perhaps that's what is happening to me as I have no problem with fertilization or it attaching but this will be the second one that hasn't made it week 6+ and I'm also trying and find a reason why my body isn't recognizing that the pregnancy is failing. please excuse my mad rambling but I'm trying to make sense of it all.

Sweets I do hope this week flies past for both of us and you get some good positive news on Thursday but I definitely think the same as Haribo and Jcandy that telling certain people helps with support whatever the outcome, I told my mum last week and then had to call her this morning with the update, was good to have a good cry on my mum tho. I'll be thinking of you Thursday. what time is it?

Re the private scans, obviously I had my reasons to scan early and certainly if you have any symptoms I think it's a good idea but I would wait until perhaps 8-9 weeks to avoid any date confusion and then end up in the same sort of pickle that I'm in, if that makes sense.

Welcome to the Newbies and congratulations on the BFP's, I've added you onto the Stats

Hi Mship thank for your comforting words, I have so many tests and dates flying around in my head, I'm truly hoping that it will all be ok. When you got dated at 7 weeks did you get anymore information from the scanner? did they say that it was common that this happens? Or did the scan show you were 5 week when you thought you were 7? Sorry for fishing for information here!

Thanks haribo and jcandy, I think I'll have to see how the scan goes - if it's positive I might not be able to resist telling them, but if anything looks dodgy I'll have to hold back. I think I'd rather not excite them and then have to disappoint them if I do MC at a later stage, but equally, I think they'd cope with it and it would be nice to be able to talk about it with my mum. I know she MCd at a relatively late stage between me and my sister, so she's been through it herself.

toadie, thanks. Scan is after work, 5.30pm, so straight to the parental dinner right afterwards!! Sorry to hear you have been having a good cry, although sometimes it can be quite cathartic to just let it all out. Try not to think too much about the termination possibility, though - like you say, cross the bridge when you come to it, and for now keep some hope for Monday's scan.

Toadie and sweets, thinking of you both. This is so tough. Sending hugs. I'm having a melt down as had a bit of brown spotting last night and today. I'm really struggling to think positively that it's not going to end the way the last one did. I just don't know what to do as the early early scans last time showed nothing and it was just a waiting game. I just want to be a mum

toadie I hope everything's ok, fingers crossed for you. I had an early scan too due to bleeding and I thought I was 8+5 then (based on lmp) but they said I was measuring 7+2. I've had the same worries as you, but it could be that you ov'd later than you thought or that the scan measurements are slightly off. A tiny difference at this stage in size can make a big difference in dates, and I think that I am actually somewhere between my dates and the scan dates. Hopefully by 12 weeks or your next scan things will have caught up a bit. Try not to think the worst just yet.

Oh fizzie, thinking of you too. Try not to panic about the spotting, although I know that's much easier said than done! You know it can be completely normal, though, and not a sign of something going wrong. It must be doubly hard to stay positive if you lost the last one.

Well I take everything back I said about my GP not referring me for an early scan when he said he would - he just called to say I've got an appointment at the EPU on Thursday morning! Eek!

Totally agree with haribo and jcandy about telling close family/friends, if the worst were to happen you need all the support you can get. And don't worry about "disappointing" people, my mum actually said to me that she would have been more upset if she'd found out I hadn't told her about my mc.

fizzie try not to panic (though I know it's impossible), brown spotting could just be some old blood left from implantation. Fx for you.

Thinking of Sweets, Toadie and Fizz I'm sorry you're having troubles. I had a mc at 5weeks last time and was back and fourth from the hospital and I had enough in the end. I'm not going near the hospital till I'm 12 weeks what will be will be.

Hello to newbies can't remember all of you but hi!

I've been ok smells is my big thing at the moment currently garlic and dog yuk! Boobs are sore and just tiredness. I'm of for my booking in appoinment with gp on Monday. Opting for home birth as I have quick labours my last was under an hour, she was delievered by Dh and a paramedic. I was wondering if it's possible to be induced because of quick labours it was pretty scary last time.

An hour, jodie.....???!!!! Mine took FOUR DAYS. Well jell

So have been slightly twitchy re booking appointments etc - am now 8+2 and nada. Called the hospital to check that when they SAID they'd update my address from last time when I had DD they had actually done so.

They hadn't. So all appointments had gone to my old address. Just as well I rang