July 2015 - into the final trimester we go!

[broodylicious]

Hope this works....

I am very upset today.

I am trying to organize something nice for my DH for his birthday, but his friends are jackasses and ruining everything!

Loopy if they have identified a risk factor that means you need a GTT they can't just not give you one. The test doesn't have to be done at 28 weeks. GD is more likely to develop in the third trimester so can be done after this date. Not diagnosing GD can have big implications for you and your baby so I personally would be pushing for a new appointment date.

So, I have thought of a nice big gift: a set of garden furniture. We are not going anywhere this summer, so I was thinking a nice set of furniture so we can actually enjoy our garden. I know my DH would like this, as he has been talking about making the garden look pretty and getting a nice set.

I made a whatsapp group and texted his friends that I was hoping to get a nice set and would they all like to contribute to it? It is fairly normal in his groep to buy a big gift together, so nothing out of the ordinary there.

Now I'm getting replies such as 'a playboy and a snickers', 'a bag of marbles' and nonsense like that. Why are they being so childish???

Hello Ladies! GTT test done whoop whoop, now having brunch, wait was not too bad. Had another scan to check growth and fluid, growth normal but fluid a bit more than normal so keeping fx that GTT comes back all ok.

Hi fatty I feel your pain, I hate when people are making a joke when one is trying to be focused. Can you not ignore them and buy the gift you want, as plan B should they not?

I cannot afford the furniture on my own.

I just hope they are being 'funny' at the moment and will see sense soon. I don't think they realize that a pregnant lady is influenced by raging hormones a lot and that their jokes aren't funny to me at all, but upsetting.
The latest thing they have suggested is condoms. Condoms, FFS!!! So it doesn't go 'wrong' again. My baby is not something that is wrong!

Nature I was told I needed it between 20 and 27 weeks because of my pcos? My midwife didn't know anything about pregnancy and pcos so refered me to a consultant who told me I needed it? It's booked for the end of April now after me really kicking off at midwife, turns out they've once again lost my 'booking' bloods too! Starting to get rather annoyed at the care around here being seriously sub standard :/

Fatty it's awful when people don't think before they speak, just tell them that nothing has gone wrong and you don't appreciate your baby being spoken about like that. Hopefully that should help xx

Fatty ignore them for now, they obviously are not aware that you are in no mood to engage in their childish jokes.

Don't respond give it a couple of hours or a day and respond with a thanks for all your helpful suggestions anyway... I need time to organise the gift... List the process and timelines for the donations to get to you et al. Get them back on the track you want. xx

loopy, it won't. I know these guys. They get fired up and get more and more annoying. Saying anything now will just inflame the situation. So I'm going to be the grown up and let it all slide for now.

If they haven't come around next week, I'll put something along the lines of 'Thank you for all those wonderful suggestions. It warms my heart to see how much effort you are willing to make to make his 30th birthday something special. I can tell you all care about your friend and are trying to make him feel how much the friendship is worth, by actively working with me, his wife, to sort out a gift he will truly appreciate. I sure he will be very happy with with a playboy and condoms, as the implications of his unborn child being unwanted and his wife being unattractive will sit really well with him.'

fatty If I were you I would even add - is that a playboy costume for me, can't wait to try it on and the condoms will be most useful with me in the playboy costume ;-) and a whip please to whip you all for the helpful suggestions!

I agree with your approach, I am familiar with guys like that, they would not stop, so best to either ignore or throw one back at them as well.

Found you. I was twiddling my thumbs on the other thread as couldn't follow broody's link.

must the recommendation is an early GTT for PCOS but it would have needed to have been repeated after 28 weeks anyway (fellow PCOS sufferer here). I had it done about 22 weeks last pg but again at 28 weeks as it is more likely to develop third tri so just because you get a clear test early on doesn't mean you won't develop it. I'm only having a late one this time as I didn't develop it last time but mine is booked for 28.5 weeks so you will be fine. Hopefully it will all be clear anyway Glad they have booked you in. My first MW didn't know much about PCOS last time but I requested the GTT because I was aware of the increased risk. I also saw my endocrinologist last week who checked I was booked in for one so there definitely is an increased risk associated with PCOS do worth having the test.

Brill thank you :) must admit pcos is not a widely known about thing around here, fingers crossed for everyone to have good results!

jo and penny, how were your empty tummies today? Can't believe you had to sit near a bacon sandwich selling shop, penny - doubly cruel!! I got a right battle axe of a nurse and she got some of my preggo rage

loopy, you're not having a wonderful example of care are you?! Crazy how they can make such a lot of cock ups. I'd be furious. I've had my gtt today at bang on 26 weeks because that's when I was told is the standard time to test but I guess every trust does things differently, just to make things more annoying!

Welcome back zampa!

Broody this is baby no 3 for us and we're having all the exact same problems, tests going missing, tests not being booked properly, scans being booked a month too early etc (long story short I was booked in as 15 w preg, found out at scan I was 7 weeks, they rang me saying I needed to attend an urgent scan the week after so we went, and basically got told I was a month early and they had mis booked and shouldn't have worried us over phone etc) still trying to get midwife to acknowledge depression etc. it's really getting me down and I just have no idea what else i can do about it.

my GTT is Wednesday so I will be Bob on 26 week's then aswell. I keep telling them I am just fat though

loopy, do you think it might be worth contacting the director of midwives at your local hospital trust? It seems as though they don't have a blinkin clue! Not acknowledging depression, losing bloods and not booking in appts for the correct time is surely close to negligence?!

I've tried going through PALs but it all gets put down to clerical errors, regarding depression I've been told because it isn't due to pregnancy midwife has no obligation to act and I should seek advice from Dr, but drs are telling me because I am pregnant it's midwife's job 'to sort' so just keep getting passed back and forth and nothing is getting better. Think I may get my mil to have a try at wording it all out professionally so it comes across better

Hi Broody tummy was fine actually, the glucose drink must have helped in sustaining the hunger pangs, but I could not wait once it was over to get my teeth into a nice chicken escalope ciabatta and soya latte to wash it down .

Now back home and having difficulties logging on to work arghhh!

All the best to those having GTT done tomorrow, not as bad as I thought it would be, in fact I was unable to watch madmen and dozed off half the time 3rd tri fatigue has definitely kicked in for me.

Must is your depression chronic and on going? Or do you feel it is a new episode caused by the pregnancy? Or do you not have any at the moment and you just have a history of it? Because all of those things would affect who is responsible for your referral for treatment if you needed it. (you don't need to answer those questions here).

If you have depression previously and it is ongoing and you are already being managed by a doctor then they should cary on. The hospital should review you too, you may need more frequent visits just to see how you are doing/check any medication you are having is appropriate etc. I would ask your midwife/hospital what facilities they have for women with depression, i.e. do they have a specialist team. Midwives and Obstetricians are there to support you and see you through pregnancy but their specialist knowledge is not depression, it is pregnancy, but they have knowledge to support you for depression or pregnancy induced/postnatal depression, under the guidance of a psychiatrist or whoever gets involved with the pregnant women at your hospital.

If it is just a history of depression then it depends on the trust what they do, usually it is watch and wait, jump in if it develops and make sure the community mw, gp and hv are all aware when you are discharged.

If you are actively feeling depressed though you will need more support potentially so they can't shrug it off as just the GP's problem, that is awful. It doesn't matter what caused it. If you feel you need more support ask questions and write to the Director of Midwifery, it isn't a bad idea. Make it factual and not emotional.

How can the lose all your notes and tests and stuff?

Loopy my gtt is around 29w. (Pcos) which was closest i could get to 28w.
Receptionst (new) was awful. Im sure i heard her saying gluten intolerance test ?? At one point.
And couldnt seem to understand it needed to be around 9am then 2hrs later - so i was there at least 20min, with my toddler trying to get it right. She just kept saying ive got 9am and a 2pm then 11am and 1pm and i was like but i wontbe able to eat till then!!
i could have done with a letter from mw with details of what weeks and times were needed.
I have also booked my WC vax for same appts so hope that wont cause an issue.
I dont usually eat breakfast till 9:30-10:30 due to thyroid meds so its not like i'll be starving.
I may need to have a go with my home glucose test as i do feel very sugar cravy (just ate 3 magnums in 20min). Ironically the worry of having a huge baby/another difficult birth is i think driving me to sugar. (Though dd was only 7lb 10 - 60th centile, i think its because dsis just had a 9lb baby)
And anti-d injection next week hopefully, provided they ordered it (not holding my breath as im pretty sure i had to order last time as mw only visits this gp surgery)

naty, such madness! I would have thrown a hissy fit for sure!

I'm never complaining about my docs again - can't believe you too are suffering at the incompetent hands of your GP surgery too, naty! That is just absurd to suggest you don't eat until 1pm! It was bad enough waiting until 11 for me today. I didn't feel hungry but I have had a headache all day and just generally bleurgh. Reckon it's baby throwing a hissy fit over such a late breakfast