Due May 07 - Thread for w/c 16/10/06

[twelveyeargap]

The other thread was rather unwieldy!

This is a funny thread. About what they don't tell you when you're pregnant. Made me laugh.

cooorrrrr. scary. Do you feel better now tyg?

remind me not to get on the wrong side of you.

Quick I think you should find another hiding place for the digestives and toffee's. In a bag at the back of the cleaning cupboard I always find is a good place. Don't know about your dh but mine doesn't go there very often.

PMSL 12YG - nice rant!!

Couldn't face brushing my teeth this morning due to ms. Now my mouth feels all furrry - YUK . Heaved when I brushed them yesterday am and as I was about to do them this morning, just knew it was going to happen again.

Soo glad I'm not the only one with "teething" problems! I sometimes used to gag from brushing my teeth before I was pg, now I'm a hopeless case

tyg-Yes, live in Highgate.Its lovely there isnt it?I sometimes have a drive through and imagine that when I marry my millionaire, (obviously I will have to divorce Mr Scoot), that that is where I will live, preferably in a house with a garden that backs onto Hampstead Heath within easy walking distance of the ladies swimming pond as I like it there in summer.
Now all I have to do is get hold of some rich totty.Difficult currently as I look not only very fat, (not pg, just fat), and also like death warmed up with snot dripping everywhere..Grim.

Im moving to America I tell you.I dont think I would have managed labour with dd without my epidural.I have since found out that sometimes they dont give you one-if they cant find the anesthatist, (look on golf course!), or if someone else with 'real need' needs him.They dont consider childbirth pain 'real need' apparently.It was for me.I felt like I was losing my mind!(Actually it all wore off for the most important end part but by that time I was not quite with it).

So did I juicylucy!And I have never been able to hold anything between my teeth for very long either without gagging.(no smutty jokes please!)
Sadly food has never had that effect though...

Nice idea about the cleaning cupboard... Will find similar hiding place I think.

Ooh, the old real need thing for the epidural. Hmm. I was trying to go au naturel on first baby and eventually a couple of midwives told me that they thoguht if I didn't have an epidural (having been awake for about 28 hours and in labour for 10) they thought I'd be too tired to push if I went on much longer without pain relief. Anyway, I caved in and felt this enormous sense of relief and they went off to find anaesthetist (ooh spelt it right first time). Lo and behold, he (just the one!) was called to an emergency and I had to wait two hours more. I was gutted!

Anyhoo, I know loads more this time round. Like I had a slow labour in my back last time because the baby was lying spine to spine with me. I know not to spend any time lying on my back this time round after about 32 weeks. SHould put baby in the right position this time and I'm hoping for a home birth with a hired pool.

I never intended to go au naturel with dd and I have to admit that if anything im even more nervous about this one.I do admire those that do though!
On the other hand though I did get a bit sick off all the Mums in my antenatal group banging on about how they'd heroically managed with no pain relief even though it nearly killed them.One of them actually said to me how 'sorry' she was for me having had an epidural!
I wasnt sorry for myself in the slightest.I was begging the man to do it!Id been in labour for 2 days and hadnt got to eat any of my Christmas dinner!
As long as the baby arrives all right in the end who really cares how it gets here?Or am I being naive?

Fortunately for me there werent many emergencies when I wanted my epidural.It was Christmas day night so the staff were all begging for something to do.When is Easter this year?Hopefully its around ny EDD as I dont want any RTA's or drunken fight victims interrupting my pain relief and religious holidays seem to be good for avoiding them!(Joke)

Oh Scootermum, speaking of Highgate. I'm seeing a place tonight but NOT the one that Foxtons has the CHEEK to send me details of yesterday in an email saying "I think this is perfect for you". It was a one bed flat, with a study they were going to put a bed in for my daughter. It was 350sq ft and they wanted, wait for it... £495 a WEEK! More than we're paying for a 1200 sq ft flat about a mile away. Was not impressed. Send a very snotty reply about a 400% mark up on a short let being far too high.

laughs Easter is in March this year!

I agree about the die hards. I'd like to not have much medical intervention but how dare people try to judge you for what you do. Suffering is not glamourous so why should you if you don't need to.

After 2 days in labour I would have been begging for a section, never mind an epidural!

Christmas is a tough time to be in Labour. I did at least manage to get my Christmas dinner in, well sort of, there wasn't much room for it by then.

Scootermum, was she born Christmas day in the end or Boxing Day. Interested to know how you work, Christmas versus Birthday.

I went in to Labour with ds at 6am boxing day. He was eventually born at 10.45 am on the 27th.

Have had friends who've gone both ways - epidural and no intervention.

Why are women so virtuous about no intervention. I understand it's all really painful, but surely it's a choice - so why the big ego??

Know this could be contentious, but sometimes think there's lots of pressure to go "au naturel"

It should be however you want it I think and no one should bang on about what they did I dont think.There is no easy way to have a baby is there really?Thats the thing..And also those that often say they will do it all with no pain relief before it end up having the lot in the end and vice versa.You just can never tell how you will feel really can you?

£495 a week?Good God.I mean really..
We used to pay a grand a month to live in a very small one bedroom flat in Islington and I thought even that was absurd!(We didnt stay there long though and moved to Hornsey-not as plush but v. near to Crouch End without having to pay the prices and actually we were very happy there before we moved to the sticks).Im sure ive heard of there being webistes for people who only want short term lets-have you had a google?
Ive always considered Foxtons to be slightly from the dark side anyway, just because of the swanky offices and all the minis(completly unjustfied and unfounded- im just jealous of all the atractive young sales people and their nice little cars)

March you say.Bugger.

She was born Boxing day at 6.36 pm in the end.But I went into labour on Christmas Eve lunch time.I tried to eat a bit of turkey on Christmas day through my contractions and with TENS machine strapped firmly on but didnt get much down.Also dropped a glass in our new porcelain kitchen sink mid contraction and smashed it.(The sink.Annoyingly the glass remained intact)DH couldnt really tell me off though which was the one blessing of the situation..
O I just cant wait to do it all over again.not.I hated labour.

Moomin-not sure how the birthday thing will go-its only her first this year coming.I also have to figure in work somewhere along the line as I have to at least be on call and I should go in really even if just for a token few hours..

I think we will have a little party on Boxing day and have really unchristmassy food so its really seperate-like Fajitas or something.Or a BBQ where we will all be outside in Ear Muffs and coats.Not that she will really get it this year-but maybe when she is a bit older..
Or else she will have to have two birthdays a proper one and one in Summer, like the queen.

just WOKE UP after an hour on the sofa, and found the front room looks like the andrex puppy has beem to visit , or is it a mumsnet tuesday coffee morning lol? no, its DS [potty training] and silly Mum dozed off xx

I don't think women who don't use pain relief need some special prize or anything (I did ask for one, but got nothing [grin[) I went in with the intentions of getting an epidural, but by the time I though I needed one it was too late. I went from 4-10 cm in 40 minutes so everything happened very fast. I guess because pain relief is so common it feels good to say that that you didn't use any. I don't think I would get one now because my sil had hers but because she was pushing for 13 hours they took it out, when they moved her for a c-section they put it back in, but it was misplaced and she felt the incision on half her body. Another friend had hers put in incorrectly, and ended up in the emergency room, because she was leaking spinal fluid. They had their babies in the same week so I'm a little put off at the whole idea.

Hornsey/ Crouch End. Very nice. Had a lovely meal in Crouch End on Saturday. Moving to Muswell Hill in Jan. Really looking forward to having my maternity leave there. My friend was saying it's very villagey and there are loads of "mums who lunch" pushing prams around all the time. Sounds perfect! Hehehe. It must be very isolating in some places if there aren't many other mums around and you've worked full time and don't know anyone.

I like the sound of the Christmas bbq! Fun.

And chortling big time at the trying to eat Turkey whilst strapped to TENS machine. That's dedication to your dinner.

scooter, I know what you mean by people not having things go as planned. In my hypnobirthing class I was the only one that was more than willing to have painrelievers. The other four moms were against it saying they wanted everything natural (all that hippie stuff). In the end they all ended up with C-sections and I had a fine vaginal birth. When I was in labor the midwife wanted to talk about my plan. I told her that I didn't have a plan. She said that's the best plan. That way there is no way to be dissappointed.

Jess,

Your son is such a cutie.

No, I wouldn't expect any prizes. I only went off the idea of epidural because I hated being incapacitated for so long. And I had gas and air but it did nothing apart from make me feel sick and woozy but didn't actually distract me from the pain. I don't think I 'came out' of the laughing gas haze for hours. Am I weird or did that happen to anyone else?

The smell of it! Urgh. Or maybe it was the smell of the mask, but I thought it smelled like melting sugar or something.

Anyways, if I have this baby at home I'll have pethidine available and not much else so we'll see how that goes.

And to answer the US ladies about hospitals. I was on a public ward (albeit 11 years ago) and there were 8 of us. Luckily all the breast feeding mums got put together and got special attention and lots of encouragement from the nursing staff. I had to move to another ward on the last day (they keep you for 3 days in Ireland) and it was HUGE. About 12 women...

I was lucky too, because the labour rooms were private, but not long beforehand, I heard that women in the National Maternity Hospital of Ireland laboured and gave birth with just a curtain between them and the next person. EEEEK!

Things have moved on though I think!

AT least going eau natrel [no epi] you get to go home 3hrs after the birth, thats why i wouldnt have another one, the 2 ive had before didnt work properly any way lol,and as soon as the baby is born you stop hurting anyway xx

We are a funny bunch only just pg and already deciding if we want epi or not, im just gonna wait and see you never know might end up needing an emergency c- cection yet [god i really hope not unless they can combine it with a tummy tuck pmsl],but i guess thats what pg does for you...I KNOW what names are you all considering for the bubs???

laughing Yes, already decided what kind of birth I want but haven't even CONSIDERED names. Well, actually, I did tell my husband we could name a boy after his Uncle Sam, which he thought was nice but isn't actually that keen on the name.

No doubt there will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth over the decision when I finally get around to it.

Anyone on here got any ideas yet?

Mummy, we don't go home right after the birth. Most hospital policies are 2 days after all vaginal births, and 4 days after C-section. We can ask to go home early, but the policy is two days after you give birth. Typically they have to have a peidatrician sign off on the baby going home before leaving the hospital. Before we leave they like to make sure that the lactation sees you once, the pediatrician comes, all the paperwork for birth certificate is done, nurses won't let you leave until you have the first "poo", and at my hospital we had to watch a few caring for newborn videos. At some hospitals the check the car seat ( a lot won't let you leave unless the car seat is properly installed)

Hospitals (at least mine) won't let you go unless they know you are prepared, and both mom and baby are perfectly healthy.

Hi, quite a few ideas for names but not sharing until after the scan tomorrow. DP and I don't actually agree on many though and the DDs also want input.

Really want to give birth at midwife led unit as I did with DD2 with just gas and air but don't really have a plan. Midwife said at booking in appointment if the baby gets big (I am already size 18/20) then it may have to be the bigger hospital so I am open to change (rather not have a c/section though but if needs must I wouldn't say no!).

Really really scared now about the outcome of the scan.

Jess - really cute DS

Will post results tomorrow

I love Muswell Hill.It really is like a little village.And there is a Giraffe there which is a wi
cked place to eat out with Kiddies.
I sometimes wish we still lived in London rather than literally in the middle of nowhere.But then I do like the quiet and I like hiking so at least I can walk for miles in lovely country straight from my door.And I suppose still working in London I get the best of both..I can still be in Topshop Oxford circus at an hours notice..They do baby clothes now!

We moved only a month before dd was born last year and its been the easiest way to make friends.I joined the NCT (which you will gather from my epidural fondness isnt quite at one with my views on childbirth ALL the time-but a great organisation neverthless), and met some lovely people..Im sure you will be the same.There are lots of yummy mummys in Muswell Hill..

I m a very determined eater with re the christmas lunch.But even I failed at that one!

Well hope all have a lovely weekend, I dont have access at home as DH has still not sorted it out grrr.
I have a busy one coming up,friends coming, christening to go to.All I really want is a long sleep, but hey ho..