Are your children’s vaccines up to date?

Set a reminder

Please or to access all these features

Birth clubs

Connect with mums-to-be with similar due dates to share experiences and support.

Due May 07 - Thread for w/c 16/10/06

233 replies

twelveyeargap · 16/10/2006 11:18

The other thread was rather unwieldy!

OP posts:
Are your children’s vaccines up to date?
MKG · 18/10/2006 18:45

Hey guys,

Just got back from the doctor. Everything went fine typical meet and greet fill in a lot of paperwork stuff. Then as I'm leaving the doctor casually mentions that I need to go have another ultrasound in 2 weeks because they noticed a spot behind the placenta. She thinks it is nothing but it could be a sub choronic hemmorage. I don't know what that is, but I'm not going to worry until someone tells me to. She thinks that since the first one was done early that it is probably the palcenta making connections. I don't know. If anyone else has heard of this let me know.

jessinwa · 18/10/2006 19:00

i have taken my mn addiction to a whole new level. i was poking around the other topics and decided to post a photo of munch in the member profiles.
here he is! his hair is all crazy here because he had just eaten a pear and had it all over his hair. he is my crazy little man.
moomimin, i love france. i love french food, french people, french music, i love it all. my dh is over there. he is just outside paris in a town that sounds like krulls, or something like that. he doesn't have the same feelings about france that i do. i guess all he knows of france is work and boring stuff while i think of museums and yummy food.
hope everyone is feeling well. i am twelve weeks today! yippee! that means tomorrow is the start of my seconf trimester. it feels like we are making some progress.

jessinwa · 18/10/2006 19:18

mkg, i just did a search, as i am sure you did as well, and all of the info seems to suggest that it is a fairly common thing and that it really poses no threat to the baby.
this is a good site to hopefully make you feel a bit better. and another .
i read on a couple other pages that if you think you have a subchorionic hemorrhage that you should avoid sex and take it easy.
i am sending you 'try not to worry' vibes. put your feet up and have some cheesecake.

MKG · 18/10/2006 19:38

thanks jessinwa--I do feel better.

I wasn't too worried because my doctor mentioned it in passing and just told me not to have sex (which is really not an issue for us, since dh works like a maniac). If it was serious I think she would have pulled me into a room to talk about things. Since she said it so lots of people could hear I didn't think too much about it. Just the typical "what if" thoughts. I haven't had any bleeding or anything and she said it may be nothing. The whole taking it easy thing is pretty simple considering I'm too tired to do anything. Up until a month ago I was working out an hour a day. Now I have no energy and if I do exercise, the next day I am completely worthless to anyone. I have my next ultrasound for Nov. 3. I'm happy because now I can get another look at our bean. I worry about bleeding because I'm rh negative and everytime I have a bleed (if I have any) I have to go right away and get a rhogam shot. It's more of a pain in the ass than anything else.

MKG · 18/10/2006 19:44

Here's a questions for the Ukers out there. What is gas and air? I read it on other threads, but have no clue what it is.

Also how are you're maternity wards set up? Here most hospitals have private rooms (unless there is a freak rush of women having babies) and are LDRP (Labor, Delivery, Recovery, and Post partum) rooms. We have one room where everything happens and partners have a place to sleep. I read about other people being afraid to wake up others, or could hear others. When I was in the hospital I felt like I was the only one on floor because I neither heard nor saw anyone. I actually went looking for other people and all I saw were nurses even though when I asked they said there were 10 other women on the floor.

jessinwa · 18/10/2006 19:58

mkg, i think i have a vague idea of what gas and air is, but i will let the ukers do the explaining just to be sure.
my hospital experience was very similar to yours. i would have never known it was a very busy day had i not been told. i didn't hear or see another mama the entire time i was there. it was a little strange, actually. i did enjoy having my own room with a fab view of the city and dvd player, etc. it was nicer than most hotels i have been in. i am a bit worried that my experience in australia will be less desirable.

moomimin · 18/10/2006 20:05

MKG this is the NHS we are talking about, no insurance there so unless you want to go private and pay for the lot you go with the NHS. They are not really that bad, but paper thin walls and very busy over run units, usually understaffed are the norm. It sounds third world, of course it's not but they just can't seem to get on top of it. Waiting lists are long, home births if you are lucky enough to get a midwife available to attend. Hence most places only doing 1 scan 2 if you are very lucky. The after care is very good though. Compared to France where we get NO ONE to see us after. Just get on with it.

Ummm listen to me and I don't even live there anymore, shutting up now, sorry

Gas and air is called ENTINOX in France also commonly know as laughing gas. It's a pain relief, i'm sure you have it , probably called something else. Sorry can't remember the chemical make up of it.

very cute munch though if I'm alloud to say that jessinwa, I actually like the hair, invest in some was. lol

moomimin · 18/10/2006 20:09

Oh and forgot. Private rooms are very far and few between, obviously the delivery suite is private, but once you go on to a ward with baby, there will probably 5 other new babies and mummies all in the same room.

moomimin · 18/10/2006 20:11

sorry, sorry me again!

that was supposed to be wax jessinwa,

MKG · 18/10/2006 20:16

No wonder y'all have so many homebirths. If I had to share a room with 5 others I would too. Here we don't have private and public hospitals We just have one and they take private insurance and people with medicaid/medicare (government sponsored for low income) I've never heard of anyone getting gas and air. Actually I don't think that it is an option, but I will check that. Most people just go the epidural route. I'll be right back.

jessinwa · 18/10/2006 20:18

hehe. i was thinking "what does invest in some was" mean? i thought maybe it was a uk word or something.

MKG · 18/10/2006 20:34

O.K. I couldn't find any links about entonox and labor here. I did find one that talked about a clinical trial that found no difference in the nitrous oxide mix and compressed oxygen. Therefore I am assuming that it is unavailable here.

moomimin · 18/10/2006 20:34

There seems to be a bit of a thing in the uk to do it naturally. personally I can't see why, no pain is a far better option for me. "Apparently" epidurals could cause complications, make labours longer and inhibit you from being able to push correctly. I had an epidural with ds after 21 hrs of trying to do it naturally. It did numb me from the bust down and take about 4 hrs to wear off though.

Over here it is also very common to go straight for a peridural, the French don't do pain and are very old fashioned in their birthing techniques. I had a peridural with dd in the end and it was abosoulutly fab, only lasted for 20 mins and as they were too late with it, and it didn't start working untill after she was born it was great for my stitches. lol

MKG · 18/10/2006 20:42

Oh yeah dentists use it. I did see a link that said that since it does not require an anestisiologist (I don't care how it's spelled) so that may be why not. They like to make sure that all drugs are monitored and given by a professional.

MKG · 18/10/2006 20:50

You know this is why I didn't have any pain relief with ds and don't ever plan on it. Epidurals suck (I know two people that have had serious complications). this is my theory about child birth:

I am the star of the show. When I let someone inject me with something, I'm not the star anymore. Then the doctor and the drug giver person (I hate spelling the real word) become the stars. No, I did not just carry a baby around for 9 months for someone else to come and tell me what to do.

moomimin · 18/10/2006 21:36

hee hee I like your theory mkg

I would love to do it on my own, but I am such a wussssssssss! Maybe I'll give it ago with this one, nearer the time we'll have to come up with some tips for taking our mind off that pain. Only had about 15minutes to go with dd in the end, so now looking back on it I should have kept going. See such a wusssss!

JonahB · 18/10/2006 21:42

Jess, what a cute photo!!! He?s a sweetie!!!! I?m still drinking fully caffeinated coffee. Only 2 cups a day. I did the same in my last pgy. I just can?t get through the day without it. I work long hours and it an unfortunate side affect. For eg, tomorrow, I am driving 2 colleagues for a 2 hour drive south to see one customer, then 2 hours back up north to see another, then another 1½ home. Then I?m out on a leaving do tomorrow night. Not a chance of doing that without caffeine. I won?t allow myself to feel bad about it, there?s a lot worse I could be doing, it?s not great, its just the realities of life and being a working, pgt mother

Gas and air = heaven in a tube. It just helps with the pain in a non-invasive manner. The majority of women in the UK (using pain relief) start with gas and air, even if they end up moving on to an epidural. You can get gas and air for home births as well, they just wheel in a couple of canisters to your home. Only a foolish midwife will try and prise a gas and air tube out of the vice-like grip of a woman in labour. I wanted to cry when they told me I had to put it down in order to push

The other common pain relief here is pethadine/meptid. These take the form of an injection into your thigh. I had about 3 shots during my labour. The upside is that you?re fully conscious and in control and it really helps with the pain. The downside is that it can make you feel nauseous (it didn?t for me) and it can mean the baby sleeps a little longer after birth (no bad thing in my book).

MKG, when I had DS, there were only 2 beds to a room. It was a lovely, clean, modern unit, really not that umpleasant. I'm lucky though. The other hospital near me is famed for women's mothers walking in and commenting how it hasn't changed since their day!!!

jessinwa · 19/10/2006 03:50

i am so excited! my appointment with my doctor went really well. she had the report from my ultrasound that i had last week. as a result of that report and the ultrasound that i had at eight weeks she decided to move my due date up six days! that means i am due april 26th instead of may 2nd. tomorrow i am thirteen weeks! i feel like this is pregnancy karma. i had a 42 weeks pregnancy last time. this is payback for that. i feel like i got a bonus week. but to be honest, i had a feeling my dates were kind of funny. we didn't have sex on days ten to fourteen because we were actually trying not to get pregnant. we must have conceived on day nine. yippee!
i am not going to change over to the april thread. that would be stupid. the whole point is to get to know a group of gals due about the same time as you, right? six days doesn't matter. plus, i like you all.

moomimin · 19/10/2006 08:29

Thats great news jessinwa. I'm soooo glad you're staying on the May thread though. It was the first thing I thought when I read the 26th April.

I have some exciting news too. Found a heartbeat last night on my doppler. dh was stunned too, but having used it for ds & dd there is no mistaking that horse hoof beat when you find it. Didn't expect to hear anything yet, but thought it was worth a shot. Just got to try not to get addicted to it now. Must keep it in reality too, still have 2&half weeks til 12 week scan, don't like to get too excited until i have had that.

Hope you are all feeling good today.

twelveyeargap · 19/10/2006 09:53

Morning All. I can barely speak (write). Just had two Oatibix with hot milk, a slice of toast and banana for breakfast. Oh my God, I am going to burst. Wait now til I deflate a bit and my brain might kick back in.

rolls out of chair

OP posts:
cacaboo · 19/10/2006 10:55

12yrgap you make me chuckle! Cos I did something similar! Porridge and oat crunchies for breakfast with DS, then got to work, sat down and ate a cheese sarnie, crips and a pain au chocolat! Yummy, but I'm fit to burst too! But itmeans I can do (some) work instead of thinking about how hungry I am all morning....

mummymelling · 19/10/2006 11:21

Morning ladies, ive just discovered that my nausea is back, its always worse when im tired or hungery, and im always tired at the moment it just dosent seem to be getting any better, is anyone else like this or is it just old age lol xx

twelveyeargap · 19/10/2006 11:48

Oh, do you know what I noticed? And this is sooo unfair... My nausea comes when I wake up for a bit and I gag when I brush my teeth but then it goes. THEN it only makes an appearance after I've been stuffing my face with sugary or greasy foods. I ate about 5 thorntons choccies before I left work last ngiht (so the preggy police wouldn't catch me) and by the time I got to Sainsbury's to pick up the dinner I was feeling horrid and every food item I looked at made me feel sick.

I'm so disappointed. I also hope Mr TYG isn't reading this. (He knows my screenname and I BET he's reading my posts. Bugger off! )

Anyway, if he's reading this then he'll no doubt try to make me throw out all the caramel digestives and brazil nut toffees that I have squirrelled away in the kitchen.

AND I have the sodding pregnancy police sitting next to me. The guy has three kids and once he knew I was pregnant he was demanding to know if I'd taken my Pregnacare tablets and chastising me for eating Rich Tea biscuits at 10 in the morning. "Won't do you any good you know. You want to be eating healthy food now." And when I had a kiwi yesterday, he said, "You should be eating more of those."

FCCCKKKKK OOOFFFFFFF.

Phew! That was quite a rant wasn't it?

OP posts:
twelveyeargap · 19/10/2006 11:51

Oh and I made the greasy food/ nausea connection the other day when I had my beloved mcdonald's as well. Boo hoo.

OP posts:
twelveyeargap · 19/10/2006 11:53

Jessinwa - you're little boy is so lovely. You have every right to be a proud mummy!

OP posts: