October 2014 // thread 15 // hooray, here come the babies!

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Going through these fast at the minute!

ECV failed and was fucking agony (sorry). Vaginal breech delivery vs caesarean section?! So gutted.

Sorry to hear that robin.

Congratulations pink fizz. its been really good to hear all the birth stories so far and condolences to those ladies who ate now past edd- hope your babies come soon.

Badger I have imaginary arguments with mil (she's not here) in response/ working through various reactions to her lovely comments. If anyone has tips in dealing with mil gender disappointment that is still continuing with snide comments please do tell me. If it were more direct would be easier to deal with

Feel for you Hefner with pil dictating when they visit. Mine decided their visit during paternity leave was to spend time with Dh as they don't see him enough not to see baby that comes after dh and sight seeing! Hope you can work the situation out to suit you

Oh Robin, so sorry but at least your baby will be in your arms soon.
Try get some rest tonight xx

Robindeer I'm so sorry . You must be gutted.

Sorry to hear that robin

Oh pusscous I hate the snide comments, it makes it so much harder to challenge. I think I'd counter any comments with a really positive response saying how excited you are about having a girl. It'd be more satisfying to call her out on it but then she might be able to act all hurt and pretend that you're the one being nasty. How does your DH handle her?

Just disappointed really. As long as the baby is okay it doesn't matter, but this is our first so there are longer consequences. Poo. Really do have to get a wriggle on now though, haven't got that much ready for the baby!

Robin sorry to hear that.
Don't get my started on MiLs. Mine is driving me mad, no wonder my bp was borderline yesterday.

Lovely glass of red, prosciutto and asparagus, pizza... couldn't find any blue cheese, but dinner ace anyway. Gardeners World on telly. Perfect evening!

Sorry to hear that, Robin. We've had some good stories about vbacs on here - easy for me to say don't worry about the future, I know, but if you can focus on just getting through this birth you'll do well.

*Pusscous", grumpy badger that I am, I'd totally advocate calling MIL on any snidery. Life is too short for that. Go blunt on it and if it kicks off you can always blame pregnancy hormones!

Robin my wee DD went breech when my waters went last week - as she was an unstable lie and my waters had gone the only option I realistically had was a CS. Which was exactly what I didn't want. I can honestly recommend it. It was a more moving and calm experience than my vaginal delivery of my firstborn. And the recovery so far has been kinder than stitches in my nether regions! So don't be put off if you end up having a section. Also VBACs are very common these days so hopefully you'll get your natural birth next time if you have to have a CS now.

I'd totally go blunt if someone moaned about gender. How absurd.

Och robin sorry to hear things havnt went to plan but i second yellow about my csec being positive for me aswell, my first dd was breech and now my second is aswell ..so booked in for another c/sec!! Well done on trying ecv... I googled it the other day and what i seen didnt appeal to me at all # ouch - did your wee one turn back around ? Or would they not budge at all?

Lovely friday night goats

Is anybody's boobs changing yet? Mines are normal ... Was just wondering if they should start getting tender/leaking or something like in first trimester, cant remember if they changed by this point last time ?

Schrödenberg is going apeshit with the Alien squiggling in Mrsthedog's tummy. First time we've seen any if that john hurt nonsense. Interesting to see, unfortunately I believe also some Fanny daggering going on.

Stigz I'm not leaking yet but didn't leak last time either. Once my milk came thru that's a different story remembers milk fountain while trying on bras in mothercare
I'm not sure if I'm having contractions.... You wouldn't think I had done this before ! Anyone want to describe contractions for me? Bumps going tense, feeling pressure/pain down below and they are taking my breath. Lasting around 45secs getting them every few mins. Sometimes I have a gap, sometimes as one finishes the next starts.
Not sure whether to try and sleep or get bouncing on ball.

Stigz second time my boobs didn't change at all in pregnancy and it was muuuuuch easier when my milk came in. I only had sore and engorged boobs for 12 hours this time, last time it was 2 days!

My boobs haven't changed at all apart from slightly bigger nipples. That happened early on, no change since.

Ooh sweet all sounds very exciting. This is DD1 so I have absolutely no idea if that sounds like 'it' but am convincing myself that every twinge is a sign so find your more regular tightening all very exciting.

Loved catching up on this thread through another sleepless night. Have requested a sweep on my EDD (loving thinking of it as a fingering) but I know it probably won't work.

All of your overdue mamas have my utmost respect. I feel physically OK & I'm only 38+3 but feel like I've been pregnant for YEARS. I'm so ready to meet our little lady. OH won't DTD - like yours Kristie, he just keeps saying he won't do anything to rush her out. Assures me it's nothing else - all the while eyeing my bulging tummy, colostrum leaking boobs and frequently tear stained face . Can't blame him really...but I do.

Could be promising sweetpea, hope you're getting some rest!

Bah. After today's marathon cook off I lay down on the bed after putting DD down and hey ho, am wide awake now. Have gone through my natal hypnotherapy download and some milk and bread, just waiting to feel sleepy again... Think I'll download 'Coping with two' as it would probably be a good idea to get the first couple of chapters read BEFORE baby comes, not after like last time!

Wind's blowing a gale outside, which isn't helping.

Sorry robin to hear that your labour plans have to change- it's not an easy thing to accept, but a least you know with a elcs as others have said that it will be calm and there are no gurantees that labour would have worked out that way.

Goats like your evening plans. We're watching gardeners world tonight- love the weekly Nigel and monty. Dinner is chicken in a french mustard sauce with lots of garlicky mash and maybe some of Dh beer.

Sweet that sounds promising- hope you manage to get some rest overnight in case it is.

Thank you for indulging me in pil. I promise no more (after this) it doesn't help the oxytocin flow! And will probably singe about them enough post birth. Luckily Dh is very supportive and stands out ground, he realises how manipulative she can be but a lot is done only in my presence. As long as I don't start/ deliberately be nasty, then Dh is very supportive of my reactions if even she gets upset. Was a bit of a retoracle question- tend to ignore minor stuff but stamp firmly on anything else as have learnt the hard way not to give any ground. Blunt is the way I will be going, just wish I had dealt with some things when we last saw her so it's not playing on my mind until their visit

Thanks for the positive cs stories, they really do help. Can't sleep tonight so am downstairs on sofa as I know dp is knackered too and don't want to wake him. Don't know why but I'm fixating on the fact that there will be a few days when he can't stay with me and the baby in hospital instead of thinking of the next year or two when we'll be awake at this time thinking 'what the hell have we done?!' Also very cross on sweet's behalf having such an insensitive link sent to her. William is the name we'd use for a boy so perhaps it's made me irrationally cross. Does anyone else ever get a bit sick of their own thought processes?!

With regard to boobs, mine have been leaking colostrum for a good couple of months now. Only at night but quite a lot sometimes. Seems like a waste!

Not posted at stupid o'clock before but like Robin, I'm on sofa. Feel sick & know my discomfort was waking dp. However, you're right, this provides the problem if additional thinking time. As if my mind isn't on overdrive anyways! I think, as I've said before, I need to stop looking at the news. Reading about Alan Hemmings senseless death just makes me question why I'd want to bring a baby into this world & an overwhelming sense of a lifelong commitment to keep baby safe. Bit heavy for 5am!

I was awake 2-4.30am. Nearly set the tosster on fire making a crumpet. It's very upsetting about poor alan's death -those people are pure evil monsters.

Right, I need to sort my head out regards my feelings on induction. At my last appointment I was told they'd do a sweep on Tuesday - at which point I'd be 40+5 according to their most recent notes. They've got this wrong and I'll be 41+2 officially, but that gives me a few days in the bank so I didn't correct the notes. They will apparently also book an induction at that appointment.

Now, in my opinion this baby isn't ready for anything. Bump is high, only 1/5 engaged, loads of hiccups so obviously still developing its lungs. I'm fed up of being pregnant but fine to wait.

In theory I don't mind them taking a look on Tuesday, but expect they'll find a closed, high cervix uunfavourable for a sweep. Having said that, I don't trust the obstetrician not to have a go anyway - so preferably would avoid the whole ve thing completely.

What are my options? Can I say yes to part of the induction process - so just the pessary but not the drip? And if that doesn't work, straight to c-section? I've heard nothing good about my hospital's induction record - everyone I know has gone 50 hours+ and ended up with instrumental messes in theatre or c-sections. I'd rather choose the things I'm scared of in advance and then not be totally knackered and traumatised before being sent away with a new baby.

If they get really shitty about it I'd be willing to pay to go private to get what I want.