Summer holidays are over, the PESH are bringing their bumps and baybees back to school

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Pack your giant pants in your satchel and maternity pads in your pencil case, it's the antenatal thread for BESH graduates

CRESH

Faith - pinky faithlet arrived 14th April 2013
Pinkr - suitably pinky one arrived 25th August 2013
Jethro - blue one arrived 23rd September 2013
Noks - pink one arrived 12th January 2014
Frankel - large pink one arrived 10th March 2014
Merks - pink one landed safe and sound 21st March 2014
Sinky - Stubborn blue one arrived 26th March 2014
Driz - blue one arrived 12th June 2014
Kat - pink one arrived 21st June 2014
draf - pink calf on 1st July 2014
winks - a pink one dragged out kicking and screaming on 4th July 2014
euro - a pink one in a hurry to see the world, born on 17th July 2014
dor - a pink one born at speed on 28th July 2014
ginge - completing the ESH Summer of Pink on 23rd August 2014

PESH
Buggerlugs - Buglet due 20th October
Fankle - ESHlet expected 4th January
Cunty - Minichops expected 7th February

bugs I can manage to go 6 hours without expressing, but that is my limit. Any longer and I am worried that my supply will be affected. As she fed 3 hourly for ages, that meant I could skip one feeding /expressing session overnight sometimes. My boobs are like rocks by the end of it though! I started that when she was around her due date I think.

More than six hours can trigger ovulation. As a result of getting a few longer sleeps thanks to husband doing night feed, i am sure i am now ovulating. Cant wait for droid to come :(
and why is it when you are ttc ewcm is nowhere to be found but when you are never ever getting pregnant again there is a ton of it?

Hello PESH & CRESH, just checking in to let those of you who remember me know that I am in the v early stages of updiffedness with what will hopefully be DC2, very happy but obviously menkulling like crazy.

Sorry I don't post much these days but I do lurk from time to time and think of the ESH often so I thought I'd update you!

Oh massive congratulations! So exciting!!

Ah Jupes how wonderful! Congratulations! :)

Well done Jupiter May I be so rude as to ask was it a "butterdish" or planned?

The butterdish is still intact Frankel! Started ttc when L was 18mo and he turns 2 on Sunday. So not a long wait in ESH terms but still an anxious time. We didn't even acknowledge it ourselves for the first couple of months. I think we were hoping if we pretended to be all casual about it it would just happen while secretly doing opks and updating fertility fiend

Droid returned when L was 9mo, cycles still mad - last one was 46 days - but pretty sure I was ov-ing (which was the problem before) as I had ewcm and a few +opks. So I was veering between bouts of confidence and despair. I am now doing the same about the pg, symptoms are good but then I suddenly feel like I'm kidding myself and I can't be that lucky twice.

But you can! Squeeze that's so exciting! Nice age gap too. I'm still trying to persuade MSB that a second baybee would be awesome...

Thank you Faith. I wondered if you would think about another. I know it is not always easy when you have been through a lot the first time - I think I have been lucky that pregnancy seemed to kick start my ovulation again. I am trying to channel Dor and other 2+DC ESH to remind myself that it can happen.

Bugs I am no expert as we had lots of feeding ishoos but at least one feed or pump between 12-6am seemed to keep things going later on when we were mix feeding.

Fankle I can't speak for everyone but I've been quick to blub ever since being pg, long after the hormones dissipated the tearfest continued I'm afraid so be prepared!

I think MSB is fearful of the whole process joops, TTC that pushed us almost to breaking point, me being hard work when diffed, Faithlet being a high needs newborn and me struggling to cope. However I am determined it would be different a second time round - set an 18 month time for TTC, if it doesn't happen, call it a day. Hopefully not be on the ward when diffed. Hopefully not have a low birth weight, refluxy baybee but know what to do so much sooner next time. I know I may be kidding myself with the last part I think he may be warming to the idea. I would love another :)

Fank to answer your query yes I ached massively. If you're struggling talk to your MW. In my area they simply give you the physio phone number and you can book in yourself when diffed.

Yes, I'm worried about GD/birth issues and feeding/weight issues but hoping I am better positioned to deal with them now. I thought I had been through all the eventualities before having L but the reality is totally different. I think I would have a better idea of what to look out for and how to stand my ground Your plan sounds eminently sensible Faif, hope you can persuade MSB

Congrats MissJ, I think you were slightly before my time but your name does ring a bell. faify I hope MSB goes for it. Faithlet is such a cutie, there should be more like her :)

Congrats Jupiter !!!!

I've just had my last scan with the rmc, 12+1 today, all is fine, baby jiggling about loads, in fact too much to get a decent picture!

Discharged from the rmc to the bog standard maternity services, dating scan next week!

Excellent news MissH How are you feeling?

I had my 25 week midwife appointment today. All is well, but the bump is measuring a bit big - does that mean he's more likely to be a whopper? She also reckons I'm a bit anaemic, which would explain why I'm feeling constantly knackered and breathless. Got myself some Spatone so hopefully will start to feel a bit better soon.

How's everyone doing?

Good thanks Cunty ! (for now!)

We're telling people, and letting those that know be excited now so it'll be good to be able to talk about it!

I don't know about measuring big I'm afraid, you could just be a bit bloated!

That's brilliant, MissH.

Cunty, it might just be your bump shape, or plenty of water around the baby. Or it could be a bigun! You've got loads of time to go though and things could change.

Ooof hags, I am knackered! Had to go to London for a couple of days with work and I forgot how hard work it is just getting around. With a case. At rush hour. Bloody inhumane, it was. I don't know how you London ESH coped with it every day...but then you maybe didn't have to lug around a case with you every day. Up and down stairs. On and off tubes. In and out doors. Bloody hell. Fellow passengers so absorbed in their phones and newspapers that they don't look up to see a fairly heavily pregnant woman with a case and a red face. Bless those few gents that did offer me a seat. For some reason I wanted to cry with gratitude when they did. And the walking- so much walking just to make transport connections. I realise I sound like frodo from the shires here, and I only left London 2 years ago, but my oh my will I be glad to get home to my patch of god's own country.

MissH that's lovely news. Am so relieved for you.

Hello Cunty. One word. Whopper!

Can I confess a horrible evil thought I've been having all day? An Instadiffer friend of mine who had her DC1 a year after her wedding confided to me that she'd miscarried in June. We would've been due the same month. They had only started ttc #2 and got diffed straight away. She's now 12 weeks diffed, which is lovely. But I found myself being quite annoyed by her hyper fertility...she must've got diffed 2-3 cycles max after her mc.

I feel bad for thinking like this but it fucking well took me 26 cycles after my mc.

It's perfectly understandable to feel like that. I just find myself marvelling at how different their experience is.

I felt like that for quite a long time Fank. Now we have Faithlet it doesn't really bother me. It surprises me but I'm more grateful than anything.

You're most definitely allowed to feel that way! Especially here where you can say all the stuff you can't anywhere else!

Definitely, I haven't had half the problems that some ESH have but I still have a funny feeling when people get pg within seconds. It's a lot better with L here but I can't deny it still happens.

Thanks ladies.
The mix of gratitude and marvel mixed with the old familiar bitterness is a new emotion for me. I used to just feel empty and envious with each pregnancy announcement. Now there is no emptiness but still a lingering envy at the speed with which it happens for others.

All our experiences are different and we are all the richer for them. I feel like my baby is going to be my hard won gold medal, not simply after 9 months of pregnancy, but after a gruelling 26 month battle. My own marathon of endurance. And that's not counting the 3 months of ttc prior to my 1st pregnancy that ended in mc.

I don't mean to be overly philosophical or negative. I expect these emotions will fade more and more with time.

Fankle - I know what you mean, you almost want to scream out "it was HARDER for me, I deserve it more!!!" Though I think a lot of the time people don't actually tell if they've had difficulties. I'm trying to be open about having had 3 mc's before this point, I feel that I have to get it across how truly shitty it's been the last (almost) couple of years up to this point but people skim over it/don't really hear it!

So Hags, the news is out, everyone knows now and it's a bit fucking weird to say the least! I'm now waiting for the jinx/karma/fate bollocks to pull it all out from under me, everyone else it just happy!

One more thing, please tell me I'm massively over-reacting, I put the announcement on facebook and the FIL added a message saying "Take special care of our little grandblob" , the more I think about it the most mad/upset I am, like I didn't take "special care" of the first 3 ?!?!?!?! I'm also finding it a bit weird that they are taking ownership of a part of me?! Will I get used to this? Am I just being overly sensitive?! I have form for narrowing in on what are throw away comments to other people and agonising over them Definitely on for therapy next week!

How are all the other Hags doing?! Quiet at the minute! I admit to lurking and being too knackered to post, and not having anything much to say!