October 14. thread 11?! Will be see any babies in this thread?

[mrsb87]

Plonk your bums down ladies!

You need salty crisps fedup (if it is low bp.) Mine is naturally low always 90something over 60. Dr told me to have salt if feeling off, something to do with electrolytes, sorry I don't remember the specifics.
Also, heat is not your friend so try to keep cool.

Bupa has some good info www.bupa.co.uk/individuals/health-information/directory/l/low-blood-pressure

Wow, it took me a long time to catch up on all the discussion - sorry I never remember who's said what by the time I reach the end!
Thought baby might have gone head down as I seem to remember kicks under ribs in night but woke to definite transverse action again this morning grrrr. Got a bit worried really as the movements were slightly on the frantic side - anyone else having this? 33+4 today and thought they were supposed to start slowing down soon! Seemed to happen more when laid on side so maybe I was just squashing him?
Someone asked about braxton hicks and I wondered the same - I don't think i've had any yet but sometimes my bump does go pretty tense at times and baby sticks out more clearly (a bit like after sex!). I don't get any pain or really feel anything so i'd assumed it wasn't BH but maybe it is? do other people feel them when they happen?

Clops - I get both the frantic wiggling when I'm lying or sitting in certain positions (I'm guessing it gets stuck/uncomfy), and also the odd sort of hard bump feelings. I'm guessing this is BH but I don't really know - I had one at about 24 weeks that made me stop and have to actually think about breathing, but since then either I've got used to them, or they are less severe. I find I have them loads more on active days.

I've put on about a stone & a half since that start. Hoping I only put on another half a stone now as the number on the scales is not nice!

I am far too lazy for the massage stuff, I should really have done my pelvic floors a lot more than I have, think I might end up paying for that one once this baby comes out, tena lady here I come

8 weeks to go today and DH is getting less and less excited and more and more doom & gloom about having 2 kids . I would just like him to be a teeny bit excited but all he is focusing on is the lack of sleep and stress we'll be under. When I tell him this upsets me he just says "what do you want me to say?". I know I can't force him to be excited, I just wish he could see past the first bit to when we'll have 2 awesome kiddliwinks who we can play with!

More to the point - 2 awesome kids who can play with EACH OTHER. And leave you two alone sometimes.

OMG, having a child and being pregnant sometimes makes me want to cry... I have zero energy today & spd is so painful.,, every time i sit down she needs me to get up for something else!!! God bless her, it isnt her fault but sometimes it is hard to get through the day without having having a total hormonal meltdown :(

Jelly my sisters husband was like that - it really upset her. She was like errr you do realise I'm pregnant and this wee one can't be sent back to the shop don't you? Some blokes just suffer from foot in mouth - sorry x

I think DH and I are both realising now J has got to a much easier age (22 months) that OMG we are going to be thrown right back into the thick of it and will likely descend into the pit of shit sex, no time, always tired, snapping at each other, fighting over dull domestic tasks for the next six months! At least we both realise it, know what is coming, love each other (and our babies) and recognise that we will come out of the other side and know that it is worth it. Last time we just wandered blindly into it and were shocked by just how very very very much having a baby changed EVERYTHING.

As for fiddling around with my bits - frankly if we're down there its purely for sex and that's time limited and position limited enough these days!!!! I didn't bother with the massage last time and won't be this time. 85% of women will get some sort of tear or episiotomy and I personally think its much more dictated by the baby's position, size and your size than a few weeks of massage. Has anyone done it and sworn by it?

It's like baby spinning, I know loads of folks that have done it but none for whom it has actually worked.

Actually a question on that - I can see why hands and knees is a great position for rotating a baby from back to back to belly to back - the spine is heaviest so should rotate outwards with gravity when you are on hands and knees. But forward inversions for shifting a baby out of breech.... I don't understand the logic. Given that the baby's head is heavier than its bum, how will inverting so that the top of my uterus is below the bottom of my uterus do anything other than keep the heavy baby's head stuck at the top of my uterus? Surely I'd just be better walking around and hope that gravity would turn them head down? I appreciate it can be useful to try to shift them if the bum has become engaged but given this wee one isn't engaged yet - forward inversions are going to be pointless aren't they? I should just go for a walk?

I've put on nearly 2 stone at 30+3. Less than with J and as I had a starting BMI of 22 I'm not worried, I was warned the less you weigh when you get preggers the more you will put on.

I've gained about 2 stone overall, but my weight has been at a standstill for the past 4-5 weeks I think, think baby is eating my dinner for me...

Stigz I don't have SPD so don't know the half of what you are going through, but regularly at bathtime these days Mummy is lying on the floor chatting half heartedly because I'm just so tired of being up and down and running around like a blue arsed fly picking stuff up all day including an 11kg toddler.

Second time I've found pregnancy easier psychologically as its not all new and your body has done it before so it's less worrying. Equally you just don't have the time to spend navel gazing and quizzing Dr Google and certainly I'm not daunted by any labour options anymore which means I'm much calmer than first time. Buuuuuut I'm getting to the point now where it is difficult to pick J up or have him sit on my knee to read stories, let alone carry him any distance when he announces he's tired. He's only wee and has only been walking a few months so I can't just refuse him or else we'd never go anywhere! But yeah waddling to town with a tot, a border terrier, a change bag and god forbid we get any shopping is becoming a mission!

yellow - I don't understand the inversion stuff either. The ex midwife sonographer I had the other week suggested it was all bullshit! Probably if they are going to turn, they'll turn on their own. If you do the inversion stuff then you'll say it was that, if you don't you'll say it was luck.

Mine did actually turn around for long enough for me to notice kicks under ribs for the first time, but it's definitely still turning back and forth. It's only at the 36 week scan that they'll get worried apparently. So, we'll wait and see where it is for that 5 minute time period.

Thanks yellow .. I totally know how u feel, im lucky that she is at the age she is now as i phsycally wouldnt be able to lift a toddler !! i know the exhaustion will only get worse once a newborn is added to the mix ... But atleast your body will be your own by that time, and all pregnancy aches & pains will be gone and ofcourse a wee glass of wine or two or three or four:) will be allowed to help you destress & unwind ... I so cant wait for that momment ....... When i can drink a full bottle of wine if i feel like it !!!

I've gained over 2 stone now but most people say I am all bump so it obviously doesn't show to them but it does to me, it's mostly on my bum to be honest but I generally just feel very heavy, my calfs are bigger for example so I think it's a a lot to do with increase in fluid and blood.

Growth scan this morning, wow she has plumped up quite a bit now and it's getting squashed in there. She still in same position transabdominal with head down. She weighs 4ib4oz now anyone else know what theirs weighs? It means she on track to be about 8lb.

SJH I wouldn't worry too much- I've put on ten pounds and I know 3lbs7 is the baby himself due to a growth scan last week. The MW said to completely ignore the scales and concentrate on eating healthily and eating when you feel hungry - the baby will take what it needs.

Yellow completely know what you mean about carrying a toddler. Ds not quite walking yet so really encouraging it at the moment so it's one less weight to carry.

yellow stigz and all you other ladies with little ones already, I honestly don't know how you do pregnancy and look after your LO.

I'm struggling looking after me, I can hardly carry a basket of washing into the garden because of back/ bump ache never mind a toddler.

It's making me think twice about having a second one... much to DH's relief I think!

London my BP has dropped to be quite low since getting pregnant and has got lower everytime I've had it checked, so just used this as an excuse for a bag of sea salt & balsamic vinegar kettlechips- nom nom nom.

I have put on about 6kg, about 13lb this pregnancy but I was overweight to start with so quite happy with that.

I've put on 2 stone as well and not weighed myself in weeks.

Thanks for the thoughts re BP. I was feeling rank yesterday and after some crisps at 10am it seemed to help. Mine is oddly worse in the morning / late afternoon. goats no idea if my BP is normally low as never really have it checked other than when preg.

I too find it hard being preg with ds. He wants to be carried a lot. And had been quite testing last few days but poor things life is pretty chaotic at the moment due to the builders. He keeps asking 'is this home?' Or 'when are we going home' when we arrive somewhere else. Last night it was 1.5 hours of putting him back to bed - it was exhausting. He fell asleep in the end!

I didn't bother with massage either time and had an episiotomy with 5lb 4 oz DD and not a scratch with 8lb 3 oz (and head circumference off the scale) DS. DD was a very fast labour and only 3 pushes, whereas DS was much more controlled.

And for those worried about induction, DS was induced and while it wasn't a walk in the park, I only had gas and air and no intervention. I'll be induced with this one as well and, while I'm not exactly looking forward to it (and am having mild daydreams about needing a nice ELCS for some other reason) it's just something that needs to be done and I wouldn't press for a CS instead of being induced unless there was another reason to have one.

I think it will be easier once the baby is born - mostly because I can drink coffee again and not carrying around this excess weight! Pregnancy tiredness is something else. Sleep deprivation another ball game...

I remember thinking that about people who had children already/were pregnant Binky - truth is, you just kind of cope. DS isn't walking yet, so I have a lot of lifting to do (he's 11kg already, my little chunk monster) but I keep telling myself - short term pain, long term gain....when my two are happily playing together in a couple of years time, as I drink tea and eat cake, and I'll have my pre-pregnancy body back and never have to be pregnant again, and they'll never squabble or fall out...Oh look, there's a unicorn talking to a flying pig...

I'm trying to do school work today - we go back in a fortnight and I've done nothing. I've realised that I don't give a toss about my job anymore. I'm sitting here in front of the laptop, constantly in need of a wee, aching pretty much all over, feeling a little bit sick because I'm getting kicked in the ribs and not in any way comfortable, just dreaming about lying down to read my book/have a nap.

I've got to get through 13 days of being enthusiastic in front of a new class. Ha. Fat chance.

Thanks goats & yellow. He told me when I was pregnant the first time he didn't enjoy babies but he at least had the decency to be excited then! DS had pretty bad colic last time so cried a lot, I think he's envisioning the same with this one. Oddly I am envisioning popping new baby in the sling and floating around after DS and just popping baby out for feeds/nappy changes, hmmm maybe I am being a bit optimistic?!

DS is pretty chilled out so I haven't found it too hard being pregnant, although his walking has definitely taken a step back now I can't just sling him on my back when he gets bored of walking! I have to leave the house with the buggy & the instant he sees it he thinks he's going in it and refuses to take even one step without a full on meltdown

I really need a new pair of shoes but I think my feet have got fatter as size 7's are too tight. If I buy a bigger pair now are they going to be falling off my feet come November? Its either that or live in flip flops until then!

shire - I'm dithering about that short term pain for long term gain. I don't really want to have just one kid, but we can't easily afford two, and I'm 40 already. I think we're pushing our luck with the one! But an only one means having to occupy it a lot of the time. Having said that I haven't enjoyed being pregnant, I can't wait for it to be over - not sure I could ever do it again. A friend of mine at the moment has a 9 month old, and is 3 and a half months pregnant at 41. Sounds dreadful, but they'll be growing up together and all the baby shit will be over in 2 years.

We really didn't think about having a second, as a big plan, as it took so long to get no1. However, once he was here and the fog of newborness started to lift, we both felt very sure of at least trying for a second (thinking that it may take a few years again). Erm...

We've had a lot of mixed reactions to having them close together, some positive, many bemused and too many just rude, I'm afraid. But we couldn't be more chuffed, though also quite frightened at the same time about coping and the upheaval.
However, when I really think about it, there is no perfect gap - each comes with its own set of pros/cons and at the end of the day, we will know no different.

Oh, if people were rude about it to us I'd just do what my friend is doing and say 'I'm 41'. That's all there is to it. No one elses business anyway.