Due March 2007 - No. 3

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Ahem - allow me....

Sassilils, I'm actually terrified of them doing a scan and saying "no you are not 14 weeks pg, your dates are all wrong, you are only 10 weeks pg". That would finish me off, truly it would, as I HATE pregnancy. But would be nice to know all is well.

Cor Blimey!! You lot can natter!! I have had so much trouble keeping up with the goings on on this thread. I hope eveyone is feeling well. We should all be in the 2nd trimester or am i getting dates wrong yet again!!!!

I had my scan last Friday which took about 90 seconds. Due 23 March which is later than i thought based on bump size. I had to ask on here how many weeks i was gone cus I'm such a pleb. But at least i have an EDD at last.

Have been really down lately so haven't felt like anyone would want to listen if i were to post but now I feel OK again today. Is there such a thing as ante natal depression cus i swear its not normal to be feeling like this. Also i a getting worried now that my boobs are not going to stop growing. i was a 34d to start with but i must be double that in the last 2 weeks alone!!!

Need to go back to the knickers debate because i am a strings girl but bursting out of them now. Need a good alternative that aren't bigs. Don't like anything over the bump really.

It's only been 20 months since last pg but i feel like a first timer. Probably because i didn't discover i was pg til 16 half weeks last time

14 weeks
EDD 23/3/07

Hello annaspanna, my fellow disorganised date keeper!! Ante natal depression already been a topic on here, definitely exists!! Hope you are feeling okay now.

edd also 23/03/07

Sassilils, honest to god that would be a dream come true, I would be turning cartwheels in the street. Fingers crossed have only ever had my dates put back though, gloom!

Hi annaspanner,

Congrats on the scan I'm tootally with you on feeling depressed. I then feel gulity for feeling depressed and it starts all over again, it's a vicious cycle! I think it is possible to have ante natal depression, I've been putting off visiting the doctor though. Trying to pick myself up. Are you sleeping okay?

I can recommend the cotton boxer style knickers from M&S, they fit under my bump and cover my lardy arse just nicely

Thanks anniediv, I might mention it to MW if happens again.

fingers crossed for you anniediv

p.s can anyone tell it's raining outside and we haven't had a customer for hours can't use MN at home, so make the most of having to come to work!

yes its peeing it down here too, was feeling a bit bored

Pennygaff, I'm soooo bored. hate being at work when it is dead, think about all the things I need to be doing at home.

Hi folks, hope everyone is well
Nearly the weekend, yay!

Saw my obstetrician this week, clinic was running late so we had to wait an hour. Luckily DS was reasonable about the wait although he got upset when my BP was checked

Anna - you need maternity thongs JoJoMaman do them I think

Hi everyone!

Only seem to be managing to get on every 3 days: so bloody knackered all the time. Here goes my catch-up:

Onilly: thanks for the birthday wishes - it was yesterday (I was 31). Went to London Zoo with my Mum. Nearly fainted and had to get a cab home, but still glad I went. Better than sitting at home with my head over the bog all day.

Eidsvold: so sorry for your loss. Hope you're coping ok with your DH away.

DollyP: I hope your Dad is improving. Was it an enormous shock? btw, I'd love to meet on Thursday week . What sort of time is good for you?

Also: I LOVE red hair - especially on men actually; welcome kiwibella; lol at kittywits' hobbit feet; annaspanna - if youve had enough of thongs M&S do nice little knickers that just sit below your tum.

Sorry if I missed anyone out! Hi to everyone else!

16+5 (LO kicking away)

annaspanna,there have been a few threads on feeling depressed about ante-natal depression(a couple of them started by me).it always makes me feel better reading this thread as pregnancy books tend to make out u should be glowing and content but on here u get to hear the truth about pregnancy

fatfox,i live in a housing association house which is very nice and i am always polite to the nice ladies who work in the office if i have to go in about anything

Divastrop: that's so true. In fact, my BF was all glowing through her PG, and I've felt really cheated that I look and feel like crap. In fact, I've had to give up a lot of work cause I'm too tired to cope, so I'm broke as well!

It helps so much to know that this is actually relatively normal. Anyone I mention it to outside pregnancy-world says 'you'll get your glow soon' or 'you'll be feeling great in no time'. I'm in my body, and I don't think I will. It's just obviously how my body responds to pregnancy.

One woman even implied that my approach to it was all wrong, as if I was only feeling/being sick because of my negative attitude!

I think that if I can just accept that I'm going to feel like crap for the next 5/6 months - and not keep hanging on for the phantom glow - I'll be able to handle it alot better.

Sorry for rant. Don't know where that came from really. Feel all angry now.

Saw the MW yesterday. Turns out the hospital gave me back the form they use for the chromosome testing so they haven't done it. MW was furious (with hosp, not with me). She's taken more blood but says it won't be so accurate because it's later. Really useful when I don't like the thought of an amnio and I'm 43.

She listened in and we could hear a heartbeat . She had warned me it might be too early. Apparently the top of my womb is only just under my belly button... no wonder nothing will do up!

She asked me where I wanted to have the baby and said did I want it at home... I was really shocked. Reading some of the threads under Childbirth it does seem to be the new trend for MWs to suggest. I hadn't ever considered it because when I had my others you just weren't allowed to be anywhere other than hospital. I said I thought I was high risk but apparently I'm not. DH not happy at the idea because of the mess, and because if he could be elsewhere he would be. He "doesn't like that bit". ..and I do?!! He said could I ask for a CS so he wouldn't have to be there..... (If I have to be there he can bl**dy be there too) MEN!!

14+4

anniediv - I can quite believe you have to wait that long. Last time round I tried to make a booking in appointment (the one you need to do before they can make an appointment for a 12 week scan and was told there were no appointments available for 8 weeks! Had to make a huge fuss about how that was going to mean that it was too late to organise a scan to actually get seen before that. To no avail as it turned out, since I m/c the day before the scan was due.

That was only last year, and they've evidently solved the problem now by doing away with the 12 week scans here! Apart from booking in you don't get to see the midwife until 26 weeks now. Then at 30, 34, 38 weeks, and weekly after that.

Evenhope, do think about a home birth, I'm going for another one, the last one was really fab. My DP didn't like the idea at first but really came round to it and was glad he didn't have to do any hospital visits

Lunar, that's really crap, we've got it good here in comparison, poor you.

hellooo - I think I have calmed down now. Only thing is I have been sooo busy at work today I have not been able to phone around to sort this screeing / amnio out. Have to be for next weeks crisis!

Reading back I sound like an elitist cow going on about NHS / taxpayer, honestly I am not like that, just bitterly disappointed at the service really.

FatFox - I have dyed my hair auburn / red since I was 16.... I do love the colouring. I have such a hang up because my best friend (still BF today) was "carrot top" at school and I always ended up in fights / detention defending her. Used to drive me crazy. As a result I have it fixed in my mind that all redheaded kids get bullied, which you are right is not true these days...I hope so anyway, I can see me in the play ground whacking the bullies over the head coz they are teasing my kiddo! By the way, its amazing how she turns heads now.... she has more fun than a blonde!

Well - another week over and out ladies... what does the next week hold ?

Anna & Boo - shame man platitudes dont help and judgemental old cows dont either. Hang with us, we'll all get through in our weird and wobbly way!
Have a good weekend.

onilly,my ds1 doesnt get teased about his hair colour,in fact i dont think there is any bullying in their school atall,but i remember in my day(!)kids with red hair got called all sorts.

lunar,i cant believe u dont see a midwife till 26 weeks,thats terrible.in my 3rd pg my blood pressure shot up at 20 weeks,luckily it went down again(till week 34) but it culd have been dangerous if it hadnt .i had my booking in at 7 weeks,a scan at 12 weeks and will see the mw every 4 weeks till week 28 then its every 2 weeks!
it sound like they r putting womens'(not to mention babies')lives at risk where ur.

Onilly - totally with you on the tax - I pay top rate too, have never been really ill and the fecking NHS lets me down every time. It does make me mad actually, that when I think of all the £thousands I've paid in tax over years, I have to go private to get a decent ante natal test done. My principles believe in the NHS, but it always fails me.

anyway..life's too short for ranting....

Onilly, you can be friends with me now too, and defend me when I get bullied on MN

Its funny what you said about red heads having fun - men often flirt with me - I think a surprising number of men have a secret fetish about size 16 middle aged ginger women with pot bellies

Hi Diva - which HA are you with? I've worked for HA's for about 16 years now - funny though, I wouldn't want to work for a council as I think council staff get even more stress than us (sue you will agree Sassi?). At least we don't have local ward councillors on our back anyway

Anna - please do stay on here, you're not the only one who's depressed. A lot of us have had some really low moments recently and have been very emotional, so stick with us Hun - we'll try and cheer you if poss

Evenhope - your post made me laugh - sorry it wasn't meant to Your DP was there at conception I agree he should see the thing through to the messy and rather bloody end

Hey, I wish someone would suggest I have a home birth (a MW I mean) - I would jump at the chance.
Kitty - is your homebirth film on line anywhere? I really want to do it and instinctively feel it would be the right thing to do this time (have had two straightforward vaginal births) but lack the courage of my convictions on this one - home births seem mysterious to me somehow - like a language I haven't learnt to speak

and another thing .... did you know women in many other countries get monthly scans and check ups. My Lebanese and European Mum friends are really shocked that we get seen so infrequenly in the UK when we're PG. I lost my last baby at 8 weeks and when I got booked in at 10 weeks, they refused to let me have a scan to see if this one was OK

Fatfox, Lunar, Evenhope, I think I am getting back onto my NHS SoapBox again - oh dear... what a crock hey ? I cant believe that you had to go through that.... geez, I do love England, but some things are so broken..

I have had it in the earhole..DH and my mum have just had "a go" at me and told me to relax... seems like DH is now rattled after "oldbag Midwife" has had her say. Both mum and DH think I am being far to zealous in my approach on my erm...chromosomal abnormalities... DH and mum petrified at a miscarriage through amnio.. I think I will just need to think about it over the weekend. Seriously wise MNetters any advice from you guys helps!

Thanks Diva, that helps my fear on bullying..

urg, I can smell burning - that would be the second dinner this week I best be off

Thank you so much everyone for your thoughts and kind messages. It really means a lot to me. Glad to report that my dad is a bit better . He is up and about (mobility not affected) and can speak a bit, although he can't think of the words most of the time. He also sounds as if he's had about 15 pints, acc my mum, as what little he can say is very slurred! Still, at least he is getting better.

Sorry I can't stay on long but not feeling great again. Hope all the girls who are feeling down stick around - I think pregnancy is often presented as a time when everything is tip top and the reality just isn't like this for everyone. If we all stick around, those of us who are feeling great can cheer up people who are finding it tough. I have laughed a lot this week about farting, erotic dreams, exploding clothes etc which has helped me enormously.

Hope everyone has a great weekend and look forward to chatting some more next week when (I hope) I'll be perky again. Take care and love to all XXXX