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Just Shagging Grads Thread 10 - Roll Up, Roll Up all you graduated Viroids!!!

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cookielove · 13/07/2014 19:23

Welcome, welcome, welcome to the 10th grads thread...celebrating the success of Just Shagging in getting us viroids upduffed Grin

For those that don't know, a 'viroid' is from the original JSing thread 1, where someone was trying to type ladies (in reference to all the JSing ladies), but their phone decided to call us all viroids instead!

The name stuck and we've been the JSing viroids ever since.

There is a stats thread here but its a zombie thread so enter at your own risk....... eeeeek

The thread we have graduated from is here in its 26th outing!

There is also a Just Mumming thread in postnatal here once your babies come along, or to keep up with the graduated graduates!

There is also a secret facebook group, if you want to join, Pm me!

So, roll call below please, viroids! Smile

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wilmabedrock · 19/07/2014 16:56

Musical mobiles or similar can be useful for settling to sleep.

wilmabedrock · 19/07/2014 16:58

Haha epic x-posts pis!

Pisghetti · 19/07/2014 17:04

Haha great minds Grin

Oh yes he loved the bouncy chair! And those bath things they lie on to free up your hands - most life changing fiver I've spent.

RPopz · 19/07/2014 17:23

Thanks ladies. Am keen to keep things to a minimum - tiny house and short term usage and all that! And I have expensive taste....

wilmabedrock · 19/07/2014 17:53

Ha it's fine having expensive taste for furniture etc but really don't bother for other things or you'll kick yourself 6 months later. Except breastpumps. I intend to get a ridiculously priced one this time as my friend said it made her life a million times easier.

ZylaB · 19/07/2014 18:04

Do we have any breast pump recommendations?

ohfourfoxache · 19/07/2014 18:16

Useful information under mn reviews with lots of different recommendations Zyla - there are also quite a few good reviews of the Philips Avent across t'internet (this is the one I'm considering)

Is it worth buying a breast pump in advance, or is it better to wait and see if you can actually BF first?

I popped in to the Next sale today - came out with babygrows Blush This was after going for a scan - we've got a heartbeat! Grin

RPopz · 19/07/2014 18:18

I was wondering same about bottles and sterilisers Fox - I want to bf so theoretically don't need them but just in case things don't go to plan....

RPopz · 19/07/2014 18:19

Hooray for heartbeat!! How many weeks are you now? X

ZylaB · 19/07/2014 18:21

Yay fox hoping we see the same on wed :)

ohfourfoxache · 19/07/2014 18:37

Blush thank you!

I'm 6+4 by dates, but 5+5 by crown rump length. So according to my GP (who I saw last night) I should always go by dates as long as they're accurate (they most definitely are!) but everything I've heard up to that point is to trust measurements Confused

Zyla it's exciting! What time is your scan love? X

FurryScoob · 19/07/2014 18:41

Yay for a heartbeat fox it would be rude not to buy stuff to celebrate!

I have a boob question too for you experts. If you breast feed can you express & bottle feed as well? May sound a stupid question but my midwife says you should exclusively breastfeed & bottles cause confusion to the baby but most people I know express & let DP's bottle feed after a few weeks so they can get a few hours sleep. Confused

wilmabedrock · 19/07/2014 18:47

Yay Fox brilliant news!

I bought a pump beforehand but probably didn't realise that it was possible that I may not be able to bf Hmm . I think it's pretty rare though. Most people seem to give up through lack of support/poor advice/not realising it might be difficult. If you CAN get the right support then the majority of people can bf but unfortunately that support can be hard to come by. Lots of HV really don't know their stuff. Don't think I used my pump for first 3 weeks though so you def have a little time if you'd rather wait and see. I had a Philips Avent one and it was good although I think became less efficient with continued use. I can't remember the name of the one my friend has but I'll ask her. Even if you bf popz, you still may want bottles and steriliser as it's pretty hard work doing all feeds yourself and it pretty much means you can't leave baby for first 6 months. Nice if sometimes Mr Popz can give a feed if you're sleeping. Although obviously plenty people do it without expressing. I say there's no rush as you can order stuff online after baby comes if necessary.

ohfourfoxache · 19/07/2014 18:52

Grin I love your reasoning Furry! DH rolled his eyes, but melted a bit when he saw the tiny babygrow that says "my daddy smiles when I giggle"!

wilmabedrock · 19/07/2014 18:55

Scoob lots of HV will quote the nipple confusion theory at you but as far as I know there is no actual evidence for it. I think the general rule is that it's a good idea to establish bf first, so get latch right and ensure baby is feeding properly and then after that introduce a bottle. However there is a bit of an unproved theory that if you don't introduce bottle within first 6 weeks (approx) then it becomes more difficult and baby may refuse to take it. (obv not case for everyone but I know quite a few who this happened to). They also advise that you give bottle regularly - every 3 days minimum (or something like that) to reduce likelihood of refusal. But that was a long way of saying it's totally possible. Also a lot of people do mixed feeding so give some breastmilk and some formula.

ohfourfoxache · 19/07/2014 18:56

I think I'm preparing myself for an onslaught from my mother tbh wilma - she didn't have support and DSis and I were bottle fed. I'm on antidepressants (the ones I'm on now are ok for BF) but as soon as I suggested that I might want to BF the reaction was a prickly "you don't have to - we're close regardless" Confused So this is probably why I'm concerned about not being able to Blush

It really is weird how so many women in their 50's and 60's that I've come across seem to be pretty anti BFConfused

FurryScoob · 19/07/2014 19:00

Thank you wil I'm so glad some of you have done all this before!
There seems to be a lot that HV advise & recommend but in reality nobody takes any notice & get on with things in their own way.

Pisghetti · 19/07/2014 19:10

I had one of those pumps that look like a retro bike horn. Used to drive me to tears. I'd definitely splash out this time (or hire a hospital grade one)

That's fab fox ! Was it a private scan?

wilmabedrock · 19/07/2014 19:13

Totally fox. I naively just assumed most people bf and thought that's just what you did as my mum had. Don't even really think I 'chose' to do it as such, just did it. It was only afterwards I realised there was this massive divide and controversy surrounding it. My MIL (who I love and is great) never bf and when she was staying with us to help out kept coming out with 'she can't be hungry again', 'would you not just give her a bottle' which is not helpful when you're struggling and don't really know what you're doing. Although my mum is the total opposite and refers to formula as 'that horrible stuff' which didn't make me feel good on the occasions MiniWil had it. It's a bloody minefield I tell you and every bugger has an opinion on it. Even people without kids will tell you what you're doing wrong. We had house guests when baby was about 5 weeks and I didn't know the female (new wife of male friend). She proceeded to give me a lecture about how I should get baby to sleep so that she didn't disturb our dinner and it was easy to establish good sleeping if you followed a routine like her friend (presume gina ford). Of course she didn't actually have children herself or any experience of looking after babies. She is due her first very soon. I hope the 'routine' works for her and doesn't disturb all the dinner parties she's planning Grin .

wilmabedrock · 19/07/2014 19:14

I should learn to use paragraphs Blush .

RPopz · 19/07/2014 19:18

The hv gave me that nipple confusion tosh too. I want to bf - but a bit of freedom would be good too! So want to get bottles just in case.... but which bloody ones!?

ZylaB · 19/07/2014 19:19

Hehe wil I'm sure she won't be entertaining for quite a while! but sounds a bit like one of those who'll say she could have! but chose not to, or something :)

fox I'm due at the hospital for 9am, but if it's like last time I'll be there for 4 and a half hours seeing everyone, so the scan will be at some point during that, hopefully near the start.

I'm desperate for it to be august, I'm going part time and want nap times! :)

Pisghetti · 19/07/2014 19:20

Obviously I had DS ages ago and things change but the lack of knowledge about breastfeeding amongst MW/GP/HV was astonishing. I'd done a lot of reading so I was expecting my periods not to come back straight away, for DS's nappies to have wet, yellow, sweet scented poos and for his weight to not necessarily follow the charts (derived on data from bottle fed babies) but all these things were commented on and questioned as if unexpected and I felt bullied into bottle feeding at four months as he was classed as a 'failure to thrive' (what a foul term). He was happy, fed on demand and progressing normally in all ways bar weight. I probably wouldn't be such a walkover now!

ZylaB · 19/07/2014 19:21

And I agree rpopz

I want to bf too, but it'd be lovely for DH to give a bottle sometimes, for him as well as me, so think I'd be looking for the same.

JuniDD · 19/07/2014 19:24

Congrats fox. I always enjoyed a bit of a shopathon after the scans.

I'd been thinking baby should have a mobile & a bouncy chair so great minds etc. Will add bath stand-thing to the list too.

I told my mum when I saw her that she's to let me do things my way (she refers to the baby as "our baby") but she agreed she would help with advice if I was at the end of my tether. I also told her some of the shit MrJuni was coming out with the other day and she basically said he could FOTTFSOF and we would raise the baby. Hahah! Didn't tell him about that conversation, obviously Wink.

rpopz, I can't advise on the bottles but believe there are lots of different teats and it's quite trial & error to get one that suits the baby. Just don't stockpile!