November 2014- Thread 6- Pink, blue or yellow? 20 week scans coming up for the rainbow collective

[Alita7]

Wow this makes me feel so far along! Nearly halfway!

Had a look at prams over the weekend and liked the versa. But I haven't tried folding it up yet. It looked easy on a YouTube video but I'll try in the shop sometime if you found it difficult, moggle.

Yes all the baby stuff gets overwhelming. Have no clue at all yet what to get. I have a list that just keeps getting bigger. At first I think I don't need a certain item, then I read how loads of mums think its worth getting it, so it goes on the list. Then I want to just get the cheapest one, until I read that this other more expensive one is way better or makes life so much easier and then think I should get that. Then I get exasperated by all the stuff we need to get and the cost of it all and then just give up. I haven't bought a single thing yet this way!

I've had an awful cold for over a week now. Normally colds to away after three days but this one just sticks around. Was gagging yesterday because of slime hitting the back of my throat. I'm just feeling so rough.

But I have also started to feel more movement this week. I can now feel the baby kick regularly. It's so amazing! And my boyfriend even felt it yesterday when he put his hand on my belly. Such a lovely moment.

18+5 now and more than a week to go till the scan!

Good luck with the scan petal!

Petal - good luck at scan and looking forward to hearing your news!

Good luck to all other scanees this week....

Curses on anterior placenta - still can only feel flutters and no kicks. Trying to keep calm and not panic about it but wishing DP and DD could feel it. i think it might make it more "real' for them too.

DP and I had HUGE argument last night - with awful angry words and uncalled-for insults on both sides. Feeling really low about it today and slightly panicked. In the heat of it both of us said we regretted this pregnancy which is now playing on my mind and i dont know how we can "take that back." The row was mainly over lack of progress in getting our flat / life sorted ready for this baby. He is so chilled abut it whereas it is stressing me out to the max. We are now accumulating baby stuff - a swing, baby seat, bags of clothes, bags and bags and bags of nappies, blankets / sheets, slings and carriers, our baby hammock / amby nest and it all has to "rest" in the corner of our small living room until the nursery is ready. he keeps saying "it will get done" but no steps have been taken to get us nearer to that point. he woudl be happy living like this forever but i cant function and think f anything else. he doesnt get "nesting" and thinks it is irrational (even though my pal spoke to him about it yesterday and backed up what i was saying).

pants.

good luck everyone with scans :)

movement is getting more forceful and noticeable and you could see my belly move where he was kicking yesterday :D

I hope everyone's doing ok! its my first day of placement and I'm exhausted :p You working women are amazing!

Good luck to all scanee's this week.

Have had a mad weekend (went to the cricket) and am away next weekend as well. But need to message sister and BIL to see when they can help with heavy furniture moving so we can start on the nursery. Have also returned from the cricket with what is either very patchy sun-burn or a reaction to sun/heat/sun cream. So need to pop to Boots for some higher factor stuff for this weekend.

Then there's the fun of DH wanting to go to Paris when I'm 35 weeks (and it has to be then because it's a friends Licensing in his new job). Have told him I'm not deciding on anything until I've spoken to ME.

Am feeling movements definitely now. I too can't wait for DH to feel them. Properly starting to show as well. If we get a colder spell it'll have to be the maternity trousers now.

Petal, good luck with your scan! Fingers crossed for you

weeonion, I don't know for sure but think I might have an anterior placenta too as still not a single flutter of movement. Sorry to hear about your row too. Maybe don't think about it in terms of 'taking it back' - it seems to me like the 'regret' is more likely to be anxiety than real regret maybe? In which case, it might help to sit down and have a serious discussion about your worries, including all the practicalities he's ignoring at the moment. You might find that he's thought it out a bit better than it seems and maybe it will help both of you to feel a bit more secure? Everything always seems worse when you're angry. Hugs and for you.

blamber, hope you feel better soon! If you're having phlegmy problems, try a bowl of steaming water with a few drops of eucalyptus essential oil in (literally 2 drops should be enough). Stick a towel over your head and the bowl and breathe in the steam from about an arm's length away from the water. That should help clear your sinuses and settle the mucus in your lungs (yum).

Miskate, glad that was sorted easily!

Oh, I forgot to mention. Seems a silly thing I know, but does anyone know if the 'roughly 2 stone' NHS weight gain thing is an average weight gain or a recommended one? It doesn't seem to specify this anywhere that I can see

re weight again... i weighed myself last week (i don't have scales so used a friends) only gained 4 lbs... but i probably lost alot from sickness.

weeonion - sympathy, that's not nice. I have to say I can see where you're coming from - that pile of stuff does not sort itself.

I had a moment of extreme rage last night while stacking the dishwasher after dinner. I had been working long long hours all last week, and then while DH and I had a nice weekend together visiting family, it involved a lot of driving on both our parts. Then I cooked dinner while he bathed DD and put her to bed, then I had to settle her as she was upset, and then we ate dinner and watched a show. So I'd say we were more or less 'equally tired', and yet it is always
always
always
me who tidies up after dinner. I have started to realise this. He just does not get the concept of sorting/cleaning as you go and last night this really irritated me (possibly also because his mum had commented on this trait over the weekend so I felt somewhat justified in my annoyance). Like, I used to be shit and disorganised too, and I get that being a grown-up about stuff is boring...but...but...otherwise the family ends up living in a chaotic mess, you know?

We didn't have an argument but I'm constantly wondering how to get him to just bloody well pick up after himself. He is great at doing major clear-outs every once in a while but these wouldn't be so necessary if he just picked up after himself more! No-one could fault his commitment to our little one and the amount of time he puts into looking after her and being with her, but part of parenting is also about managing a household so that everyone can live in some kind of peace.

All of which was to say: I get where you're coming from. But I'm sure that deep down neither of you regret having this baby at all.

blamber, I know what you mean about getting pissed off with the sheer amount of Stuff you feel you need to get! There really is no right answer but definitely err on the side of minimalism where you can. You might find that people will give you loads of stuff once the baby is actually here. I made an Excel of all the stuff we needed - it was pared down but still there were lots of things (in our case: talcum powder, Johnson's baby lotion, steriliser) that were a total waste of money.

I hope everyone had a lovely weekend, I'm looking forward to hearing more scan news this week - very exciting. Can't wait for mine, and for the half-way mark. It seems like most people on the thread are a far way ahead.

Still no movement here either, trying be be patient but it's bloomin difficult!

Weeonion- sorry about your arguement, things like that can make you feel so rubbish. I totally know where you're coming from with concerns about getting your flat ready. We're in a one bedroom flat, and don't plan on moving until the baby in 1+. I'm completely happy with the decision not to move before birth (although I think some people think we're crazy) but feel the need to clear out, making space for baby stuff. I don't feel like I want to start buying things until this has been done. I was getting slightly frustrated at DP for not clearing stuff out (okay I was nagging) and was so pleased to find that when I was studying at the weekend he got rid of a whole load of stuff. I know he'd happily live just piling more stuff up, but I would go mad. Also, I want there to be somewhere special for all the babies bits and bobs. You'll get it sorted, but I know what it's like when you're already a little stressed, how mess etc can make everything seem so out of control! Sounds like you've got a fab load of baby stuff already though.

I also weighed myself this week (something I very rarely do) and was surprised I'd not put on more weight. Definitely seem to be expanding at a faster rate now.

Really struggling with hayfever or a cold or both at the moment. My nose feels permanently stuffy and I hate that feeling that I can't breathe properly. It's actually unbearable and had me wide away at 3am. Tried olbas oil, vicks inhaler, Loratadine to no avail. Bought some Beconase nasal spray today and the ironically named 'happynose' to see if that helps. I'm going to go mad if this doesn't get better soon. Each time I develop an annoying pregnancy symptom, I think it can't get worse but it does..... argh!!

We're off to a mothercare baby event on Thursday. I've heard they normally have a 10% discount so hoping to get our pram. We've decided to go for the Silver Cross Pioneer.

Afternoon :-)

Just quickly read through what Ive missed. I found myself laughing at some of your comments because it reassured me that my hormones and mad thoughts/ worries are perfectly normal.

Twiglet I may try that aloe Vera because I got bitten yesterday evening and I never normally get bites! And I'm also very very itchy...all of a sudden they feel really heavy and full too!! Luckily I'm still off work with hyperemesis so I can scratch away hahaha

I had my first proper hormonal break down yesterday in the shop trying on clothes. Nothing fit because I've just got a big bump and am tiny every where else and so I burst into tears, grabbed my parter and left the shop before I burst in tears. Took me ages to calm down...now I'm laughing at how ridiculous I was!!!...hormones!!

We bought out first baby bits this weekend. Managed to get a brand new gorgeous white Moses basket and rocking stand, white cot, mattress and new bedding, fisher price jungle mobile and jel bath seat for £60 on gumtree. So happy :-)

Miskate - my school will also be closed so my midwife told me to ring her at 20 weeks and she will leave the form at the desk to collect.

Annoyed because I had test results for my group b strep and they came back on Thursday and no doctor has looked at them yet grrr!! Have to wait until tomorrow now....

Didn't see your post onion!

Big big hugs! I know it's horrible that it's been said but a couple of times when super angry at dp I've thought that I was mental to have a baby with him but then I remember how I love my little man and feel horribly guilty. But it really is an in the moment thing and it doesn't mean anything other than you're stressed! We also have lots of things to sort before he comes and it makes things much more stressful with the deadline of a birth! Big hugs and I hope you make up properly soon xx

Do placentas move?
As in, I am sure that a few weeks ago I was feeling tickley/rolling sensations and some taps and in the last 3 weeks I haven't really felt anything.
Some people at this point seem to be feeling quite distinctive kicks!
I'm 20w and 3 days and my scan is on Friday but I am having a massive (hopefully) irrational terror that all is not well.
I don't have a Doppler but I have Tiny Beats app on my phone and in weeks 18 and 19 I found heartbeat within a few minutes but last night and today I don't seem to be able to find it.
Am tempted to rush out to Mothercare to buy a Doppler immediately but equally trying very hard to be rational and not 'rise' to my panic.
Is it possible that placenta has just moved?
Should I call the midwife who will no doubt tell me this is what happens when people use stupid phone apps to try to monitor a baby!!
Argh.
My fear about this child's well-being is literally never going to end for the rest of my life - it's a bit of an overwhelming thought...
I've really worried myself now!

Elliekins - I'm 20+3 too and I've still not had anything more distinct than vague churning feelings in my lower abdomen. I'm discerning a bit more of a pattern but there's been nothing startling.

Tigsy - we've gone for the Pioneer too - what colour are you going for?

Ellie don't worry! Placentas can move, but this early on its normal to feel things and then the feelings stop again. And it's way too early for that phone app to work properly. Baby has perhaps moved to a different location so you can't feel and hear it. Just wait till Friday and I'm sure everything's fine!

I know what you mean about the worry. First there was worry to conceive, then there was the worry of the first trimester, then this trimester brings al kinds of new issues. At first I thought it would get easier but I've now realised it probably gets worse! On the other hand, it is pretty amazing to have something so important to love and worry about.

Oh Godddd, playing roulette at the moment with vomiting - have twice, feel like I might again but not 100% sure it will come to anything so not dashing for bathroom yet. Hot office = nausea nightmare! Only 20 minutes 'til freedom, though still have 3 horses to sort out this evening. Bleh. Bit concerned as am now back down to just below my pre-pregnancy weight and the nausea seems to have made a real return. Might give it another 48 hours and if it doesn't go away might see about some anti-vom medication. Argh!

Ellie, definitely don't panic. A phone app will really struggle at this point just on sensitivity - even a MW's Doppler can struggle right up to 22 weeks, let alone the tiny microphone in a phone that will be 'taking in' the sounds through your abdomen!

Do you think it's possible that I can feel where Bean is even if I can't feel movement? Had it the other day when driving and now again sitting at my desk - feels like there's a large, hard lump sitting just below my ribs on the right hand side. Quite uncomfortable but seems quite high up to be baby at this point?

Twiglet - poor you! Good that you are managing to work through it though!! Urgh and the heat is unbearable...me and DP are hoping to do a summer break but I really don't think I'm going to cope with anything above 20'c. Think I'm similar to you, being sick few times a day but I'm taking ondansatron and it really helps :-) I'm still 1 stone under my pre pregnancy weight.

Ellie - yes I agree don't panic. I was pretty confident I could feel 'something' for about 2 weeks and ive not felt a thing for 2 weeks now. The midwife reassured me that even though I'm skin and bone, it could be more like 22-23'weeks before I feel baby. I have that app too and I've not picked up anything yet...think it's far too early! Sure your baby is happy and healthy hiding away in your tummy! :-)

Thanks Alita - going to try and be overly nice and non hormonal tonight when DP gets home...I'm attempting to cook him mini roast to make up for it. It's the first time I've properly entered the kitchen in 3 months so fingers crossed I don't I can last without being sick.

Evening all. Been away for the weekend and mad busy with reports and other work stuff so not checked in here. Hope all those with traumas are feeling better today - hay fever is rubbish - I rang midwife and she said Piriton so I've been having some of that but it does knock you out a bit - at least I'm sleeping through! Sorry to hear about the vomiting twiglet - hope it settles.

Those with movement concerns, glad it's not just me - io had lots of definite fluttering starting at 15 1/2 weeks - now 18+5 and nothing that feels like that for the last 2 weeks - have also convinced myself that when we go for scan in 10 days something will be wrong. DP really doesn't want me to get a Doppler but I nearly caved today. Especially as generally feeling better and have only put on 4 lbs although I do have a bump now. Also loathe to buy anything or book antenatal classes as I don't want to jinx it, which is totally irrational too. Arghh, the worry never stops... Somebody slap me!

In a TMI kind of question, anyone else having discharge issues? Lots of it I.e. I wear a panty liner as I was am a compulsive knicker checker due to previous mc and sometimes have wet patch on knickers through panty liner. Non nlood, no smell, no funny colours. Just a slight wet patch. Or is it just me?

Thanks ladies, all ok at the scan, could see and measure everything and she thinks it is..... A boy!
So now we'll get the 'ooh lovely, one of each' c

Whoops!

....comments!

I am in shock, everyone has been telling me another girl because I've been so poorly and I think I convinced myself it was. Was giggling all the way home in shock.
I know it could have gone either way, I really don't mind, in my head I wasn't expecting it!
DH hasn't stopped grinning and my dad is very happy as I'm one of two girls so hopefully the sonographer (think that's a word!) was correct!
Haven't got a clue about boys names, something to add to the to-do list :-)

Hope everyone's had a good day :-)
Hope you make up weeonion

Congrats Petal I'm supposedly having a boy too!

A taxi driver asked me what i was having today and when I said a boy "AH! A BOY! HE WILL BE HEAD OF THE HOUSE! HE WILL DO ALL THE WORK FOR YOU IN THE GARDEN!" (He was african and very enthusiastic about boys, obviously.)

FTMK That is one of the myriad of new body things I've noticed recently. That and ridiculously hot hands and feet, a sudden mass of cellulite on my arse and thighs, and conical nipples which are turning a startling magenta.

If it weren't for DH's appreciative noises I think I'd be feeling fairly grotty, tbh.

Congrats guys! I'm pretty sure it's usually only girls they get wrong, I could see a clear willy on mine so I'd be worried if he was actually a girl!! So I think it's pretty close to definite if you're told boy!

Anna, that made me laugh! Did you say, 'Yes, he will also be sent up the chimneys and down the mines.'?!

FTMK I have that too. Not very pleasant but think it's pretty normal. Goes with the hideously itchy nips and the constant bloat and/or trapped wind I still can't seem to get rid of.

Congratulations on your DS, Petal!

I am now getting the delightful 'D' part of the first trimester D&V as well as the vomiting. Joy.

Baby, glad the meds are helping you Some days I feel completely fine, most days in fact, and others I feel horrid again! More good than bad now though, so I'm keeping everything crossed that it will stay an intermittant problem, which I can deal with a lot better than the constant nausea from before.

Just about to get the Doppler out and listen to Bean for a while

Loving all the boy/girl news...can't wait to find out although only 18 weeks tomorrow so a bit behind some of you guys.
Haven't bought anything yet, I'm itching to get all DDs baby stuff out of vacuum packed bags in wardrobe but it would be pointless til we know the sex. Other than some new sleep suits which I won't be able to resist we should have most stuff we need anyway.
Hugs to all those feeling pants...I've still got this hideous chesty cough and feeling rubbish...living off hot ginger beer which is only thing soothing it at mo!
Have felt some movements but think its so hit and miss at the mo, some days a few and some days nothing. It is nice to start feeling a bit tho...don't worry those who haven't tho...it will happen soon